Where now for Smith?

winkveron · Post by **winkveron** » 12 Dec 2010, 07:43

Great atmosphere for the fight and I was gutted he didn't win. Good performance by DeGale to be fair. Maybe Smigga will come on here himself when he's had a rest and decide where he goes next.

What do you guys think will be his next move?

Has he won the Lonsdale belt outright?

If not, I'm sure that'd be his aim now.

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 12 Dec 2010, 07:57

Wait for Degale to move on and then reclaim British title

winkveron · Post by **winkveron** » 12 Dec 2010, 07:57

lefthook82 wrote:Wait for Degale to move on and then reclaim British title

Do you think that's his limit now? Or maybe a Euro belt?

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 12 Dec 2010, 08:03

I can't see DeGale holding onto that title for too long and going through the process of mandatories etc etc.

Smith & Anderson would be a good match or maybe Groves, both would be interesting.

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 12 Dec 2010, 08:05

@wink

I've always thought that was his limit. Degale should win lonsdale and then vacate and move on

For a 30 fight career his record has nothing on it, nothing to give me the impresion that he could be above domestic class

I think he should fight Keny Anderson next. I think Groves beats him

Bleak · Post by **Bleak** » 12 Dec 2010, 08:30

How many more British title wins did does he need to win it outright?

hurlock · Post by **hurlock** » 12 Dec 2010, 08:31

look at anderson he was a career 81kg amateur. even degale boxed up at l.heavy as a junior

& groves a s. middleweight from 15 years old.smith was a 71kg & not that big when he won his first aba title, ive had argument's with the man himself about what weight he should be.he's sparked a few heavy guy's but that was the likes of steve timms... when he boxed quigley he was fighting a man expierianced of fighting good or better lump's & was strong himself & he forced smith back & quigley is small for the weight & is about the same stamp if not bigger. in smith's next fight he thought a gun shy dodson & was extremely courageous in coming through what he did & winning well, despite all this & smith being a better class his strength's lie in the weight below. macklin & barker could both do 12st & fall at the same hurdle.
i felt sick watching smith get beat like that, i didnt want degale to be that good & he made it look easy & i think strengh was the main factor, i hope smigga can raise his head up take it on the chin & move on, he's a bright lad & will allway's succeed.

winkveron · Post by **winkveron** » 12 Dec 2010, 09:05

Bleak wrote:How many more British title wins did does he need to win it outright?

I think 1. Maybe someone else can confirm this 'cause I'm not sure.

stevek3lly · Post by **stevek3lly** » 12 Dec 2010, 09:53

I too was gutted last night, but I think that he should take a couple of months off and then look to get back on the title trail. Fights against Quigley, Anderson or Groves (it he wimps out fighting Degale now) and then we will see him back.

I hope he doesn't give in as the support he brings is amazing for the sport. Degale may have been batter last night, but still no one likes him.

bigjack · Post by **bigjack** » 12 Dec 2010, 10:00

stevek3lly wrote:I too was gutted last night, but I think that he should take a couple of months off and then look to get back on the title trail. Fights against Quigley, Anderson or Groves (it he wimps out fighting Degale now) and then we will see him back.

I hope he doesn't give in as the support he brings is amazing for the sport. Degale may have been batter last night, but still no one likes him.

I think there is still a lot smith could do on the british scene,and your right no one does like him

bigjack · Post by **bigjack** » 12 Dec 2010, 10:02

winkveron wrote:
Bleak wrote:How many more British title wins did does he need to win it outright?
I think 1. Maybe someone else can confirm this 'cause I'm not sure.

I'm pretty sure that you have to have 4 wins now,where it used to be three

jBacca · Post by **jBacca** » 12 Dec 2010, 13:03

Thought Smigga showed he can box last night. Just a shame he was seemed dwarfed by Degale - was like he was fighting a wall.

I think Smigga could go on to win the european at SMW, but think he'd be a lot more suited to MW.

Is MW a possibility?

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 12 Dec 2010, 13:09

jBacca wrote:Thought Smigga showed he can box last night. Just a shame he was seemed dwarfed by Degale - was like he was fighting a wall.

I think Smigga could go on to win the european at SMW, but think he'd be a lot more suited to MW.

Is MW a possibility?

Same here mate. Though he's a been at SM a while - might be hard to get back down there. But against a bigger SMs like Degale he's gonna have a hard time I think.

whiskey · Post by **whiskey** » 12 Dec 2010, 13:53

Smigga is a tough mofo.

Size was a factor last night.

misticmonk · Post by **misticmonk** » 12 Dec 2010, 14:00

If he continues I would think that Groves would be a natural fight to take. Should take a confidence building fight first but think alot of people would be interested in seeing the comparison. If Groves is manditory for Degale, that would leave Groves title available and it could be contest by Anderson and Smith.

MecnunK · Post by **MecnunK** » 12 Dec 2010, 14:00

Is the fight available to watch anywhere? Tried u tube but nothing there yet.

NazNaci1 · Post by **NazNaci1** » 12 Dec 2010, 14:08

I dont think Paul wants to remain at British level, so some international fights then a shot at the Euro seems about right.

Degale is above the British and Euro scene, based on that performance, not quite world class (needs alittle more seasoning) but not far off.

alexpaterson · Post by **alexpaterson** » 12 Dec 2010, 14:30

Rematch with Quigley maybe for the English (who's the current English champ) or for a British eliminator if DeGale moves on.

boxingfarmer30 · Post by **boxingfarmer30** » 12 Dec 2010, 15:37

winkveron wrote:
Bleak wrote:How many more British title wins did does he need to win it outright?
I think 1. Maybe someone else can confirm this 'cause I'm not sure.

It was his second defence and you need to defend three times to win it outright.

winkveron · Post by **winkveron** » 12 Dec 2010, 15:40

alexpaterson wrote:Rematch with Quigley maybe for the English (who's the current English champ) or for a British eliminator if DeGale moves on.

Can't see him wanting that just yet, he's had quite a few tear ups lately. I reckon he'll be in a 6/8 rounder next after a decent break, and then look for another big fight.

Go Faster Stripes · Post by **Go Faster Stripes** » 12 Dec 2010, 17:10

G0mez wrote:Smigga is a tough mofo.

Size was a factor last night.

Speed was THE factor !

robpalmer135 · Post by **robpalmer135** » 13 Dec 2010, 06:01

move back to Middleweight. I don't think he was ever a natural Super Middle. 2-3 good wins and a big fight with Macklin or Barker could happen.

15829 · Post by **15829** » 13 Dec 2010, 06:37

BIGMARK wrote:
robpalmer135 wrote:move back to Middleweight. I don't think he was ever a natural Super Middle. 2-3 good wins and a big fight with Macklin or Barker could happen.
i agree but i'm not sure how easily he makes the weight? It was very noticable the different in size and strength to Degale. It is obvious Paul is a tough fella but is small for a supper middle. I like Smith and hope he can re-build to come again.

smiths not made middle for a while now think it would be to big of a cut for him now, if he did the fight with macklin would never happen

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 13 Dec 2010, 08:29

You all know I had Smith as the man in this fight, but DeGale just dwarfed him on the night. So, the obvious thing would be to see if he can boil down to middleweight - if not, you wonder whether he might not end up like Kelly Pavlik and Arthur Abraham, too big for one weight and too small for the next...

I'd roll the dice personally. His record is decent on paper and he brings money - find a big international name in need of both, bring them to Liverpool and try to restart with a bang.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 13 Dec 2010, 10:34

i'd have Paul fighting Anderson, then Groves if possible.

i think he can win both. possibly were i his handlers i'd get him in with Groves asap while Groves is still a bit green

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