Danny Williams Out

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 09 Dec 2003, 15:21

Apparently Williams is out again of the match with Ralf Packheiser.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Dec 2003, 15:26

steve689 wrote:Apparently Williams is out again of the match with Ralf Packheiser.

I was just saying his heart's not really in the game any more. He pulled out AFTER the weigh-in when they were last scheduled to meet at York Hall several weeks ago.

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 09 Dec 2003, 15:37

I hope he hasn't gone to Germany yet, what a waste

bigfatjourneyman · Post by **bigfatjourneyman** » 09 Dec 2003, 15:40

I think his pulling out has nothing to do with his heart/attitude

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Dec 2003, 15:42

I hope not. But it's been too long since we've seen a really good performance from Danny.

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 09 Dec 2003, 18:06

i think we are all witnessing a change in the guard, in regard to the british heavy scene.

The question is, who is going to come top of the pile.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Dec 2003, 05:32

There's only so many excuses you can make for pulling out of fights
before people come to the conclusion that you're not really up for it any more.

Danny has always had problems getting 'up' for fights, now he appears to find it difficult to motivate himself to fight at all.

I don't know the ins and outs of this refusal, but it does look more and more like he's become a reluctant dragon.

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 10 Dec 2003, 05:50

The_Power wrote:i think we are all witnessing a change in the guard, in regard to the british heavy scene.

The question is, who is going to come top of the pile.

Audley Harrison obviously.

The question really is just how did the pile get so small?

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 10 Dec 2003, 09:59

Maybe geting back into bed with Warren had something to do with it, and being added to the Hatton bill !!

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 10 Dec 2003, 10:12

Odd move from Danny. Anyone know who he is fighting?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Dec 2003, 10:16

Kieran wrote:Maybe geting back into bed with Warren had something to do with it, and being added to the Hatton bill !!

Danny's fighting for Sports Network?

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 10 Dec 2003, 10:33

bennie wrote:
Kieran wrote:Maybe geting back into bed with Warren had something to do with it, and being added to the Hatton bill !!
Danny's fighting for Sports Network?

Just phoned Sports Network.

This is news to them.

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 10 Dec 2003, 10:37

but he is on the Manc bill

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Dec 2003, 10:44

shakermaker wrote:but he is on the Manc bill

Well, that's a Herbie Hide showdown definitely up the spout. What price Williams-Skelton next year?

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 10 Dec 2003, 10:51

Isn't there a quote from allegedly saying how pleased he is to have Danny on the bill on one of the websites?

Anyone know Danny well enough to ask him?

Biff · Post by **Biff** » 10 Dec 2003, 11:03

WOW Looks like Williams is now on the sky sports line up

this from their web page :
WBU Light-Welterweight title
Ricky Hatton v Ben Tackie
British/Commonwealth Welterweight titles
David Barnes v Kevin McIntyre
Heavyweight
Danny Williams v TBC

then Ottke Reid on the beep followed by:

oh yes:

Night of the Undisputed:
WBO Light-Welterweight
Zab Judah v Jaime Rangel
WBA Light-Middleweight Title
Alejandro Garcia v Travis Simms
WBA Interim Heavyweight title
Hasim Rahman v John Ruiz
World Middleweight title
Bernard Hopkins v William Joppy
World Welterweight title
Ricardo Mayorga v Corey Spin

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 10 Dec 2003, 11:04

just spoke to Wayne and he has spoken to Danny, its true. Danny is back with Frank

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Dec 2003, 11:18

Jesus, Danny swaps alliegences more often than someone playing risk. you have to feel that the changes of management, trainers and cornermen have done nothing but harm his career. It's like he always feels that a change of direction will change his fortunes each time, whereas I feel that Danny's problems have all been in the mind.

He's not the most naturally gifted heavyweight ever, but I feel his talent is greater than his achievements for sure.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Dec 2003, 11:36

This is a shoker, now Skelton vs Williams sounds a really possibility.

Is it just a one off deal or has Danny said bye bye to the BBC. It must have been quite frustrating, because outside of Lennox the BBC had the two biggest domestic names in Hide and Harrison in the 2 years he's been there, there not been so much as a smell of a contest.

Seems like Hide is scared and I don't know what to think of Harrison.

Perhaps Skelton is the only fighter willing to fight him, the winner could really start thinking of some big contest. Of Course, Williams has to deal with TBA and Sprott first.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 10 Dec 2003, 11:37

Two year deal, and a guarenteed shot at the WBO.
Guess that puts paid to Williams v Hide and Williams v Harrison.
Suggestion re match with Sprott will happen early next year.
Presume after that, the usual long list of unknown foreigners.
Good luck to him.
A two year contract at 30 isn't bad for him.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 10 Dec 2003, 11:46

What it has done is it will have harmed Lion Promotions who, apart from Lennox do they have in the HW Division.

This basically ruins Lions chances with the BBC

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Dec 2003, 12:06

Is Corrie Sanders still the WBO heavyweight champion?

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 10 Dec 2003, 12:08

No Bennie it was whisked away from him for whatever reason.

Tua and Oquendo will contest the vacant belt in 2004.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 10 Dec 2003, 12:10

But maybe Sports Network can slip through the back door and get Danny a shot while Tua is sorting out his managerial problems.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Dec 2003, 12:20

Cheers, Kilburn. I wonder if Danny's going to relinquish his British and Commonwealth titles shortly! It wouldn't surprise me if, despite what he says, Danny ducks out of the tricky rubber match with Sprott and builds up to the WBO shot. That would leave the way clear for Skelton to fight for the vacant British title, perhaps against Sprott. All Skelton has to do is get past Julius Francis next time out (which he should) and then Mr. Warren will have something big to offer Skelton and Williams.
Good signing this for Warren.

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