Why is the BBBofC taking so long to decide on Chagaev?

[Tunney]

Ruslan Chagaev said the documents were sent a month ago:

http://www.BS.com/chagaev-talk ... ics--36262

Why is the BBBofC being so slow to make a decision on whether Chagaev can fight in the UK or not? :??

[Tunney]

Anybody know why they're taking so long??

[Chambers2]

I thought it was in the BBBC rules that he can#'t fight over here due to him having The Aids or whatever.......... bring on Povetkin the other fighter that the Klits are ducking

[Datsue]

It's because they've personally got something against you, Tunney.

[Tunney]

It's because they've personally got something against you, Tunney.

That's a silly reply.

I'm just wondering why they are taking so long to make the decision - Chagaev said yesterday he needs to know soon.

[Asterix]

I'm just wondering why they are taking so long to make the decision - Chagaev said yesterday he needs to know soon.

Let me guess, he said that in the media? If he wants to know, all he has to do is call up the BBBofC.

[Horse]

I'm just wondering why they are taking so long to make the decision - Chagaev said yesterday he needs to know soon.

Let me guess, he said that in the media? If he wants to know, all he has to do is call up the BBBofC.

If the BBBofC will tell Chagaev if he asks them, then why haven't they made an offical announcement of their verdict to the public?

[Asterix]

I'm just wondering why they are taking so long to make the decision - Chagaev said yesterday he needs to know soon.

Let me guess, he said that in the media? If he wants to know, all he has to do is call up the BBBofC.

If the BBBofC will tell Chagaev if he asks them, then why haven't they made an offical announcement of their verdict to the public?

Same answer to you. Call them up to find out what's going on. I don't know what they've decided, if anything.

[earsjohn]

A few things as I see them....

What are the BBBC being asked to decide upon? As I understand it no fight has been made, so surely the BBBC can't veto something that isn't in place? As Chagaev says in his article he's sent stuff to England and he's not heard from Team Haye. That doesn't give me any sense that an agreement with Hayemaker has been made and the fight simply depends on a medical decision.

Secondly, it's all well and good that Chagaev has sent his documents to England, but surely the BBBC will want to carry out their own tests using their own trusted and accredited medical professionals before they make a decision? It would be foolhardy at best and criminally negligent at worst to make a decision on the basis of information provided by an unknown medical team when it concerns a boxer who had previously been tested positive for a condition that would result in him not being eligible to fight in the UK.

Personally I hope the fight with Povetkin gets made as I think its more relevant for the mid-term future of the heavyweight division. But if it doesn't I'd be more than happy to see Haye go in with Tarver, Jones Jnr, Holyfield or Mormeck if only to read the increasingly exasperated posts of Tunney in the build up and fall out of what would undoubtedly be one of the finest heavyweight title fights this side of Bowe v Holyfield I

[ERIC GUY]

It's because they've personally got something against you, Tunney.

That's a silly reply.

I'm just wondering why they are taking so long to make the decision - Chagaev said yesterday he needs to know soon.

why not call them and ask!!!!!

[bennie]

David Haye moves closer to unification showdowns with the Klitschko sisters when he defends his WBA heavyweight crown against, so they say, one of four opponents on the night of May 21 at London's O2 Arena, including old man Roy Jones, but the less said about that one the better. The other three consist of Alexander Povetkin, Denis Boytsov and Ruslan Chagaev.
The unbeaten Povetkin, a former Olympic gold medallist from Russia, has done everything right in six years as a pro and looks ready to go at the age of 31, a good age for a heavyweight, after 21 solid wins. He lacks Haye's chilling brand of speed and power but puts punches together smoothly and firmly, and reads opponents well (unlike most heavies) as he showed when outboxing Philadelphia's "Fast" Eddie Chambers over 12 rounds in 2008, although few heavies, if any, are as fast as Haye, a former undisputed cruiserweight champion of the world who would most likely have destroyed Chambers inside six rounds.
Nevertheless, Povetkin ranks as an outstanding challenger for our man, unlike the despicable Audley Harrison. Yes, Haye comes off that pathetic three-round win over Harrison in Manchester in November in front of a disgusted world, a world that moaned long and hard afterwards - none of which was Haye's fault. A gifted fighter with long arms and a dangerous array of punches, Haye went out there and did his job. He made it look easy - too easy - and has now stopped eight of his last 10 opponents, in good company (overlooking Harrrison). Haye coolly outboxed the two men who did survive, including gigantic Russian Nikolai Valuev to win the WBA heavyweight title in Germany in November 2009, retaining the title twice since.
The Harrison debacle behind him, Haye's heavyweight future looks rosy. Still only 30, the charismatic Londoner often hints at retirement but all fighters do when intense training gets them down, Believe me, Haye has yet even to reach his heavyweight peak; the hard training all pays off, of course, when Haye nails opponents to the canvas or cruises to 12-round decisions, the latter of which he's done twice. Povetkin, in contrast, is one of those lazy, fleshy types who trains half-heartedly and likes to fight at his own often sedate pace. This will hurt him on the night (if he and Haye meet). Haye is all smiles outside the ring but in there, he has the power and the killer instinct to drain the colour from anyone's face and Povetkin is pale-looking as it is.
To the next Russian challenger, Boytsov, a stocky fellow who has racked up impressive stats of 28-0 (23 early) but is largely avoided and yet to fight anyone of Haye's talent and stature, although he did stop a shopworn Taras Bidenko in six rounds in 2009, the Ukrainian who wobbled the colossal Valuev in the 12th and last round of a points defeat dating back to July 2002, can you believe. (Haye also wobbled Valuev in the 12th and last round, but Haye won.) Boytsov, who has boxed only five times in the last three years, winning them all by stoppage, is clearly dangerous but so is Haye at 25-1 (23 early), and the Londoner holds all the edges in size, speed, fluidity, top-flight experience and ring intelligence.
Haye refused to walk into Harrison, for example, with Harrison looking to counterpunch, picking him off instead from the outside and flooring him with a few casual right hands. Long before that, Haye took a shrewd 'knee' when Jean Marc Mormeck hurt him in the early rounds of a big fight at cruiserweight, allowing his head to clear and coming back to chop down the bull of a Frenchman in the seventh of what ranks as a vastly underrated performance from the exciting Haye, one which showed he had learned from his only defeat when he stayed on his feet under fire from Bolton's Carl Thompson and was halted in five rounds at Wembley in 2004. Today, Haye enjoys it in there because he knows he can hurt opponents and take any hurt back, and he knows he can do the full 12 rounds, a mental thing that bothered him for some years. All this will expose the untested Boytsov who looks out of his depth against the superfit, determined, aggressive Haye, a champion who relishes in his fitness, who relishes in dishing it out, and dish it out he undoubtedly will.
Southpaw Chagaev, the mandatory challenger with Hepatitis-B, has been a naughty boy before. He licked Cuban great Felix Savon (14-4) in the heavyweight final of the 1997 world amateur championships in Hungary but had turned pro in the States beforehand (winning two fights by knockout) and was stripped of his medal (shades somewhat of Ingemar Johansson), although he was allowed to rejoin the vested ranks and won super-heavyweight gold at the world championships in Belfast in 2001, where Haye lost in a thrilling heavyweight final to Odlanier Solis. Based in Hamburg, Chagaev, an Uzbekistani, then turned pro openly and stopped 59-fight American Everett "Big Foot" Martin in his official debut in September 2001 (four rounds). The usually durable Martin never fought again.
Chagaev, 32, can undoubtedly fight and has lost only to Haye's bitter rival Wladimir Klitschko in 29 outings, in June 2009, so he will serve as a great sounding board if he does tackle Haye in May. Klitschko dropped Chagaev early in their German encounter in front of an astonishing 61,000 fans but needed nine full rounds to finish him off and never floored him again (it ended on a corner retirement, Chagaev horribly busted up), since when Chagaev has boxed twice - unconvincingly - and was taken to the wire by American 'opponent' Travis Walker last time out in November before taking an eight-round decision.
The man dubbed "White Tyson" looks over the mountain. Chagaev is far more boxer than puncher, anyway, using good movement and boxing skills to offset a lack of height and reach, although he likes to press forward and apply educated pressure once an opponent is tiring. However, the Hepatitis thing is only exacerbated by Chagaev's left eyebrow these days, which is busting open repeatedly, meaning blood and lots of it. The eyebrow let him down terribly against Klitschko but even then, he did tag the giant Ukrainian a few times, who said afterwards: "You can't underestimate Chagaev.
"He did everything today, but I was better."
Nevertheless, Chagaev has largely failed to impress since outscoring that half-man, half-beast Valuev over 12 rounds four years ago, while Haye has continued to look good since outscoring the same man, destroying John Ruiz in nine rounds (four knockdowns), a man who had held Chagaev to a split decision, and toying with Harrison, a southpaw punch-picker like Chagaev.
The form fighter is the British fighter, no matter who he meets.

[Scottrf]

David Haye moves closer to unification showdowns with the Klitschko sisters

This childish jibe wont help people take your post seriously, which is a shame because you've obviously put effort into it.

[Chambers2]

David Haye moves closer to unification showdowns with the Klitschko sisters

This childish jibe wont help people take your post seriously, which is a shame because you've obviously put effort into it.

Hark at 'GrandMaster-Boxrec'

[Scottrf]

Make a sarcastic comment all you want, but the Heavyweight champions deserve respect.

[Chambers2]

Make a sarcastic comment all you want, but the Heavyweight champions deserve respect.

The Boring Robotic Klits deserve to be slated for boring the sh!t out of the boxing world for the past 10 years.......... Haye will decapitate them both on the same night, when they've stopped having warm-up fights for him

[Scottrf]

If he was as confident as you he'd have done it already, and not worried about taking 40% considering the purses he'd get as unified champ.

[Chambers2]

If he was as confident as you he'd have done it already, and not worried about taking 40% considering the purses he'd get as unified champ.

yeah yeah we've all been through this argument a 100 times................ and if Wlad was confident he would have fought Haye in April instead of taking a warm-up bout

[Scottrf]

Without wanting to go through this again, it was Sky not Wlad that turned down April.

[Chambers2]

Without wanting to go through this again,

Nuff said