It looks more and more likely that Tito Trinidad will make a long awaited comback sometime this year after retiring from boxing for good after the Cherifi fight.
It sets up the biggest and best fight in world boxing outside of the heavyweights if De La Hoya and Felix can negotiate and rematch of their 1999 welterweight bout.
I would imagine Tito would take a warm-up, then jump straight in against the Golden Boy.
Should he remain retired or has he still much to offer?
So, it looks like Trinidad's coming back...
I have heard that Tito is trying to come back at Light Middle, although the pictures at the Hopkins vs Joppy show suggested other wise.
Apparently, as Mike Nosky pointed out, Tito wants Travis Simms as his comeback opponent.
I know the Travis Simms camp would love it also.
As for your question, I really don't know the answer - I have heard so many stories about a possible eye trouble. If he's healthy then I think he's doing the right thing, I think he's okay financially, so he's doing it for himself. He's young enough and hasn't been out all that long, the break might have done him more good than harm.
He always left on a bit of a strange note.
Apparently, as Mike Nosky pointed out, Tito wants Travis Simms as his comeback opponent.
I know the Travis Simms camp would love it also.
As for your question, I really don't know the answer - I have heard so many stories about a possible eye trouble. If he's healthy then I think he's doing the right thing, I think he's okay financially, so he's doing it for himself. He's young enough and hasn't been out all that long, the break might have done him more good than harm.
He always left on a bit of a strange note.
I agree, the popular rumour was always that he was sitting out the rest of his King contract, however King's been quoted heavily on the issue and there's been talk that Tito may return on King's next major PPV event in March, possibly in Puerto Rico.
He'd walk through Simms, IMO, so I guess it makes sense plus he'd pick up a belt in the process.
He'd walk through Simms, IMO, so I guess it makes sense plus he'd pick up a belt in the process.
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MightyWarrior
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Did anyone read the recent interview with Don Felix Trinidad Sr? The guy is still obviously a control freak and seems to be pushing for a Tito comeback ( For his "After the family has talked" comment, read "After I have told the family my decision" )
He wants straight in to a Hop or Oscar fight, no warmup needed...
He mentions an incredible $15,000000 as Tito's purse for a DLH rematch.
Golden Boy promotions have just replied saying they think this money would be available.
He wants straight in to a Hop or Oscar fight, no warmup needed...
He mentions an incredible $15,000000 as Tito's purse for a DLH rematch.
Golden Boy promotions have just replied saying they think this money would be available.
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jamesmcdonnell
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It's a well known fact that Leonard was basically never out of training, he was constantly sparring and training during his retirement to keep sharp, with one eye on the comeback trail at all times.
He waited to see signs of Hagler's deterioration, and then went for it, and just squeaked by Hagler. In a rematch, I think Hagler would have kicked his butt, and he knew it, which is why there never was one.
It was an amazing achievement by Leonard, but not one I think Tito is likely to repeat, unless Hopkins gets old in the next 6 months.
The difference is also, Leonard was a more talented fighter than Hagler, Hagler was a fighter who gradually learnt his trade, Leonard, like RJJ defied logic in some respects, and had the kind of physical gifts that come once in a generation.
Tito is not as good as Hopkins, isn't a natural middle, doesn't have the power to hurt him, and certainly cannot outbox him. The only chance he has is of outworking him, but on the basis of X's last fight, I don't see that happening at all.
He waited to see signs of Hagler's deterioration, and then went for it, and just squeaked by Hagler. In a rematch, I think Hagler would have kicked his butt, and he knew it, which is why there never was one.
It was an amazing achievement by Leonard, but not one I think Tito is likely to repeat, unless Hopkins gets old in the next 6 months.
The difference is also, Leonard was a more talented fighter than Hagler, Hagler was a fighter who gradually learnt his trade, Leonard, like RJJ defied logic in some respects, and had the kind of physical gifts that come once in a generation.
Tito is not as good as Hopkins, isn't a natural middle, doesn't have the power to hurt him, and certainly cannot outbox him. The only chance he has is of outworking him, but on the basis of X's last fight, I don't see that happening at all.
not for Hagler... but the subsequent comebacks definately tarnished his standing and the respect he gets from fans...Goz wrote:Didn't harm Sugar Ray Leonard when he came back for Hagler...The_Power wrote:There never the same when they come back. All it will do is damage his final standing in history, i dont see the point.
I know he's an exception but you never know....
It's funy that isn't it? And you are right, Leonard did suffer from the last few fights in his career although not in my eyes.knockout wrote: not for Hagler... but the subsequent comebacks definately tarnished his standing and the respect he gets from fans...
After Hagler the win over LaLonde was pretty good, the draw with Hearns was a reasonable fight, considering he was at the tail end of his career.
Even dropping back down to Junior-Middle to last the course with a fresh Terry Norris was no disgrace in my book.
The latest taken from fightnews.com
Oscar comments on Tito rematch!
By David Rodriguez
Last night in Hidalgo, Texas, Oscar De La Hoya had a few comments about all the news surrounding a possible rematch with Tito Trinidad. "I've tried to reach out to him but I have been unsuccessful. If he wants to stay retired, I respect his decision 100%. But I wish that I can hear it from Trinidad himself," explained De La Hoya. "Trinidad Sr. says that they are in the driver's seat if a rematch was going to happen and that they will offer me money and that the fight will be at 160. If the fight does happen I might have to carry stones in my pockets to make 160 but I would really love to fight him again," said Oscar. When asked about Don King being the promoter, De La Hoya replied, "I know that there will be a lot of back in forth when it comes to negotiations for a fight like this, but I believe that it should be about the fighters. If the fighters want to fight, let's make the fight." De La Hoya also stated that he will like to fight three times in 2004, naming Tito Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Bernard Hopkins, Fernando Vargas and Ricardo Mayorga as possible opponents.
Oscar comments on Tito rematch!
By David Rodriguez
Last night in Hidalgo, Texas, Oscar De La Hoya had a few comments about all the news surrounding a possible rematch with Tito Trinidad. "I've tried to reach out to him but I have been unsuccessful. If he wants to stay retired, I respect his decision 100%. But I wish that I can hear it from Trinidad himself," explained De La Hoya. "Trinidad Sr. says that they are in the driver's seat if a rematch was going to happen and that they will offer me money and that the fight will be at 160. If the fight does happen I might have to carry stones in my pockets to make 160 but I would really love to fight him again," said Oscar. When asked about Don King being the promoter, De La Hoya replied, "I know that there will be a lot of back in forth when it comes to negotiations for a fight like this, but I believe that it should be about the fighters. If the fighters want to fight, let's make the fight." De La Hoya also stated that he will like to fight three times in 2004, naming Tito Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Bernard Hopkins, Fernando Vargas and Ricardo Mayorga as possible opponents.
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MightyWarrior
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From the BBC
Trinidad on comeback trail
Felix Trinidad is ready to come out of retirement provided he can fight Oscar de la Hoya, according to Don King.
Trinidad surprised the boxing world when he hung up his gloves in May 2002 at the age of 29.
The Puerto Rican held world titles in three different weight classes and beat De la Hoya in 1999.
"He doesn't want a tune-up, he wants Oscar first," said promoter King. "He would be ready in September, October or November."
Trinidad quit the ring having won 41 of his 42 bouts, his sole defeat coming at the hands of Bernard Hopkins in a 2001 middleweight unification bout.
He was the first man to beat De la Hoya and was set for a re-match against the "Golden Boy" when he called time on his career after beating Frenchman Hassine Cherifi.
At the time Trinidad, known as "Tito", said "all the money in the world" would not tempt him back into the ring and he had set his heart on becoming a teacher or an accountant.
Trinidad on comeback trail
Felix Trinidad is ready to come out of retirement provided he can fight Oscar de la Hoya, according to Don King.
Trinidad surprised the boxing world when he hung up his gloves in May 2002 at the age of 29.
The Puerto Rican held world titles in three different weight classes and beat De la Hoya in 1999.
"He doesn't want a tune-up, he wants Oscar first," said promoter King. "He would be ready in September, October or November."
Trinidad quit the ring having won 41 of his 42 bouts, his sole defeat coming at the hands of Bernard Hopkins in a 2001 middleweight unification bout.
He was the first man to beat De la Hoya and was set for a re-match against the "Golden Boy" when he called time on his career after beating Frenchman Hassine Cherifi.
At the time Trinidad, known as "Tito", said "all the money in the world" would not tempt him back into the ring and he had set his heart on becoming a teacher or an accountant.
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knockout artist
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Maybe what he has been offered seems like all the money in the world.MightyWarrior wrote:From the BBC
Trinidad on comeback trail
Felix Trinidad is ready to come out of retirement provided he can fight Oscar de la Hoya, according to Don King.
Trinidad surprised the boxing world when he hung up his gloves in May 2002 at the age of 29.
The Puerto Rican held world titles in three different weight classes and beat De la Hoya in 1999.
"He doesn't want a tune-up, he wants Oscar first," said promoter King. "He would be ready in September, October or November."
Trinidad quit the ring having won 41 of his 42 bouts, his sole defeat coming at the hands of Bernard Hopkins in a 2001 middleweight unification bout.
He was the first man to beat De la Hoya and was set for a re-match against the "Golden Boy" when he called time on his career after beating Frenchman Hassine Cherifi.
At the time Trinidad, known as "Tito", said "all the money in the world" would not tempt him back into the ring and he had set his heart on becoming a teacher or an accountant.
I reckon he's skint.
According to scribe Tim Smith, Don Felix has given Don King the go-ahead to start negotiating Trinidad's comeback fight.
Added to the list of possible opponents is Shane Mosley. However, I'd imagine this would just be a ploy to force the hand of Oscar De La Hoya. Having said that, Mosley agreed to fight another King fighter in Mayorga, so it's not impossible for that fight to happen.
Added to the list of possible opponents is Shane Mosley. However, I'd imagine this would just be a ploy to force the hand of Oscar De La Hoya. Having said that, Mosley agreed to fight another King fighter in Mayorga, so it's not impossible for that fight to happen.
I would have imagined Mosely running absolute rings around Tito with his handspeed but maybe after seeing the Forrest fights Felix feels he would have a chance, especially if he connects.Ulysses wrote:According to scribe Tim Smith, Don Felix has given Don King the go-ahead to start negotiating Trinidad's comeback fight.
Added to the list of possible opponents is Shane Mosley. However, I'd imagine this would just be a ploy to force the hand of Oscar De La Hoya. Having said that, Mosley agreed to fight another King fighter in Mayorga, so it's not impossible for that fight to happen.
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