Fights Where The Right Winner Was Awarded But . . .

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The first one that comes to mind is Mayweather/Oscar. I had it 9-3 and can't see anything closer than 8-4. He was pretty much playing with him the second half of the fight. Not that it was unexpected.

[darren_simion]

Lewis/Holyfield

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Really? I thought Lewis/Holyfield was closer than the cards indicated. That was a bit of a make up decision. Evander may well have won. A point or two either way for me.

[TBooze]

We all like to think only our fighters get screwed abroad, but even as a Brit I felt sorry for Sugarboy Malinga.

In the first Benn fight he was robbed.

His fight with Eubank was mighty close.

And with reference to this thread, despite outboxing Benn in their rematch, he was only given the Split nod.

[dempseyfire]

The first one that comes to mind is Mayweather/Oscar. I had it 9-3 and can't see anything closer than 8-4. He was pretty much playing with him the second half of the fight. Not that it was unexpected.

I agree, I scored it 116-112 in favor of Floyd Mayweather Jr. I'm always left scratching my head when people claim this was either: A) a close fight or (even worse) B: a robbery.

I had Oscar winning, as did a sizable minority and I think ringside was split 50/50. I have no issue with people scoring it to FLoyd To claim that it wasn't close or that close scorecards are out of wack is ridiculous.

[dempseyfire]

Agreed, but what did Floyd do that was effective? He was good with the counter right hand in the latter half of the fight, but when you play defense for 4/5 of a round and then land a few pot-shots, vs a guy who is the aggressor and throwing and landing more (Floyd definitely got hit in that fight, to hear his fans one would think Oscar didn't land a punch), I'll give it to the guy making the fight. And this is a Chris Byrd fan talking for crying out loud, it's not like I'm someone who always rewards aggression for aggression's sake.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The first one that comes to mind is Mayweather/Oscar. I had it 9-3 and can't see anything closer than 8-4. He was pretty much playing with him the second half of the fight. Not that it was unexpected.

I agree, I scored it 116-112 in favor of Floyd Mayweather Jr. I'm always left scratching my head when people claim this was either: A) a close fight or (even worse) B: a robbery.

I had Oscar winning, as did a sizable minority and I think ringside was split 50/50. I have no issue with people scoring it to FLoyd To claim that it wasn't close or that close scorecards are out of wack is ridiculous.

Nah, your card is ridiculous. Floyd schooled him the last 6 rounds.

[dempseyfire]

I agree, I scored it 116-112 in favor of Floyd Mayweather Jr. I'm always left scratching my head when people claim this was either: A) a close fight or (even worse) B: a robbery.

I had Oscar winning, as did a sizable minority and I think ringside was split 50/50. I have no issue with people scoring it to FLoyd To claim that it wasn't close or that close scorecards are out of wack is ridiculous.

Nah, your card is ridiculous. Floyd schooled him the last 6 rounds.

I don't remember every round but I do remember Oscar took the 12th round rather uncontroversially. To say he was 'schooled' is the very definition of exaggeration.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I had Oscar winning, as did a sizable minority and I think ringside was split 50/50. I have no issue with people scoring it to FLoyd To claim that it wasn't close or that close scorecards are out of wack is ridiculous.

Nah, your card is ridiculous. Floyd schooled him the last 6 rounds.

I don't remember every round but I do remember Oscar took the 12th round rather uncontroversially. To say he was 'schooled' is the very definition of exaggeration.

You definitely don't remember much. It was an easy win for Floyd. I guess Oscar missing twenty punches in a row excited you in round twelve. Didn't do much for me. I think mayweather could have stopped him if he wanted to.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I always laugh at some point when the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight comes up. It's a microcosm of time exaggerating things. Mayweather having the option to stop De La Hoya is fucken hilarious

That fight gets wider in Mayweather's favour every time it's told. Within a year, it'll 11-1 on most peoples' cards

[raylawpc]

I always laugh at some point when the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight comes up. It's a microcosm of time exaggerating things. Mayweather having the option to stop De La Hoya is fucken hilarious

That fight gets wider in Mayweather's favour every time it's told. Within a year, it'll 11-1 on most peoples' cards

I didn't score the fight because I didn't see it in real time. But I have no argument with those who think de la Hoya won.

[jezzamundo]

I scored it 115-113 to Mayweather. Definitely a close fight with lots of close rounds, I had Floyd behind, but winning most of the rounds down the stretch to take it.

I'm wondering if the previous Lewis-Holyfield post was in regards to the 'draw', rather than the rematch, where I agree with the judge who scored it 115-113 to Lewis, but thought the other two were more than generous, particularly the 117-111 card, which was just as out of order as the Eugenia Williams card in the first fight (but angers me far less).

[jaclem2]

...hagler/duran......granted hagler for whatever reason got cautious in the later rounds but he clearly won and yet the judges...or maybe just one..two? (i haven't seen it since i saw it live pay-per-view) had it much closer than it really was.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

...hagler/duran......granted hagler for whatever reason got cautious in the later rounds but he clearly won and yet the judges...or maybe just one..two? (i haven't seen it since i saw it live pay-per-view) had it much closer than it really was.

Agreed, he would have lost if it was 12 rounds. I had it 10-5 for Marvin. But he actually turned it up in the later rounds. Duran had a big round twelve and then Hagler stepped it up in the last three.

[Counter-puncher]

good thread.

I think the Benitez - Duran fight is an example. I think Benitez beat Duran much more clearly than some fairly close scoring would indicate. some disagree.

[ryanst1982]

First holyfield Lewis fight was outrageous IMO
Lewis won that for me by 4 rounds at least. But thats not what this thread is about so I digress

Mayweather De La Hoya was never close for my money. Certainly not a split. Mayweather by a distances for me. Also Klitschko v Haye. For 2 judges to score it anything less than 9 rounds for Klitschko. (One gave it 117-109, and
Another scored it 116-110) Im a Haye fan (i know, it was a disgraceful showing) and even I had Haye only taking 2 rounds. And in Germany. Bizaare

[dempseyfire]

First holyfield Lewis fight was outrageous IMO
Lewis won that for me by 4 rounds at least. But thats not what this thread is about so I digress

Mayweather De La Hoya was never close for my money. Certainly not a split. Mayweather by a distances for me. Also Klitschko v Haye. For 2 judges to score it anything less than 9 rounds for Klitschko. (One gave it 117-109, and
Another scored it 116-110) Im a Haye fan (i know, it was a disgraceful showing) and even I had Haye only taking 2 rounds. And in Germany. Bizaare

COmplete disagree with all of those!! LOL

I thought Holyfield-Lewis I was a fairly close fight but clear W for Lewis, so the 115-113 card was not out of wack . .I really don't see how anyone could score more than 8 rounds tops for Lennox.

My thoughts are already known for Oscar-Floyd

Klitschko-Haye . .I didn't see the thorough domination others saw. I gave Haye 3 rounds (3,4, and 12) with 2 even (1 and 7). There were very few rounds "won" in that fight, more like guys giving away rounds via inactivity and utter ineffectiveness.


I think a big one here would be Hearns-Benitez. Tommy pretty much dominated the fight, and he only got a split decision win out of it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I gave Haye 1,3,4 & 12. I was actually shocked when I read people talking about a shutout. Haye stopped fighting at all after the fourth round, but the day that missing jabs is thorough domination, I'll switch to game shows.

[crusader]

I thought the official scores were bang on for Klit-Haye (I had it 9-2-1). Wlad did just a little more in almost every round.

[ryanst1982]

I gave Haye 1,3,4 & 12. I was actually shocked when I read people talking about a shutout. Haye stopped fighting at all after the fourth round, but the day that missing jabs is thorough domination, I'll switch to game shows.

The day doing nothing at all, barely throwing and running for 12 rounds is worthy of 4 rounds il watch snooker. Granted, missing jabs isnt great but when opponent is doing nothing but dodge, those missed jabs are the round winners. He landed more also so its not like he was jabbing air for 12 rounds. I like Haye, im a Haye fan, but giving him 3 rounds is me bring generous in my opinion.

By the way saad, enjoy Wheel Of Fortune

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That's how he won the fight, and 8-4 is quite comfortable. But to get upset when someone scores one solid right hand over 5 jabs is beyond silly.

I'm more of a Jeopardy man.

[ryanst1982]

Nice touch with th,e jeopardy.

Im partial to deal or no deal myself, no skill involved just blind luck. You could say its the Tyson Fury of game shows. You see what I did there.

Your welcome

[Goodnight, Irene]

I thought Benitez could have been given a draw against Hearns.

[King Carlos]

I thought Benitez could have been given a draw against Hearns.

I thought he could've easily lost by about 9 rounds.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I thought that was 10-5 or 11-4 for Tommy. A draw would have been more criminal than the Leonard robbery.