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I bet Joe will be looking for his old job back as a baggage handler at the airport now his bucket carrying skills have been found out. Great fighters make great trainers!!!!!!

It dosent make him a bad trainer.. I strongly believe a trainer is only as good as his boxer

What have you got against Gallagher? Being compared to Wenger is like being compared to Pol Pot or Fred West.

Joe Gallagher has changed Steve style no head movement,and as him boxing like John Murry needs to go back to his old style he was taking to many punches in my opinion

FIGHTFANs wrote:Joe Gallagher has changed Steve style no head movement,and as him boxing like John Murry needs to go back to his old style he was taking to many punches in my opinion

I completely agree

has john murray left him ?

im not bitching or gossiping.. sure i read something on here a while ago

sweetscience wrote:has john murray left him ?

im not bitching or gossiping.. sure i read something on here a while ago

I did read he had,cant remember where but when i looked again i couldnt find it..Maybe i dreamt it

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

sweetscience wrote:has john murray left him ?

im not bitching or gossiping.. sure i read something on here a while ago

I did read he had,cant remember where but when i looked again i couldnt find it..Maybe i dreamt it

I follow Joe and most of Joe's fighters on twitter and Murray hasn't been mentioned since the defeat. Not sure if he is having a break or if he's left though

Josh1111 wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

sweetscience wrote:has john murray left him ?

im not bitching or gossiping.. sure i read something on here a while ago

I did read he had,cant remember where but when i looked again i couldnt find it..Maybe i dreamt it

I follow Joe and most of Joe's fighters on twitter and Murray hasn't been mentioned since the defeat. Not sure if he is having a break or if he's left though

Ask him Josh...Oh no hang on alot of them like getting as many followers as poss but dont interact

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

Josh1111 wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote: I did read he had,cant remember where but when i looked again i couldnt find it..Maybe i dreamt it

I follow Joe and most of Joe's fighters on twitter and Murray hasn't been mentioned since the defeat. Not sure if he is having a break or if he's left though

Ask him Josh...Oh no hang on alot of them like getting as many followers as poss but dont interact

indeed, not worth wasting my time. I only follow them all to get news as it happens. Just like Martin Murray announcing he's fighting Sturm.

The fact that Joe was no quality boxer doesn't make him a bad trainer. I think his problem is we have seen a few of his fighters recently with no plan b when the pressure is on. The hype of his winning streak and his alleged ego issues causing the break up with KK has probably lead to this situation.

They all need to go away and work hard and learn from this period.

Josh1111 wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

Josh1111 wrote: I follow Joe and most of Joe's fighters on twitter and Murray hasn't been mentioned since the defeat. Not sure if he is having a break or if he's left though

Ask him Josh...Oh no hang on alot of them like getting as many followers as poss but dont interact

indeed, not worth wasting my time. I only follow them all to get news as it happens. Just like Martin Murray announcing he's fighting Sturm.

Same here pal,i only follow coz im a snouty git who likes the news as it happens

The general tone of this thread leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
Questioning whether Joe G has "been found out" is ridiculous, it doesn't even make sense.
A couple of defeats within a successful stable and all of a sudden the armchair warriors hit the keyboards.
How many boxers did Joe have out on Saturday?
How many won?
Come on, let's cut the hysteria.

Mike B wrote:The general tone of this thread leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
Questioning whether Joe G has "been found out" is ridiculous, it doesn't even make sense.
A couple of defeats within a successful stable and all of a sudden the armchair warriors hit the keyboards.
How many boxers did Joe have out on Saturday?
How many won?
Come on, let's cut the hysteria.

He had a few out,but on paper they should have all been wins...Im not one who jumped on Gallaghers back as i said on this thread your only as good as your fighters... Take nothing away from Selby,he might be the find of the season(if you didnt already know about him)

Mike B wrote:The general tone of this thread leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
Questioning whether Joe G has "been found out" is ridiculous, it doesn't even make sense.
A couple of defeats within a successful stable and all of a sudden the armchair warriors hit the keyboards.
How many boxers did Joe have out on Saturday?
How many won?
Come on, let's cut the hysteria.

Mike, if I am somehow part of your armchair warriors comment, then please let me know what part of my post suggests I say Joe has been found out. I was pointing out a valid concern against some successful skillful fighters which he is responsible for. I like pretty much all the Boxers Joe looks after and wish them all the best, hence why I suggest they all need to go away and learn and yes, that includes Joe, bear in mind he has only had 50+ fights in the corners.

Mike B wrote:The general tone of this thread leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
Questioning whether Joe G has "been found out" is ridiculous, it doesn't even make sense.
A couple of defeats within a successful stable and all of a sudden the armchair warriors hit the keyboards.
How many boxers did Joe have out on Saturday?
How many won?
Come on, let's cut the hysteria.

Good post, agree with most of it - apart from the silly "armchair warrior" comment.

stevek3lly
Never thought of you when I posted my reply, think you need to take another look at the first post on this thread to understand the reasoning behind my post.
Have followed JG since the ams and like all of us, he probably learns something new everyday, I know I do, and then sets about trying to build that into what he's already learned.
All I'd say to the 'armchair warriors' is he hasn't done bad for a 50 fight novice has he.

Mike B wrote:stevek3lly
Never thought of you when I posted my reply, think you need to take another look at the first post on this thread to understand the reasoning behind my post.
Have followed JG since the ams and like all of us, he probably learns something new everyday, I know I do, and then sets about trying to build that into what he's already learned.
All I'd say to the 'armchair warriors' is he hasn't done bad for a 50 fight novice has he.

No worries matey. I agree he has built a very good stable and has a very good record and hope he learns a lot from the most recent outings and the guys come back bigger and better.

Cheers Steve.

i think joes problem is he doesnt adapt to a fighters style he makes the adapt to him, great for fitness not so good for the technical side imo

diggler wrote:i think joes problem is he doesnt adapt to a fighters style he makes the adapt to him, great for fitness not so good for the technical side imo

I've never met the guy so have not axe to grind BUT that camp has set itself up for a fall by hyping that winning run in the way that they did. When it inevitably came to an end people were always gonna have something to say. So if you're gonna big yourself up when you're winning you've gotta be able to take the stick when things go against you.

Changing the subject slightly, what on earth has happened to Stephen Smith? Looked a great prospect a few years ago but struggled badly against Simpson and took an alarming number of shots against Selby. Proved his heart but where's his boxing gone?

I think he needs to think very carefully about the future and somehow get himself boxing again - footwork, jab, head movement; wars like that dont suit him and will have him out the sport pretty sharpish, in my humble opinion.

danfoster wrote:

diggler wrote:i think joes problem is he doesnt adapt to a fighters style he makes the adapt to him, great for fitness not so good for the technical side imo

I've never met the guy so have not axe to grind BUT that camp has set itself up for a fall by hyping that winning run in the way that they did. When it inevitably came to an end people were always gonna have something to say. So if you're gonna big yourself up when you're winning you've gotta be able to take the stick when things go against you.

Changing the subject slightly, what on earth has happened to Stephen Smith? Looked a great prospect a few years ago but struggled badly against Simpson and took an alarming number of shots against Selby. Proved his heart but where's his boxing gone?

I think he needs to think very carefully about the future and somehow get himself boxing again - footwork, jab, head movement; wars like that dont suit him and will have him out the sport pretty sharpish, in my humble opinion.

great post couldnt agree more

I can't understand why some have decided to round on Gallagher. His stable was on a tremendous run, I don't see what's wrong with them basking in their collective success - they all work hard and if you can't acknowledge and celebrate the good times what's the point? I would hope that Lee Selby's team similarly bask in the glory of Lee's superb win at the weekend.

Gallagher's a very good and knowledgeable trainer. I don't see why he should take the bulk of criticism for Stephen Smith's performance on Saturday night. I was disappointed with Smith in both of his fights with John Simpson and even then he looked a long way short of the supposed world class force some argued he was. The signs were there that Smith either a) wasn't as good as some suspected or b) needed to work on several aspects of his game long before Selby got to him.

For every Stephen Smith there's also an Anthony Crolla, who few would argue that Gallagher hasn't done an excellent job with him.

Ben Carey wrote:I can't understand why some have decided to round on Gallagher. His stable was on a tremendous run, I don't see what's wrong with them basking in their collective success - they all work hard and if you can't acknowledge and celebrate the good times what's the point? I would hope that Lee Selby's team similarly bask in the glory of Lee's superb win at the weekend.

Gallagher's a very good and knowledgeable trainer. I don't see why he should take the bulk of criticism for Stephen Smith's performance on Saturday night. I was disappointed with Smith in both of his fights with John Simpson and even then he looked a long way short of the supposed world class force some argued he was. The signs were there that Smith either a) wasn't as good as some suspected or b) needed to work on several aspects of his game long before Selby got to him.

For every Stephen Smith there's also an Anthony Crolla, who few would argue that Gallagher hasn't done an excellent job with him.

its about styles smiths doesnt seem to gel with gallaghers

Very few boxers actually have a plan B, and the ones that do are usually at the top of the pro game.