British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Matthew Macklin
7. (7.) Brian Magee (Irish)
8. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
9. (8.) Kevin Mitchell
10. (9.) Rendall Munroe

11. (11.) Matthew Hatton
12. (12.) Ola Afolabi
13. (18.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
14. (13.) Kell Brook
15. (14.) Ryan Rhodes
16. (15.) John Murray
17. (16.) Darren Barker
18. (17.) Gavin Rees
19. (21.) John Simpson
20. (22.) Andy Lee (Irish)

21. (26.) Tyson Fury
22. (23.) George Groves
23. (24.) Ashley Theophane
24. (NE.) Gary Buckland
25. (NE.) Lee Selby
26. (NE.) Liam Walsh
27. (19.) Stuart Hall
28. (20.) Stephen Smith
29. (25.) Lee Purdy
30. (27.) Jason Booth

Out - (28.) Prince Arron
Out - (29.) James DeGale
Out - (30.) Anthony Crolla

[Horse]

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

[thunderfromdownunder]

i would put Andy lee higher

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

OK then, have these P4P lists become your life's work?


Your "War and Peace" or "Don Quixote"?

[Camcas]

Brook and Afolabi should be higher and Simpson lower. Apart from that good list

[Dan Dares]

i enjoy reading them - Nice one Horse. Bang on time again too.

[nelsoninfour]

Ricky Burns 5 p4p lets wait and see after the next fight.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

i enjoy reading them

I would have to agree, they easily in the top four or five British P4P lists currently being produced.

I am thankful that they refrain from the senseless racism and disgusting language that the other British P4P lists seem to use.

[Horse]

i would put Andy lee higher

If he beats Vera tonight I will put him a few places higher.

At the moment I don't think he really deserves to be much higher.

[Adam1991]

How can bellew not be in there?

[Horse]

OK then, have these P4P lists become your life's work?


Your "War and Peace" or "Don Quixote"?

Yes.

[Horse]

Who changed the name of this thread?

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Who changed the name of this thread?

Terry Marsh, I think.

[Horse]

Brook and Afolabi should be higher and Simpson lower. Apart from that good list

Brook's level of opposition has been disappointing, he hasn't fought at European level yet so he doesn't really deserve to be any higher. If he beats Jackiewicz he might enter the top 10.

Afolabi has just been having keep busy fights recently, so I don't think he should be in the top 10 until he starts fighting against a higher level of competition.

I thought Simpson was unlucky not to get the decision in the two Smith fights and he has beaten Lindsay within the last 12 months as well.

[stujones]

Not sure how a man who LOST CLOSE fights to Stephen Smith should be ahead of the man who just knocked him out. It wasn't a fluke result, Selby was winning the fight anyway.

[dutchie]

Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!

[whiskey]

Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!

For beating a journeyman (that had previously knocked him out) ?

Barker lost to the no1 in the division.

[llamalew]

Barker Rees and brook should be above hatton IMO

[dutchie]

Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!

For beating a journeyman (that had previously knocked him out) ?

Barker lost to the no1 in the division.

Lee is no.4 on boxrec ratings,wbc no.2,wba no2.
Barker not in top 20 in any,
I REST MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!

[slapbangwhallop]

Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!

For beating a journeyman (that had previously knocked him out) ?

Barker lost to the no1 in the division.

So getting knocked out by a guy that didnt take him too seriously is some kind of merit? I think you need a little perspective to be honest.

Vera is no journeyman, to suggest so it lunacy, he has beaten better guys than Barker ever has. What then does that make Barker?

Lee should be at #7 not #20

Saying that these rating are just a talking point and Dutchie you are probably best off doing your own if you want your opinion to prevail.

[Horse]

i enjoy reading them - Nice one Horse. Bang on time again too.

[Horse]

Ricky Burns 5 p4p lets wait and see after the next fight.

Do you think he is too high?

[Horse]

How can bellew not be in there?

I wasn't impressed with his points win against McKenzie. I thought the fighters who were at the bottom of the rankings deserved their places more than him.

[ShadrachSimmo]

Does Olusegun qualify for the ratings as a former British champ?

[Horse]

Not sure how a man who LOST CLOSE fights to Stephen Smith should be ahead of the man who just knocked him out. It wasn't a fluke result, Selby was winning the fight anyway.

Simpson has many good results on his record. Selby only really has the Smith win.