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British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Matthew Macklin
7. (7.) Brian Magee (Irish)
8. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
9. (8.) Kevin Mitchell
10. (9.) Rendall Munroe
11. (11.) Matthew Hatton
12. (12.) Ola Afolabi
13. (18.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
14. (13.) Kell Brook
15. (14.) Ryan Rhodes
16. (15.) John Murray
17. (16.) Darren Barker
18. (17.) Gavin Rees
19. (21.) John Simpson
20. (22.) Andy Lee (Irish)
21. (26.) Tyson Fury
22. (23.) George Groves
23. (24.) Ashley Theophane
24. (NE.) Gary Buckland
25. (NE.) Lee Selby
26. (NE.) Liam Walsh
27. (19.) Stuart Hall
28. (20.) Stephen Smith
29. (25.) Lee Purdy
30. (27.) Jason Booth
Out - (28.) Prince Arron
Out - (29.) James DeGale
Out - (30.) Anthony Crolla
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 20:01
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 22:57
by thunderfromdownunder
i would put Andy lee higher
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 23:24
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Horse wrote:Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
OK then, have these P4P lists become your life's work?
Your "War and Peace" or "Don Quixote"?
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 04:24
by Camcas
Brook and Afolabi should be higher and Simpson lower. Apart from that good list

Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 07:03
by Dan Dares
i enjoy reading them - Nice one Horse. Bang on time again too.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 11:59
by nelsoninfour
Ricky Burns 5 p4p lets wait and see after the next fight.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 12:15
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Dan Dares wrote:i enjoy reading them
I would have to agree, they easily in the top four or five British P4P lists currently being produced.
I am thankful that they refrain from the senseless racism and disgusting language that the other British P4P lists seem to use.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 16:51
by Horse
thunderfromdownunder wrote:i would put Andy lee higher
If he beats Vera tonight I will put him a few places higher.
At the moment I don't think he really deserves to be much higher.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 16:53
by Adam1991
How can bellew not be in there?
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 09:37
by Horse
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:OK then, have these P4P lists become your life's work?
Your "War and Peace" or "Don Quixote"?
Yes.
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 10:31
by Horse
Who changed the name of this thread?
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 03 Oct 2011, 12:52
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Horse wrote:Who changed the name of this thread?
Terry Marsh, I think.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 03 Oct 2011, 18:16
by Horse
Camcas wrote:Brook and Afolabi should be higher and Simpson lower. Apart from that good list

Brook's level of opposition has been disappointing, he hasn't fought at European level yet so he doesn't really deserve to be any higher. If he beats Jackiewicz he might enter the top 10.
Afolabi has just been having keep busy fights recently, so I don't think he should be in the top 10 until he starts fighting against a higher level of competition.
I thought Simpson was unlucky not to get the decision in the two Smith fights and he has beaten Lindsay within the last 12 months as well.
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 04 Oct 2011, 04:35
by stujones
Not sure how a man who LOST CLOSE fights to Stephen Smith should be ahead of the man who just knocked him out. It wasn't a fluke result, Selby was winning the fight anyway.
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 04 Oct 2011, 15:44
by dutchie
Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 04 Oct 2011, 16:16
by whiskey
dutchie wrote:Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!
For beating a journeyman (that had previously knocked him out) ?
Barker lost to the no1 in the division.
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 04 Oct 2011, 16:56
by llamalew
Barker Rees and brook should be above hatton IMO
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 04 Oct 2011, 19:22
by dutchie
G0mez wrote:dutchie wrote:Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!
For beating a journeyman (that had previously knocked him out) ?
Barker lost to the no1 in the division.
Lee is no.4 on boxrec ratings,wbc no.2,wba no2.
Barker not in top 20 in any,
I REST MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 04 Oct 2011, 19:56
by slapbangwhallop
G0mez wrote:dutchie wrote:Barker above Lee before last weekend was a joke,!!!!
Now Lee has to be top 10!!!
For beating a journeyman (that had previously knocked him out) ?
Barker lost to the no1 in the division.
So getting knocked out by a guy that didnt take him too seriously is some kind of merit? I think you need a little perspective to be honest.
Vera is no journeyman, to suggest so it lunacy, he has beaten better guys than Barker ever has. What then does that make Barker?
Lee should be at #7 not #20
Saying that these rating are just a talking point and Dutchie you are probably best off doing your own if you want your opinion to prevail.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 05 Oct 2011, 09:16
by Horse
Dan Dares wrote:i enjoy reading them - Nice one Horse. Bang on time again too.

Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 05 Oct 2011, 09:17
by Horse
nelsoninfour wrote:Ricky Burns 5 p4p lets wait and see after the next fight.
Do you think he is too high?
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 05 Oct 2011, 09:20
by Horse
Adam1991 wrote:How can bellew not be in there?
I wasn't impressed with his points win against McKenzie. I thought the fighters who were at the bottom of the rankings deserved their places more than him.
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 05 Oct 2011, 11:29
by ShadrachSimmo
Does Olusegun qualify for the ratings as a former British champ?
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P October 2011
Posted: 05 Oct 2011, 13:00
by Horse
stujones wrote:Not sure how a man who LOST CLOSE fights to Stephen Smith should be ahead of the man who just knocked him out. It wasn't a fluke result, Selby was winning the fight anyway.
Simpson has many good results on his record. Selby only really has the Smith win.