I just think Canelo will be too busy, coupled with the fact that Floyd is on the way down and there can only be one result.
Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
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keithmoonhangover
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Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Been off the forum for a bit, so I'm coming out swinging on this one.
I just think Canelo will be too busy, coupled with the fact that Floyd is on the way down and there can only be one result.
I just think Canelo will be too busy, coupled with the fact that Floyd is on the way down and there can only be one result.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Mayweather would tee off on Alvarez, it would be Gatti like, almost. Wont happen though as Mayweather wont fight him at 154, he prefers teeing off on the little guys.
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Quixall
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Totally agree with this. I guess me and you will never get to be movie stars when Keithmoonhangover hit's hollywood now though :(Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
It's the price we have to pay Yidyid14 wrote:Totally agree with this. I guess me and you will never get to be movie stars when Keithmoonhangover hit's hollywood now though :(Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
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Quixall
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
That is nonsense Keith.............keithmoonhangover wrote:Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Hopkins is 46 and still producing great displays !! The fact that Mayweather isn't particularly active and hasn't had many hard fights mean that he is fresh at 34 years of age. None of his recent performances suggest in any way that his skills are slipping, none at all, his skills remain undiminished. I think it may be wishfull thinking on your part keith.
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Mayweather won't go anywhere near canelo IMO, he's to big
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.Quixall wrote:That is nonsense Keith.............keithmoonhangover wrote:Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Hopkins is 46 and still producing great displays !! The fact that Mayweather isn't particularly active and hasn't had many hard fights mean that he is fresh at 34 years of age. None of his recent performances suggest in any way that his skills are slipping, none at all, his skills remain undiminished. I think it may be wishfull thinking on your part keith.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Well I agree, it's tough fight for Floyd.
Canelo destroyed Rhodes, who ain't a small light-middle himself.
I remember Floyd arguably losing to Castillo when he moved up and challenged the WBC at 135lb , we're talking 154lb and he is massive at the weight on the night.
He's no baldomir !
Canelo destroyed Rhodes, who ain't a small light-middle himself.
I remember Floyd arguably losing to Castillo when he moved up and challenged the WBC at 135lb , we're talking 154lb and he is massive at the weight on the night.
He's no baldomir !
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Datsue
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
If I may interject: no, he is not in his prime (which he spent with his feet up sipping Cristal & throwing dollar bills at poor people).
However, he does not need to be anywhere near his prime to deal with a one-dimensional, slow, prospect-at-best who has yet to be within a million fvcking miles of a fifty-fifty fight.
Add to the fact that I think Canelo couldn't hit the current version of Floyd with a handful of gravel, mate, & I really cannot imagine what has made you post this other than maybe concussion or DMT.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.Datsue wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
If I may interject: no, he is not in his prime (which he spent with his feet up sipping Cristal & throwing dollar bills at poor people).
However, he does not need to be anywhere near his prime to deal with a one-dimensional, slow, prospect-at-best who has yet to be within a million fvcking miles of a fifty-fifty fight.
Add to the fact that I think Canelo couldn't hit the current version of Floyd with a handful of gravel, mate, & I really cannot imagine what has made you post this other than maybe concussion or DMT.
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
G0mez wrote:Well I agree, it's tough fight for Floyd.
Canelo destroyed Rhodes, who ain't a small light-middle himself.
I remember Floyd arguably losing to Castillo when he moved up and challenged the WBC at 135lb , we're talking 154lb and he is massive at the weight on the night.
He's no baldomir !
Oh aye, tough fight in that he'd get hit back & probably marked up & shaken once or twice, yes, comparatively speaking it's a tough fight, but fuck me you've just said that a kid who beat Ryan Rhodes (no offence meant, lovely fella etc etc) in a competent, unspectacular wearing-down sort of job is more than capable of fighting Floyd bloody Mayweather...
If, if, if Alvarez had sparko'd Ryan in twenty seconds flat or shut him out without Ryan laying a glove on him, & then Alvarez had followed that up by beating the shite out of Cotto & maybe that K9 bloke who has (had? Light-middle is one of those depressing divisions where I can't even be bothered to keep up with who has what, these days) the IBF strap, then maybe I could kinda maybe see where you're coming from. Even if Alvarez had beaten who he's actually beaten but was Vernon Forrest tall & rangy, like, with a classically long powerful left lead & a thunderbolt of a straight right, then yes, I'd give him a chance.
But here on Earth One, I cannot see Alvarez beating Floyd until Floyd's about fifty.
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?keithmoonhangover wrote: Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.Datsue wrote:So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?keithmoonhangover wrote: Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
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Quixall
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
I wouldn't say that Floyd is in his prime, but the percentage that he has slipped from what anyone would consider was his prime is less than 10% IMO. I don't believe that he will fight canello, but if he did, he would be too savvy, too quick, for the young guy. From what i have seen of Canello, i would say he looks pretty one dimensional, comes forward and looks quite easy to hit. Floyd has maintined his sharpness, you could see that against Ortiz, Marquez and Mosley. People will always look for things about Floyd that aren't there and i believe he has at least another 18 months before his skills will decline.keithmoonhangover wrote:Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.Quixall wrote:That is nonsense Keith.............keithmoonhangover wrote: Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.
Hopkins is 46 and still producing great displays !! The fact that Mayweather isn't particularly active and hasn't had many hard fights mean that he is fresh at 34 years of age. None of his recent performances suggest in any way that his skills are slipping, none at all, his skills remain undiminished. I think it may be wishfull thinking on your part keith.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Its arguable that Mayweather is peaking in imo. His last few performances have been outstanding.
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Quixall
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."keithmoonhangover wrote:He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.Datsue wrote:So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?keithmoonhangover wrote: Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.Quixall wrote:"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."keithmoonhangover wrote:He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.Datsue wrote: So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one matekeithmoonhangover wrote:Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.Quixall wrote:"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."keithmoonhangover wrote: He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
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You ain't even gonna be an extraQuixall wrote:But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one matekeithmoonhangover wrote:Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.Quixall wrote: "He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
lolyid14 wrote:You ain't even gonna be an extraQuixall wrote:But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one matekeithmoonhangover wrote: Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.
In a few years, I'm gonna make a movie about Stanley Ketchel, and you'll all be invited to be extras.
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
keithmoonhangover wrote:lolyid14 wrote:You ain't even gonna be an extraQuixall wrote: But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one mate
In a few years, I'm gonna make a movie about Stanley Ketchel, and you'll all be invited to be extras.
Wasn't he the middleweight who for Johnson for the heavyweight title ?
Yid, i'm asking this question for you and me !! It will please Keith to answer this and he will then give us parts !!
Hey, you could even be playing Ketchel 8)
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Yes, he fought Johnson, Quix. Ketchel earned $250,000 in his career and spent most of it before being shot and killed at age 23. He liked 'fast living' opium, whisky and women. In 2004, Ring magazine named Ketchel #6 on their list of best punchers of all time.Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:lolyid14 wrote: You ain't even gonna be an extra
In a few years, I'm gonna make a movie about Stanley Ketchel, and you'll all be invited to be extras.
Wasn't he the middleweight who for Johnson for the heavyweight title ?
Yid, i'm asking this question for you and me !! It will please Keith to answer this and he will then give us parts !!
Hey, you could even be playing Ketchel 8)
James McAvoy is my first choice actor, but Yid is a close second. ;;-)