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Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 15:47
by keithmoonhangover
Been off the forum for a bit, so I'm coming out swinging on this one.
I just think Canelo will be too busy, coupled with the fact that Floyd is on the way down and there can only be one result.

Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 16:14
by ALI
Mayweather would tee off on Alvarez, it would be Gatti like, almost. Wont happen though as Mayweather wont fight him at 154, he prefers teeing off on the little guys.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 16:17
by Quixall
Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 16:20
by Craig14
Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Totally agree with this. I guess me and you will never get to be movie stars when Keithmoonhangover hit's hollywood now though :(
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 16:31
by Quixall
yid14 wrote:Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Totally agree with this. I guess me and you will never get to be movie stars when Keithmoonhangover hit's hollywood now though :(
It's the price we have to pay Yid
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Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:10
by keithmoonhangover
Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:19
by Quixall
keithmoonhangover wrote:Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.
That is nonsense Keith.............
Hopkins is 46 and still producing great displays !! The fact that Mayweather isn't particularly active and hasn't had many hard fights mean that he is fresh at 34 years of age. None of his recent performances suggest in any way that his skills are slipping, none at all, his skills remain undiminished. I think it may be wishfull thinking on your part keith.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:28
by Bennyblanco
Mayweather won't go anywhere near canelo IMO, he's to big
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:31
by Datsue
Loses? What, his wallet?
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:32
by keithmoonhangover
Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Quixall wrote:Welcome back Keith..............
Some news for you mate
1. Mayweather is nowhere near goind down hill
2. Alverez would get pot-shotted and countered all night long
Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.
That is nonsense Keith.............
Hopkins is 46 and still producing great displays !! The fact that Mayweather isn't particularly active and hasn't had many hard fights mean that he is fresh at 34 years of age. None of his recent performances suggest in any way that his skills are slipping, none at all, his skills remain undiminished. I think it may be wishfull thinking on your part keith.
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:36
by whiskey
Well I agree, it's tough fight for Floyd.
Canelo destroyed Rhodes, who ain't a small light-middle himself.
I remember Floyd arguably losing to Castillo when he moved up and challenged the WBC at 135lb , we're talking 154lb and he is massive at the weight on the night.
He's no baldomir !
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:37
by Datsue
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
If I may interject: no, he is not in his prime (which he spent with his feet up sipping Cristal & throwing dollar bills at poor people).
However, he does not need to be anywhere
near his prime to deal with a one-dimensional, slow, prospect-at-best who has yet to be within a million fvcking miles of a fifty-fifty fight.
Add to the fact that I think Canelo couldn't hit the current version of Floyd with a handful of gravel, mate, & I really cannot imagine what has made you post this other than maybe concussion or DMT.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:42
by keithmoonhangover
Datsue wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
If I may interject: no, he is not in his prime (which he spent with his feet up sipping Cristal & throwing dollar bills at poor people).
However, he does not need to be anywhere
near his prime to deal with a one-dimensional, slow, prospect-at-best who has yet to be within a million fvcking miles of a fifty-fifty fight.
Add to the fact that I think Canelo couldn't hit the current version of Floyd with a handful of gravel, mate, & I really cannot imagine what has made you post this other than maybe concussion or DMT.
Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:43
by Datsue
G0mez wrote:Well I agree, it's tough fight for Floyd.
Canelo destroyed Rhodes, who ain't a small light-middle himself.
I remember Floyd arguably losing to Castillo when he moved up and challenged the WBC at 135lb , we're talking 154lb and he is massive at the weight on the night.
He's no baldomir !
Oh aye, tough fight in that he'd get hit back & probably marked up & shaken once or twice, yes, comparatively speaking it's a tough fight, but fu
ck me you've just said that a kid who beat
Ryan Rhodes (no offence meant, lovely fella etc etc) in a competent, unspectacular wearing-down sort of job is more than capable of fighting Floyd bloody Mayweather...
If, if,
if Alvarez had sparko'd Ryan in twenty seconds flat or shut him out without Ryan laying a glove on him, & then Alvarez had followed that up by beating the shite out of Cotto & maybe that K9 bloke who has (had? Light-middle is one of those depressing divisions where I can't even be bothered to keep up with who has what, these days) the IBF strap, then maybe I could kinda maybe see where you're coming from. Even if Alvarez had beaten who he's actually beaten but was Vernon Forrest tall & rangy, like, with a classically long powerful left lead & a thunderbolt of a straight right, then yes, I'd give him a chance.
But here on Earth One, I cannot see Alvarez beating Floyd until Floyd's about fifty.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:45
by Datsue
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:50
by keithmoonhangover
Datsue wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:07
by Quixall
keithmoonhangover wrote:Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Mayweather is past his prime Quixall. He's 34, not very active and well above the weight he should be fighting at.
That is nonsense Keith.............
Hopkins is 46 and still producing great displays !! The fact that Mayweather isn't particularly active and hasn't had many hard fights mean that he is fresh at 34 years of age. None of his recent performances suggest in any way that his skills are slipping, none at all, his skills remain undiminished. I think it may be wishfull thinking on your part keith.
Hopkins is producing good performances, but him and Mayweather are two different people.
Do you honestly think that Mayweather is still at his best/in his prime?
I wouldn't say that Floyd is in his prime, but the percentage that he has slipped from what anyone would consider was his prime is less than 10% IMO. I don't believe that he will fight canello, but if he did, he would be too savvy, too quick, for the young guy. From what i have seen of Canello, i would say he looks pretty one dimensional, comes forward and looks quite easy to hit. Floyd has maintined his sharpness, you could see that against Ortiz, Marquez and Mosley. People will always look for things about Floyd that aren't there and i believe he has at least another 18 months before his skills will decline.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:09
by Trojans44
Its arguable that Mayweather is peaking in imo. His last few performances have been outstanding.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:13
by Quixall
keithmoonhangover wrote:Datsue wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Mayweather will lose on points, Canelo is the future my good man and Floyd is going to have a rude awakening. He looked beatable in the Oscar fight and that was nearly 5 years ago. Alvarez will walk in the ring with a big weight advantage and it will be a close fight, but he will win.
So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:19
by keithmoonhangover
Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Datsue wrote:
So, let me indulge you: how will the short, short-armed, not particularly speedy, relatively easy-to-hit guy without true one-punch stopping power or a really long fast jab, exactly how will this fella you are talking about be outpointing Mayweather, pray?
Or are we perhaps talking about some other Alvarez that I haven't seen?
He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:27
by Quixall
keithmoonhangover wrote:Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
He will outwork him and win a decision. He's younger, hungrier and also, he is improving.
Floyd is not in his prime, so he is, as I originally said, on the way down.
"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.
But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one mate

Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:28
by Craig14
Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Quixall wrote:
"He's young, he's hungrier and also improving........."
Come on Keith, Datsue asked for reasons, not bland statements that could apply to a thousand fighters
Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.
But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one mate

You ain't even gonna be an extra

Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:35
by keithmoonhangover
yid14 wrote:Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Bland or not, that's what I believe. He will throw a load more punches than Floyd and some of them will get threw, he will out muscle him.
But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one mate

You ain't even gonna be an extra

lol
In a few years, I'm gonna make a movie about Stanley Ketchel, and you'll all be invited to be extras.
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:38
by Quixall
keithmoonhangover wrote:yid14 wrote:Quixall wrote:
But Oscar didn't out muscle him and that was at 154lbs. Well, we all have our opinions Keith, so we will just have to differ on this one mate

You ain't even gonna be an extra

lol
In a few years, I'm gonna make a movie about Stanley Ketchel, and you'll all be invited to be extras.
Wasn't he the middleweight who for Johnson for the heavyweight title ?
Yid, i'm asking this question for you and me !! It will please Keith to answer this and he will then give us parts !!
Hey, you could even be playing Ketchel 8)
Re: Mayweather Loses If He Fights Canelo Alvarez.
Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 18:45
by keithmoonhangover
Quixall wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:yid14 wrote:
You ain't even gonna be an extra

lol
In a few years, I'm gonna make a movie about Stanley Ketchel, and you'll all be invited to be extras.
Wasn't he the middleweight who for Johnson for the heavyweight title ?
Yid, i'm asking this question for you and me !! It will please Keith to answer this and he will then give us parts !!
Hey, you could even be playing Ketchel 8)
Yes, he fought Johnson, Quix. Ketchel earned $250,000 in his career and spent most of it before being shot and killed at age 23. He liked 'fast living' opium, whisky and women. In 2004, Ring magazine named Ketchel #6 on their list of best punchers of all time.
James McAvoy is my first choice actor, but Yid is a close second. ;;-)