Control and discipline - governing bodies

[dalcumly]

In this country the BBB of C are the regulators . Sometimes they may get their decisions wrong ,but this I would argue is very rare indeed . In order to govern the sport they have to be seen to be in control and if their decisions are ignored , or circumvented , then there must be enforceable sanctions applied or they will simply lose control and credibility . If this didn't happen there would be anarchy ,and unlicensed , or unregulated boxing would become the norm .
With this in mind the expected announcement tomorrow of a summer fight in London between Haye and Chisora will lead to a very interesting response from the Board . The promoter realises that Chisora v Haye is probably the biggest fight out there and that a lot of money can be made .But what will be the long term cost to boxing in this country ??
Apparently a Burns v Mitchell fight will be on the undercard . If the Board decide that ANY LICENCE HOLDER involved in the promotion will face suspension ,which is a feasible option , how would you like to be the trainer , second , cutman or manager of either fighter ?? Not to mention a referee , judge , timekeeper , doctor ,anaesthestist or whip ???
In addition , if the promotion is not sanctioned by the BBB of C , would the WBO still get involved ???
Really worrying times ahead for boxing in this country .

[safeerah]

In this country the BBB of C are the regulators . Sometimes they may get their decisions wrong ,but this I would argue is very rare indeed . In order to govern the sport they have to be seen to be in control and if their decisions are ignored , or circumvented , then there must be enforceable sanctions applied or they will simply lose control and credibility . If this didn't happen there would be anarchy ,and unlicensed , or unregulated boxing would become the norm .
With this in mind the expected announcement tomorrow of a summer fight in London between Haye and Chisora will lead to a very interesting response from the Board . The promoter realises that Chisora v Haye is probably the biggest fight out there and that a lot of money can be made .But what will be the long term cost to boxing in this country ??
Apparently a Burns v Mitchell fight will be on the undercard . If the Board decide that ANY LICENCE HOLDER involved in the promotion will face suspension ,which is a feasible option , how would you like to be the trainer , second , cutman or manager of either fighter ?? Not to mention a referee , judge , timekeeper , doctor ,anaesthestist or whip ???
In addition , if the promotion is not sanctioned by the BBB of C , would the WBO still get involved ???
Really worrying times ahead for boxing in this country .

The promoter will get away with it because of European court laws, that will over rule any BBB of C decision on the matter, based on restrictions on earning a living by all parties involved in the show, but the BBB of C may sanction it anyway as it involves one of the biggest promoters and refusal could see the promoter breaking away from the governing body which would have real ramifications to the industry in this country, bearing in mind the amount of boxers the Promoter has and the amount of big shows the promoter does each year, not to mention they have a major boxing channel used by most of the people in the industry. The promoters in this country have had too much power in this country for some time.

[dalcumly]

Safeerah raises an issue which was the main reason why I think this is a worrying situation . That is the possibility of the promoter and his associates creating their own organisation should the BBB of C go against them .
I think that if this was to happen professional boxing in this country would collapse , because it would be proof that money alone was dictating policy decisions . The Board members , as you know , receive no income , so they make decisions based simply on what they believe is right . Any new governing body , linked to any single promoter , or promoters , could not separate their decisions from a financial bias towards their 'paymasters ' .

[safeerah]

http://www.BS.com/time-bbboc-k ... tes--52544

This is my take on the BBBoC's "power". They are here to regulare, but can't really do a great deal to settle certain types of disputes and there's a perception, rightly or wrongly, that their processes are time wasting excercises that injure the fighters as time is precious to them.

I don't think Haye-Chis will be announced on Tues.

A good article, Interesting the part about boxer manager contract disputes, how uneven the process is i.e Promoters/Managers advantages on contract understanding, money, time, contacts and positions of power. The BBB of C are too reliant on the promoters, they don't even have a ranking system for tiitles and sometimes Eliminators are not worth the paper they are written on, Matthew Hall beat Kris Carslaw easily in an eliminator for the british title, but who gets to fight for the title ? Carslaw, the same happened with Sam Webb and mcdonagh for Anthony Smalls title, these are just two examples of many. Promoters dictate who fights for titles and who is nominated for Area awards, though the BBBB of C and thier councils make the final decisions on recomendations and offers recieved by the promoters and managers. With regards to disputes remember Joe Calzaghe he won in court but what happened next, did he get payed out ? and what did the board do about the final outcome ? What could they do ?