2012 AIBA Women's World Championships

[emile]

Almost ready to go in China. Pre weigh-ins, there are 343 boxers signed up from 77 countries.

http://www.aiba.org/en-US/news/ozqsp/ne ... /news.aspx

[mike222]

I have to admit that qualification is confusing me.For the three Olympic weights there seem to be eight places available but each continents quota is limited to 4 per weight and one of those could be for a developing nation.So the only way you can be assured of qualifying is to finish in the top three.However Africa for example may not get one quarter-finalist but they are likely to get invites in that case.To confuse even more Wikipedia detail a completely different qualifying procedure.
Now the seeding which is haphazard as usual-no seeding for Claressa Shields or Sofia Ochigawa which means Englands top middleweight Savannah Marshall will take on Shields in the prelims.At Flyweight Nicola Adams may have to get past the brilliant Indian Marykom in the quarters as she is only ranked 7.
Anyway my selections for the Olympic weights are listed for the top 8
112LBS
1 Chungnenang Marykom IND 7
2 Ren Ren Can CHN 1
3 Elena Saveleva RUS 3
4 Peanwilai Laopeam
5 Nicola Adams ENG 2
6 Shipra Engelke SWE
7 Mandy Bujold CAN
8 Karolina Michalczuk POL 4
132LBS
1 Katie Taylor IRE 1
2 Sofia Ochigawa RUS
3 Tassamelee Thongyan THA 4
4 Gulsum Tatar TUR 2
5 Deniysa Eliseya BUL 8
6 Adriana Araujo BRA 6
7 Karolina Graczyk POL 5
8 Queen Underwood USA 7
165LBS
1 Claressa Shields USA
2 Mary Spencer CAN 1
3 Nadaezhda Torlopova RUS 2
4 Elena Vystropova AZE
5 Li Jinzhi CHN 3
6 Maria Kovacs HUN 8
7 Noucha Fontlin HOL 7
8 Liliya Durnyeva UKR 5
Non Olympic weights to follow.
Numbers afterwards are seedings

[mike222]

My non-Olympic weights pics
106LBS
1 Svetlana Gnevanova RUS 2
2 Kim Myung NOR KOR
3 Nazym Kazibay KAZ
3 Bolor Tumurkhuyag MGL 3
119LBS
1 Alexsandra Kulesheva RUS
2 Ivanna Krupenia UKR
3 Liu Keija CHN 3
3 Csilla Nemedi HUN 5
125LBS
1 Viktoria Gurkovich RUS
2 Kim Ok Kim NOR KOR 4
3 Lisa Whiteside ENG 3
3 Mandakini Chann IND
141LBS
1 Daria Abramova RUS
2 Pak Kyong NOR KOR
3 Mikaela Mayer USA 2
3 Uyanga Erdenesoyol MGL 1
152 LBS
1 Marichelle De Jong HOL 1
2 Wang Donmei CHN
3 Maria Badlkujina UKR 4
3 Myriam De Silva CAN 3
178 LBS
1 Timea Nagy HUN 2
2 Yuan Meiqing CHN 1
3 Svetlana Kosova RUS
3 Dariga Shakimova KAZ
+178LBS
1 Li Yunfei CHN 1
2 Semsi Yarali TUR 2
3 Yulduz Mamatkulova KAZ
3 Irina Sineyskaya
Number afterwards is the seeding

[emile]

Based on the athlete bios posted, the 3 Olympic weights are going to be massive. There are 64 entrants at 60kg, 59 at 51kg, and I think like 46 at 75kg. I'm kind of excited about that.

[emile]

Finally figured out how to look at the draw sheets, but the live tracker doesn't seem to be working yet.

In the Olympic weights:
http://88.85.4.2/results-draw-sheet05151_E.html
http://88.85.4.2/results-draw-sheet06060_E.html
http://88.85.4.2/results-draw-sheet07575_E.html

Claressa Shields' draw was to be the most interesting, with her recent publicity and not being seeded. She opens against Pooja Rani of India, then Savannah Marshall of England if she wins. The winner of that would then fight Norway or Kenya for a spot in the last 8.

EDIT - sorry mike, see you already had this all figured out

[mike222]

Results of English speaking boxers today-All prelims
125 Melissa Guillermette CAN 15-7 S Mahmoud DEN
Chen Chia-Ling TPE 16-5 S Nicholson AUS
Yulia Tsiplakova UKR 18-7 M O Neill NZL
152 Raquel Miller USA 17-8 Daena Stephenson NZL

[fighterdad]

Just want to say thanks Mike222 and Emile for the great info and updates. You guys are awesome. I'm Mikaela Mayers dad @141, silver medalist at the Olympic trials. Thanks...
Mark M

P.s. you have your predictions wrong for 141

[mike222]

Mikaela is seeded 2 so I hope she wins but a couple of the Asians stand in her way.Some experience for her being in China-she will never forget that.
Day 2 results include

112 KIM Hye 8-6 Mandy Bujold CAN
Luu Thi VIE 18-12 Shipra Engelke SWE
Ceire Smith IRE STP Veglina Svetlana TRK
132 Erika Cruz MEX 15-10 Sandra Bizier CAN
Queen Underwood USA 24-13 Dyanna Sanchez ARG
Natasha Jonas ENG 18-8 Rebecca Price WAL
165 Claressa Shields USA 27-10 Pooji Rana IND
Hurricane Doyle NZL STP Jang Un PRK
She has to be something with that name-stopping a North Korean is impressive
Francellis Carmona VEN 23-19 Sinead Kavanagh IRE

[mike222]

Day 2 results include
112LBS Nicola Adams (2) ENG 19-7 Yana Levankova BLR
Marlen Esparza (8) USA 20-10 Pamela Benavides ARG
Ceire Smith IRE 12-4 Sarah Rey JAM
Elena Savelyeva (3) 19-8 Chieh Pin Meng TPE
Kim Yeji KOR 17-8 Steluta Duta (6)
Chungeng Marykom (7) IND 20-9 Ayako Minowa
Ren Ren Can (1) 16-4 Katalina Ancsin HUN
Sarah Ourahmoune FRA 21-11 Tatyana Kob (5) UKR
Karolina Michalczuk (4) 16-14 Sumeyra Yazici TUR
Delphin Mancini FRA 20-16 Ayse Tas (1) TUR
119LBS Vicky Pelettier CAN 23-15 Debra Rengifo VEN
Chemeka Johnson AUS 22-12 Ruth Odongo KEN
Christina Cruz USA (8)22-8 Nicole Michel SUI
Keija Liu (3) CHN 15-6 Gulzhan Akimova KAZ
Alice Aparri PHI 15-11 Cleila Costa (4)BRA
Csilla Nemedi (5) HUN 14-13 Juliana Soderstrom SWE
Sandra Drabik (6) POL STP Sadaf Rahemi AFG
Elena Walendzig GER 18-9 Sonia Lather (7) IND
Lu Thi (2) VIE 25-7 Felice Groves JAM
5 Seeds have lost today so far

[mike222]

Sunday Evening results include
141LBS Shelley Watts AUS 24-9 Sara Kali CAN
Laura Matthews NZL 38-16 Judit Barbosa ESP
152LBS Raquel Miller USA 18-18 Myriam De Silva (3) CAN
Good win for Miller reversing her loss in the Pan Ams on countback
Irene Poteyeva RUS 13-10 Lauren Price (2) WAL
2 More seeds bite the dust

[mike222]

Some big big surprises today as World champions tumble out
125LBS Lisa Whiteside (3) WAL 19-6 Nana Yoshikawa JAP
Yulia Tsiplokova UKR 19-16 Melissa Guillemette CAN
Sandra Kruk (2) POL 24-19 Viktoria Gurkovich UKR
Tiara Brown (1) USA 21-16 M Kangabam IND
132LBS Natasha Jonas ENG 23-11 Sandra Brugger SWI
Laishram Devi IND 14-13 Gulsum Tatar (2) TUR-Shock
Chong Deng (3) CHN 18-7 Erika Cruz MEX
Queen Underwood (7) 28-9 Alexis Pritchard NZL
Katie Taylor IRE (1) 19-6 Rim Jouini TUN
165 Savannah Marshall (6) ENG 14-8 Claressa Shields USA
Noucha Fontlin (7) HOL 22-13 Hurricane Doyle NZL
Nadezda Torlopova (2) RUS 25-10 E Ogoke KEN
Anna Laurell SWE 18-11 Mary Spencer CAN (1)-Shock
Andrea Strohmaier GER 13-13 Maria Kovacs (8) HUN
Elena Vystropova AZE 17-12 Roseli Feitosa (4) BRA
178 Franchon Crews USA 22-8 S Delarue FRA
China.Britain,US(Apart from Shields) doing well

[mike222]

Three Quarter final lines up confirmed- winners guaranteed a World Championship medal
Include the following
57kg Tiara Brown USA v J Qin CHN
Lisa Whiteside WAL v Y Tsiplokova UKR
69KG Rachel Miller USA v B Karabulut TUR
81KG Franchon Crews USA v D Shakimova KAZ
Above not Olympic weights

[emile]

It's a shame for Shields, in that a lot of expectations had been placed on her, and so the disappointment and embarrassment of losing is going to be tough for such a young person. Hopefully she can use it to get better.

The continental fighters Shields built her reputation on - Spencer and Feitosa - also both lost, so the Europeans are showing well at this weight.

[JMac]

It's a shame for Shields, in that a lot of expectations had been placed on her, and so the disappointment and embarrassment of losing is going to be tough for such a young person. Hopefully she can use it to get better.

The continental fighters Shields built her reputation on - Spencer and Feitosa - also both lost, so the Europeans are showing well at this weight.

It's all about the fundamentals. I feel that currently, European boxers both male and female have better fundamentals which comes from good coaching and the training of coaches.
On a side note, does anyone know if the US has an official in China? Looking at the results of the bouts, I don't see a US official working any bouts and it will be unbelievable if they don't have an official there. smh

[mike222]

In the Olympic weights there are 48 boxers remaining,as follows
Europe 26
Asia 16
Americas 5
Oceania 1
Bearing in mind the most Europe can have is 12,it is conceivable that all the American boxers will qualify and certainly one more win for Esparza and Underwood pretty much seals their place.
I think you might be a little harsh on boxers outside of Europe-Ren Ren Can,Marykom,LI Jinzhi.Spencer and Feitosa are all current world champions and multi title winners and European world champion Tatar also lost today.

[T Duquette]

So does that mean that Clarissa Sheilds can still qualify?

[emile]

I think you might be a little harsh on boxers outside of Europe-Ren Ren Can,Marykom,LI Jinzhi.Spencer and Feitosa are all current world champions and multi title winners and European world champion Tatar also lost today.

Yeah, I edited my post after my first draft was definitely reading too much into it. But at that weight, Europeans really took out the best of our continent.

Has it been figured out what the qualifying will be? I was still under the impression that the top 8 at each weight qualify automatically, and then four additional spots at each weight will be doled out to underrepresented continents.

Ah I see the wikipedia page has been updated - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_at_ ... lification

So all of Oceania's spots are already locked in and Africa has one so far. As I understand it then, with 2 Americas spots coming from placement at 75kg at this tournament, and 0 boxers from the America's left, those spots will be determined by who lost to the best finisher out of the 5 that advanced to the 2nd preliminary round. Which is:

Spencer (CAN) lost to Laurell (SWE) who faces Fidura (POL) next
Guillen (DOM) lost to Fidura (POL) who faces Laurell (SWE) next
Carmona (VEN) lost to Durnyeva (UKR) who faces Shen (TPE) next
Feitosa (BRA) lost to Vystropova (AZE) who faces Turcin (ROU) next
Shields (USA) lost to Marshall (ENG) who faces Lien (NOR) next

Since Fidura and Laurell fight, of Spencer and Guillen, one will be in good shape and the other will be out. Durnyeva is the highest seed of those, with Marshall 2nd.

At 75kg, Asia still has five fighters left for one spot. Africa also has one spot, and no fighters left - the spot will go Heijns of South Africa, Andiego of Kenya or Ogoke of Nigeria.

[emile]

To continue this analysis (sorry if its evident to everyone, I am just learning it):

at 60kg, the Americas get only one spot, and have two fighters left - Queen Underwood of the USA and Adriana dos Santos of Brazil. Asia has 7 remaining for 2 spots, Europe has 7 for 3 spots, and the African spot has 0 fighters left, leaving it for Rim Jouini of Tunisia - the only one to make the 2nd preliminary round.

at 51kg, there are three Americas fighters for two spots - Esparza of the USA, Erica dos Santos of Brazil, and Karlha Magliocco of Venezuela. Europe has 9 fighters for 3 spots, Asia has 4 fighters for 2 spots, and again Africa has lost all its entrants, leaving Ongare of Kenya and Rahali of Tunisia to wait and see who gets the spot.

[donnellon]

It'a a crazy scheme, we will have boxers safely into the Olympics boxing fighters who need the win, what a shambles!

[mike222]

This afternoons results include
48KGS
Xu Shiqi CHN 20-9 Lynsey Holdaway (1) WAL
Nazym Kazibay (4) KAZ 20-19 Alex Love USA
Josie Gabuco PHI DSQ Bolortuui Tumurkhuyag (3) MGL
Kim Klavel CAN 17-10 Derya Aktop TUR
Svetlana Gnevanova (2) RUS 19-9 Madoka Wada JAP
51KGS
Ren Ren Can (1) CHN 13-7 Azize Nimani GER
Marlen Esparza (8) USA 28-13 Luu Thi VIE
Stoyka Petrova BUL 21-15 Sarah Ourahmoune FRA
Karolina Michalczuk (4) POL STP Ceire Smith IRE
Elena Saveleva (2) RUS 35-2 Jana Juranova CZE
Kim Hye PRK 12-8 Erica Santos BRA
Chumenang Marykom IND (7) 18-6 Marielle Hansen NOR
Nicola Adams ENG (2) 20-7 Kartha Magliocco VEN
54KGS
Christina Cruz (8) USA 14-10 Shora Jahroni NOR
Terry Gordini ITA WDQ C Nemedi HUN
Lu Keija (3) CHN 19-10 Vicky Pelettier CAN
Sandra Drabik (6) 22-9 Chemeka Johnson AUS
60KGS
Katie Taylor (1) IRE STP Saida Khassenova KAZ
Michaela Lacatus ROM 17-14 Deniysa Eliseeva (8)
Mavsuna TJK STP Antonia Shevchenko KGZ
Estelle Mossely FRA 13-11 Tassamalee Thongjan (4) THA
Sofia Ochigava RUS 8-7 Dong Cheng CHN
Adriana Araujo (6) BRA 17-14 Ryu Yong PRK
Indrid Egner NOR 26-25 Queen Underwood (7) USA
Natasha Jonas ENG 25-22 Sarita Devi IND
So at 51 the last eight comprise 4 Europeans 3 Asians and 1 American so presumably Esparza and the three Asians will be in London
At 60 the composition is 6 Europeans 1 Asian and 1 Brazilian so presumablythe Brazilian and the girl from Tajikstan have booked their places

[mike222]

These appear to be the Qualifiers after this afternoons results
51KGS
Siona Fernandez NZL
Marlen Esparza USA
60KG
Adriana Araujo BRA
Alexis Pritchard NZL
Rim Jouini TUN
Mavsuna Choriewa TJK
75KGS
Naomi Fischer-Rasmussen AUS
Australia now have 11 and the USA 10 Qualifiers so far
Evening session now under way in China

[emile]

Asia has 2 spots at 51, so Cancan Ren, Mary Kom, and Kim Hye still need to keep winning. The winner of Petrova and Michalczuk will be guaranteed a spot, while the loser will still have a chance. Both of the African fighters' opponents lost, so I guess they have now transferred their hopes to new fighters. Marlen Esparza has clinched her spot, but is fighting against Cancan Ren and for the benefit of Christina Ongare of Kenya, I think. Magliocco and dos Santos are still in competition for the 2nd Americas spot.

Queen Underwood is out, since the Americas have only one spot at 60kg and it went to Araujo of Brazil.

At 75kg, only one of the five Americas hopefuls went out - Guillen. It seems like Edith Ogoke of Nigeria should have qualified. Perhaps Rabih of Morocco is still in it, even though she lost her first fight, because her opponent Strohmaier is still in it? Or perhaps they just haven't updated the wikipedia page yet.

[mike222]

This evenings winners
165LBS
Anna Laurell SWE
Andrea Strohmaier GER
Liliya Durnyeva UKR
Elena Vystropova AZE
Li Jinzi CHN
Savannah Marshall ENG
Marina Volnova KAZ
Nadezhda Torlopova RUS
Volnova and Jinzi qualify for London
141LBS
Uyanga Erdenesol MGL
Magdalena Stelmach POL
Daria Abramova RUS
Patricia Bergholt SWE
Kyong Pak PRK
Shelley Watts AUS
Meena Rani IND
Mikaela Mayer USA

[mike222]

Lest we forget there are world championship medals at stake as well as qualification
Winners of quarters are guaranteed medals
48KGS J Gabuco PHI v K Klavel CAN
51KGS R R Can CHN v M Esparza USA
N Adams ENG v C Marykom IND
54KGS C Cruz USA v S Satumrum THA
57KGS T Brown USA v J Qin CHN
L Whiteside ENG v Y Tsiplakova UKR
60KGS K Taylor IRE v M Lacatus ROM
N Jonas ENG v I Egner NOR
64 M Mayer USA v M Rani IND
69 R Miller USA v B Karabulut TUR
75 S Marshall ENG v Li Jinzhi CHN
81 F Crews USA v D Shakimova KAZ

[mike222]

As I see it for olympic qualification-places still available and boxers qualified
51KGS Qualified Siona Fernandez and Marlen Esparza
Guaranteed 1 African
1 American
2 Asian (4 in the Quarter-finals)
3 European (4 in the Quarters)
Hosts or Invitational
1 America
1 Asia
1 Europe
60KGS Qualified Adriana Araujo,Alexis Pritchard,Mavsuna Choriewa,Rim Jouni
Guaranteed
1 Asia
3 Europe
Hosts or Invitational
1 Africa
1 America
1 Europe(6 in the quarters)
1 Asia
75KGS
Qualified Naomi Rassmussen
Guaranteed
1 Africa
2 America
1 Asia(either Li Jinzhi or Marina Volnova)
3 Europe (6 in the quarters)
Hosts/Invitational
1 Afica
1 America
1 Asia
1 Europe
Why did they not have regional qualifiers it is so much simpler