Looking for 57kg opponent

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Macho
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Looking for 57kg opponent

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Hi Everybody

I was hoping somebody on here could help put me in contact to find an opponent for a fellow making his pro debut in Sydney.
It's hard to find opponents at the lighter weights.
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Macho wrote:Hi Everybody

I was hoping somebody on here could help put me in contact to find an opponent for a fellow making his pro debut in Sydney.
It's hard to find opponents at the lighter weights.
We'd be lucky to have 10 active featherweights in Aust at the present time. Sure makes it hard.
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TrainInsane wrote:
Macho wrote:Hi Everybody

I was hoping somebody on here could help put me in contact to find an opponent for a fellow making his pro debut in Sydney.
It's hard to find opponents at the lighter weights.
We'd be lucky to have 10 active featherweights in Aust at the present time. Sure makes it hard.
Eight ranked featherweights to be exact. No point looking across the Tasman either. New Zealand has no ranked professionals from bantamweight to super featherweight!
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As I said in an email to him and I know it's not a positive spin but it's the facts...

He (actually the promoter/matchmaker) needs to try and find some Thai/Filipino/Indonesian that is based in Oz if at all possible. If he doesn't, it's going to cost him a few thousand dollars (2K-3K) for airfare, food, hotel, transportation, visas, etc. to bring a guy over from Thailand, etc. It's only 4 rounds but the trainer is almost certainly going to need to go-if you can get a guy to go alone, good on ya. I wouldn't ever let one of my guys go alone.

It's simply not worth the trip for a guy to go and make $500-$600, even for 4 rounds. How much of that do you think they'll get to keep? Try 30-40%, maybe 50% if they're lucky. Guys are either going to lay down at the first punch or you're going to fight some Thai kid with 200 Muay Thai fights who will beat your ass just because he loves to fight and beat up an Aussie who doesn't expect him to do so.

Also, the sort of opposition he needs to face in his debut may not have their medicals done. I don't remember if they're needed when fighting in Sydney. Medicals are an additional expense for the fighter's team and here in Thailand, you're looking at $400-600 USD for the medicals (includes CAT scan without contrast). So while it is always wise for a fighter to have his medicals done once a year, at the level of someone fighting a boxer making his debut, a Thai/Filipino/Indonesian is not going to want to pay for this if it isn't done already.

Good luck, you're going to need it. You might have to fight over the weight or find some Thai kid cooking noodles in a Sydney restaurant who wants some extra cash, seriously. It's not going to get easier until you have a few fights under your belt.
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If you omit Chris John (WBA Super champion) & Daud Yordan (IBO Champion) you still have 24 featherweights in Indonesia, one of our closest neighbours.

Worth thinking about?
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Brute wrote:If you omit Chris John (WBA Super champion) & Daud Yordan (IBO Champion) you still have 24 featherweights in Indonesia, one of our closest neighbours.

Worth thinking about?
$650 USD is about what a ticket from Jakarta runs x 2. Add in the visa (dunno if there is one to oz but there is when they come to Thailand), departure tax ($150 per), purse ($600+, if you're lucky, $400 but...no comment), hotel, food and you're looking at over $2000 US, at least, not including the purse of the debuting fighter.

Now, I could be wrong but for a four round, fight debut, doesn't this seem a bit steep? Thinking like a promoter, it seems way too much for the opponent of a pro debut when a bit of research (perhaps alot) and you can possibly find someone in need of a $400-$800 payday living in Oz while saving many of the other expenses. Not to piss on your campfire, just saying...from a business standpoint, I wouldn't do it unless the debuting fighter was an Olympic medalist or already had a huge, built-in fan base.
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