British Top 30 P4P July 2012

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) Ricky Burns
4. (4.) David Haye
5. (5.) Nathan Cleverly
6. (6.) Ola Afolabi
7. (7.) Brian Magee (Irish)
8. (8.) Kell Brook
9. (9.) Jamie McDonnell
10. (10.) Matthew Macklin

11. (11.) Andy Lee (Irish)
12. (12.) Kevin Mitchell
13. (13.) Rendall Munroe
14. (15.) George Groves
15. (16.) Tyson Fury
16. (17.) Darren Barker
17. (18.) Gavin Rees
18. (22.) Martin Murray
19. (19.) Lee Selby
20. (20.) James DeGale

21. (21.) Tony Bellew
22. (23.) Dereck Chisora
23. (14.) Ryan Rhodes
24. (24.) Kerry Hope
25. (25.) Derry Mathews
26. (26.) David Price
27. (27.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
28. (28.) Matthew Hatton
29. (29.) Scott Quigg
30. (30.) Gary Buckland

[Horse]

Any comments or criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[jessi]

Andy lee looses and stays 11th, Ryan Rhodes looses and drops 9 places ?
I understand lee was fighting a world champion but dropping 9 places for Rhodes against a good fighter seems abit harsh !

[Rockys gum shield]

Think Tony Bellew should be a lot further up that list myself.

[whiskey]

Will Lee Haskins make a list ?

British& commonwealth champ and fights for euro title on 7th.

[Horse]

Andy lee looses and stays 11th, Ryan Rhodes looses and drops 9 places ?
I understand lee was fighting a world champion but dropping 9 places for Rhodes against a good fighter seems abit harsh !

Rhodes's best win since he beat Moore over 2 years and 8 months ago was against Khomitski which was a decent keeping busy win. Rhodes hadn't been getting the results to maintain his high position, so after the Rabchenko loss I had to drop him a fair few places.

Lee had been on better form than Rhodes and he lost to Chavez Jr who is a WBC champion. He was also more competitive against Chavez Jr than Rhodes was against Rabchenko in my opinion.

[world ranked]

Still no sign of Ajose Olusegun. McCloskey just got stopped by Demarcus Corley but he still ranked
higher than Olusegun. Derry Mathews is on this list before Olsegun. Ajose is in line for a world title
and Mathews has never been past brittish level. Boxrec has Olesugun at #12 @140. McCloskey is at
#39 and boxrec has both Darren hamilton and Ashley Theopane and Lenny Daws in front of McCloskey.

[Horse]

Think Tony Bellew should be a lot further up that list myself.

Bellew could reasonably be higher, but everyone above him has a good case for being higher than Bellew as well.

Bellew picked up the best win of his career a few months ago against McIntosh, if he can get back in the ring soon then he should be climbing the rankings fairly rapidly.

[Horse]

Will Lee Haskins make a list ?

British& commonwealth champ and fights for euro title on 7th.

The winner of Haskins vs Hall will enter the rankings next month.

Haskins has been in the rankings before, he entered after he beat Broadhurst and fell out a few months later.

[REEVE]

how could he fall out of the rankings tho after going 5 fights unbeaten since broadhurst , winning prize fighter + the win in morroco?

[Horse]

Still no sign of Ajose Olusegun. McCloskey just got stopped by Demarcus Corley but he still ranked
higher than Olusegun. Derry Mathews is on this list before Olsegun. Ajose is in line for a world title
and Mathews has never been past brittish level. Boxrec has Olesugun at #12 @140. McCloskey is at
#39 and boxrec has both Darren hamilton and Ashley Theopane and Lenny Daws in front of McCloskey.

Olusegun hasn't fought in over 9 months and it is difficult to judge how good a win against Chebah is. Olusegun will have to fight again to re-enter the list and that probably won't happen for a while.

Who has Olusegun beaten that is better than British level? In the last 2 years Olusegun has had 2 fights, Mathews has had 12 and has another scheduled this weekend. Mathews has a better recent record than Olusegun.

McCloskey was the European champion and he challenged for a world title just over a year ago. He beat Prescott less than a year ago (albeit controversially) and Prescott is arguably better than Chebah.

Olusegun is too inactive and his opposition is not good enough to make up for it.

[world ranked]

Opponents play a fact in ranking fighters but its not all look where you have Kell Brook. Olusegun is ranked higher
in every other ranking in the world but your telling me becuause he hasn't fought in nine months that means something. Boxrec keep fighters in their rankings for 1 year. You because Matthews and McCloskey is active dont mean their better. Olusegun career is clearly on the upswing and McCloskey on the downward spirial. McCloskey
just got stopped wins count for something loses should too. If you think resumes are similar who the better fighter in
your opinion.

[Horse]

how could he fall out of the rankings tho after going 5 fights unbeaten since broadhurst , winning prize fighter + the win in morroco?

Because he didn't fight for 16 months after the 1st Broadhurst fight.

[Horse]

Opponents play a fact in ranking fighters but its not all look where you have Kell Brook. Olusegun is ranked higher
in every other ranking in the world but your telling me becuause he hasn't fought in nine months that means something.

Brook has a better record than Olusegun and is ranked in the top 10 by all 4 of the major sanctioning bodies. Olusegun is only ranked by the WBC.

Boxrec keep fighters in their rankings for 1 year. You because Matthews and McCloskey is active dont mean their better.

I didn't take Olusegun out because he was inactive, he fell out as other fighters moved ahead of him.

Olusegun career is clearly on the upswing and McCloskey on the downward spirial. McCloskey
just got stopped wins count for something loses should too. If you think resumes are similar who the better fighter in
your opinion.

At the moment I would favour Olusegun to beat McCloskey, but McCloskey is probably going to fall out of the rankings in a few months, so it doesn't really matter. If I had taken McCloskey out of the rankings after his loss to Corley it wouldn't have been Olusegun replacing him.

Olusegun can only re-enter when he fights again.

[RonnieTheSharkClark]

where is my name on this ;) must be a mistake somewhere :P

[Horse]

where is my name on this ;) must be a mistake somewhere :P

Maybe in a few fights time.

[whiskey]

Where was Olusegun born and where is he now based ?

[Londonirish]

Where was Olusegun born and where is he now based ?

Nigeria was base in Kentish town at the Kronx which is Back to St Pancreas Boxing Gym His last fight was out in the States...

[earsjohn]

Where was Olusegun born and where is he now based ?

More importantly, where is he licensed?

I'm looking forward to seeing Horse's Luxembourg Top 2 P4P August 2012 list on 1st August.

[TopGun]

Interesting to see Brian Magee in British list even though he is Irish and this is acknowledged in the thread??!!!

Might as well chuck in Hopkins in his place (USofA) :!:

[Horse]

Where was Olusegun born and where is he now based ?

He was born in Nigeria and I think he is based in the United States now.

He is a former British champion, so he will remain eligible for a place in the rankings.

[Horse]

Interesting to see Brian Magee in British list even though he is Irish and this is acknowledged in the thread??!!!

Might as well chuck in Hopkins in his place (USofA) :!:

Magee is a former British champion. It is hardly crazy to have him in the British rankings.