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Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 08:44
by potter2481
Theres a wisper that Dave coldwell is going to be Khans new trainer do you think this would be a good move as dave knows how to rebuild fighters, look at kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes he did good jobs with them and has also worked at the top with David haye as he was haymakers top guy there :TU:

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 08:49
by lefty
potter2481 wrote:Theres a wisper that Dave coldwell is going to be Khans new trainer do you think this would be a good move as dave knows how to rebuild fighters, look at kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes he did good jobs with them and has also worked at the top with David haye as he was haymakers top guy there :TU:
hmm

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 09:07
by HPI
seriously?

that would be a funny choice if you ask me

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 09:32
by leeharding
HPI wrote:seriously?

that would be a funny choice if you ask me
terrible choice if u ask me ide go back to first time trainer oliver harrison????????

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 09:35
by d
potter2481 wrote:Theres a wisper that Dave coldwell is going to be Khans new trainer do you think this would be a good move as dave knows how to rebuild fighters, look at kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes he did good jobs with them and has also worked at the top with David haye as he was haymakers top guy there :TU:
I've just seen this post.. thanks very much but i don't really think you can go from Freddie Roach to me!!


:lol:

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 09:46
by lefty
Anyone considered Virgil Hunter who's Andre Wards Trainer? Ward doesnt have an exciting style by any stretch of the imagination but he can fight both on the outside and on the inside! The inside being something Khan particularily needs!

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:04
by Datsue
Not as funny as the Gallagher rumours, imo.

There's something about Khan's inability to block an uppercut in close (& the vast gaping holes in his defence anyway) that would make me genuinely fear for his safety were he to adopt the Mancunian "style" (although I suppose you could say he's got half of it down already).

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:07
by lefty
Datsue wrote:Not as funny as the Gallagher rumours, imo.

There's something about Khan's inability to block an uppercut in close (& the vast gaping holes in his defence anyway) that would make me genuinely fear for his safety were he to adopt the Mancunian "style" (although I suppose you could say he's got half of it down already).
I dont think Gallagher would be a good fit for Khan myself.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:42
by danfoster
leftysreturn wrote:
Datsue wrote:Not as funny as the Gallagher rumours, imo.

There's something about Khan's inability to block an uppercut in close (& the vast gaping holes in his defence anyway) that would make me genuinely fear for his safety were he to adopt the Mancunian "style" (although I suppose you could say he's got half of it down already).
I dont think Gallagher would be a good fit for Khan myself.
Why? He seems to like getting hit in the face.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:49
by lefty
danfoster wrote:
leftysreturn wrote:
Datsue wrote:Not as funny as the Gallagher rumours, imo.

There's something about Khan's inability to block an uppercut in close (& the vast gaping holes in his defence anyway) that would make me genuinely fear for his safety were he to adopt the Mancunian "style" (although I suppose you could say he's got half of it down already).
I dont think Gallagher would be a good fit for Khan myself.
Why? He seems to like getting hit in the face.
:lol:

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:59
by safeerah
Don't be shocked if he lets Gallagher train him at short term, Gallagher trains his fighters at Khans gym, has a stable of top fighters at different weights, good sparring, Khan's home town, friends and family close by,maybe Gallagher is not the right trainer technically, but he has been successful, Khan might fed up of traveling and want to train near to home, could use Gallagher for conditioning and another trainer Emanuel Steward to come over before fight for technical work.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 11:03
by lefty
safeerah wrote:Don't be shocked if he lets Gallagher train him at short term, Gallagher trains his fighters at Khans gym, has a stable of top fighters at different weights, good sparring, Khan's home town, friends and family close by,maybe Gallagher is not the right trainer technically, but he has been successful, Khan might fed up of traveling and want to train near to home, could use Gallagher for conditioning and another trainer Emanuel Steward to come over before fight for technical work.
With all due respect to the guys that train under Gallagher though Saf, i dont think it is particularily good sparring! For me theres a big difference between the sparring you get at the wildcard with guys like Manny pacquaio and the sparring you get at Gallaghers gym. Most of those guys like Crolla, the Smith Brothers, the Murray brothers, etc are british level fighters and dont compare to the world class sparring you get at the wild card gym.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 11:09
by twenty six
Khan might want to "come home" but seriously that should not mean literally home.
That is a recipe for disaster - and with all the hangers on etc, well ......

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 11:31
by whiskey
d wrote:
potter2481 wrote:Theres a wisper that Dave coldwell is going to be Khans new trainer do you think this would be a good move as dave knows how to rebuild fighters, look at kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes he did good jobs with them and has also worked at the top with David haye as he was haymakers top guy there :TU:
I've just seen this post.. thanks very much but i don't really think you can go from Freddie Roach to me!!


:lol:
Selling yourself short there mate. As long as your contract is in a padlocked hotel room safe of course!

:OhYes:

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 12:47
by iamasadlittleboy
Mayweather or Steward are surely the two stand out candidates?

Someone who can help him defend against left hooks would be useful...

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:06
by wesley05
potter2481 wrote:Theres a wisper that Dave coldwell is going to be Khans new trainer do you think this would be a good move as dave knows how to rebuild fighters, look at kell Brook and Ryan Rhodes he did good jobs with them and has also worked at the top with David haye as he was haymakers top guy there :TU:
This could be a great move for khan if he wants 1 to 1 dave has shown he can rock it with the big boys he's young,ambitious, and has a lot to offer to any boxer great post mr potter :TU:

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:22
by ryan917
Bullshit, Khan and Coldwell have a little beef after Khan accused Brooj of being a cokehead on twitter.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:36
by jimcook
i reckon derren brown might do a decent job

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 14:35
by LeedsLad
Gallagher would get Khan killed.

A fighter with a weak chin should stay the f**k away from Gallagher, who's gym is racking up KO losses like nobodies business.

Dave wouldn't be the worst shout, but I think many of Khan's flaws are mental. He believes he's a lot more skilled than what he really is, the true test of someone (IMO) when you've been knocked out, and in his case suffered back to back defeats against opponents that, frankly, aren't anything special is to realise your shortcomings, what's going wrong and to make moves to put them right.

Khan hadn't learned the lessons from the Peterson defeat, judging from the leaked sparring footage - being hit with hard counters by an amateur for Christ's sake. What amateurs ever punch with their opponent? Usually once they're in reach it's mutual hugging until the ref breaks them up.... and there was lots of pushing.

In the Garcia fight it was more poor foot placement and getting himself out of position and in to harm's way. Like other Roach fighters Khan's back hand guard drops when he throws more than one punch he's wide open to the looping left hand, as much as Manny is to the short right hand, albeit for slightly different reasons.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:20
by JamesH
Beyond the fight-related arguments, I just couldn't see Khan and Joe seeing eye to eye if they worked together regularly. If Mr Jeffries felt that Joe was too thinly spread, it doesn't bode well for a relationship with Khan. Its one thing playing second fiddle to Pacman, but....

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:21
by lefty
JamesH wrote:Beyond the fight-related arguments, I just couldn't see Khan and Joe seeing eye to eye if they worked together regularly. If Mr Jeffries felt that Joe was too thinly spread, it doesn't bode well for a relationship with Khan. Its one thing playing second fiddle to Pacman, but....
playing second fiddle to Scott Quigg :lol:

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:42
by iamasadlittleboy
JamesH wrote:Beyond the fight-related arguments, I just couldn't see Khan and Joe seeing eye to eye if they worked together regularly. If Mr Jeffries felt that Joe was too thinly spread, it doesn't bode well for a relationship with Khan. Its one thing playing second fiddle to Pacman, but....
Was Khan even "second" in line at Wildcard? I'm not sure that he was actually ahead of Chavez...

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:44
by Dan Dares
danfoster wrote:
leftysreturn wrote:
Datsue wrote:Not as funny as the Gallagher rumours, imo.

There's something about Khan's inability to block an uppercut in close (& the vast gaping holes in his defence anyway) that would make me genuinely fear for his safety were he to adopt the Mancunian "style" (although I suppose you could say he's got half of it down already).
I dont think Gallagher would be a good fit for Khan myself.
Why? He seems to like getting hit in the face.
:OhYes: Quality.

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:58
by big lennox
Dave's a superb trainer and I expect that he will produce world champions over a period of time!!

Re: Coldwell to train Khan

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 16:02
by Adamj1987
HPI wrote:seriously?

that would be a funny choice if you ask me
i cant see it personally