Punching power

[lefty]

What are your theories on what makes someone a puncher vs someone who seems feather fisted? I know by no means is this a new question but its something that perplexes me because punchers come in some many different forms! For instance you have bangers who are stockily built, then you have scrawny punchers, fast, slow, etc. It goes on and on! What are your own personal theories on why some people can hit like a mule and why some cant seem to punch at all?

[spudder56]

What are your theories on what makes someone a puncher vs someone who seems feather fisted? I know by no means is this a new question but its something that perplexes me because punchers come in some many different forms! For instance you have bangers who are stockily built, then you have scrawny punchers, fast, slow, etc. It goes on and on! What are your own personal theories on why some people can hit like a mule and why some cant seem to punch at all?

Its all down to angles and leverage imo

[lefty]

What are your theories on what makes someone a puncher vs someone who seems feather fisted? I know by no means is this a new question but its something that perplexes me because punchers come in some many different forms! For instance you have bangers who are stockily built, then you have scrawny punchers, fast, slow, etc. It goes on and on! What are your own personal theories on why some people can hit like a mule and why some cant seem to punch at all?

Its all down to angles and leverage imo

Its funny you say that as a lot of the biggest punchers tend to have quite long arms which obviously give you more leverage behind your shots. Arthur Abraham who is built like a bull has long arms for the height he is, i remember hearing that during commentary of one of his fights.

[spudder56]

What are your theories on what makes someone a puncher vs someone who seems feather fisted? I know by no means is this a new question but its something that perplexes me because punchers come in some many different forms! For instance you have bangers who are stockily built, then you have scrawny punchers, fast, slow, etc. It goes on and on! What are your own personal theories on why some people can hit like a mule and why some cant seem to punch at all?

Its all down to angles and leverage imo

Its funny you say that as a lot of the biggest punchers tend to have quite long arms which obviously give you more leverage behind your shots. Arthur Abraham who is built like a bull has long arms for the height he is, i remember hearing that during commentary of one of his fights.

Yes mate Tommy hearns is a classic example muderous puncher but looked really skinny in his early days another tremendous puncher who looked as weak as a kitten was Pipino Cuevas

[LeedsLad]

Technique.

I think that the modern training methods, such as the prolonged use of mitts reduce the chances of a fighter becoming a heavy hitter.

These days some fighters do nothing but hit pads all day, instead of hitting the bags, shadowboxing and hitting bodybelts and stuff.

For me, the problem is that you'd be concentrating on hitting the mitt as much as making sure you throw the punch correctly, and your trainer slapping the mitt against your gloves gives a false indication as to the power.

In addition, last time I checked, most opponents have only one head rather than two and slightly better movement than mitts!

They're alright for warm-ups/warm-downs, and cardio work. Other than that, they're best left for Boxercise classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfVOLlma ... re=related

^ now to me, this is rubbish. He's not working on anything, his trainer isn't actually coaching him at all, he's holding a pair of mitts limply and just being slapped with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY_i7pztGRw

^ this is how you train.

[spudder56]

Technique.

I think that the modern training methods, such as the prolonged use of mitts reduce the chances of a fighter becoming a heavy hitter.

These days some fighters do nothing but hit pads all day, instead of hitting the bags, shadowboxing and hitting bodybelts and stuff.

For me, the problem is that you'd be concentrating on hitting the mitt as much as making sure you throw the punch correctly, and your trainer slapping the mitt against your gloves gives a false indication as to the power.

In addition, last time I checked, most opponents have only one head rather than two and slightly better movement than mitts!

They're alright for warm-ups/warm-downs, and cardio work. Other than that, they're best left for Boxercise

classes.

Thats very true a lot of trainers are throwing the pad against the glove and it makes a loud noise and as you rightly say gives a completely false indication of power etc Some padsmen are throwing more shots than the boxer and indeed faster shots lol

[LeedsLad]

Technique.

I think that the modern training methods, such as the prolonged use of mitts reduce the chances of a fighter becoming a heavy hitter.

These days some fighters do nothing but hit pads all day, instead of hitting the bags, shadowboxing and hitting bodybelts and stuff.

For me, the problem is that you'd be concentrating on hitting the mitt as much as making sure you throw the punch correctly, and your trainer slapping the mitt against your gloves gives a false indication as to the power.

In addition, last time I checked, most opponents have only one head rather than two and slightly better movement than mitts!

They're alright for warm-ups/warm-downs, and cardio work. Other than that, they're best left for Boxercise

classes.

Thats very true a lot of trainers are throwing the pad against the glove and it makes a loud noise and as you rightly say gives a completely false indication of power etc Some padsmen are throwing more shots than the boxer and indeed faster shots lol

Exactly.

Anybody could be a trainer if that's all you do.

Even Freddie Roach does way too much work on the mitts for my liking. To me, a trainer should be watching the fighter.... the way that Roger Mayweather just stands there and watches Mayweather pound the bag, for instance, or Beristain and Marquez - the two best fighters on the planet right there.

I quite like the thing that Naazim Richardson does, with the bits of pipe lagging, it's more realistic than mitts for a start... he can pull the target back and side to side in a more realistic manner.

[Old bones Ian]

Its down to alot of different things, look at boxers from Colombia they tend to produce big punchers, this is because of the style they are taught from a young age, big wide punches with little defense. Then look at British boxers, told about defense and upright stance, this doesn't produce big punchers, but does mean they ain't knocked out :)

[matko]

A lot is down to genetics in the boxer and core strength
people who tend to have good genes in their family tends to follow down the family tree and passed on Core stability is important as it transfers your weight, keeps u balanced, etc which is important for power

[sharpei_louis]

Its down to alot of different things, look at boxers from Colombia they tend to produce big punchers, this is because of the style they are taught from a young age, big wide punches with little defense. Then look at British boxers, told about defense and upright stance, this doesn't produce big punchers, but does mean they ain't knocked out :)

Sorry to just plain hate, but couldn't help but think of Prescott-Khan on reading this post!

[b0ndl1ne]

I have a small fist, a skinny wrist and thin forearms and I have no power at all. A close friend has a big fist, thick wrist and big forearms and punches like a mule.

[Old bones Ian]

Its down to alot of different things, look at boxers from Colombia they tend to produce big punchers, this is because of the style they are taught from a young age, big wide punches with little defense. Then look at British boxers, told about defense and upright stance, this doesn't produce big punchers, but does mean they ain't knocked out :)

Sorry to just plain hate, but couldn't help but think of Prescott-Khan on reading this post!

ok, fair point. But proves my Colombian theory. They are usually a nightmare to box, because they have that 1 punch power

[lefty]

I have a small fist, a skinny wrist and thin forearms and I have no power at all. A close friend has a big fist, thick wrist and big forearms and punches like a mule.

i know someone who is the opposite though ie has the physical proportions you do and they punch like a mule! Its a mystery thats hard to work out i think! Ha

[safeerah]

I have a small fist, a skinny wrist and thin forearms and I have no power at all. A close friend has a big fist, thick wrist and big forearms and punches like a mule.

i know someone who is the opposite though ie has the physical proportions you do and they punch like a mule! Its a mystery thats hard to work out i think! Ha

There is no hard and fast rule to punching power, some people are natural punchers, for some speed is power, some use power and strength training, some use drugs, so many theories like big legs, big forearms, strong wrist's, big chest, long arms, more compact body, man strength ect..

[Scrap]

Its to do with where the Head is, in relation to your Arsehole.

[Wales]

Its down to alot of different things, look at boxers from Colombia they tend to produce big punchers, this is because of the style they are taught from a young age, big wide punches with little defense. Then look at British boxers, told about defense and upright stance, this doesn't produce big punchers, but does mean they ain't knocked out :)

Sorry to just plain hate, but couldn't help but think of Prescott-Khan on reading this post!

ok, fair point. But proves my Colombian theory. They are usually a nightmare to box, because they have that 1 punch power

Also, one of my wildcard fav fighters of the last 7 years, Columbian Ricardo Torres.

Edit: when i say wildcard i meant a wildcard choice not the gym

[LeedsLad]

Hmm.... Colombians and Mexicans are generally the hardest punchers these days.

Probably because they spend less time being taught bad habits in the amateurs.

[whiskey]

I'd put a further spin on it,

I've sparred lads who can knock you about due to their heavy hands, but not really hurt me.

Then other, maybe faster punchers, whip stinging shots in. I'm stung and more bothered by those than the 'heavy hands' which I can go all day with.

[matko]

I have a small fist, a skinny wrist and thin forearms and I have no power at all. A close friend has a big fist, thick wrist and big forearms and punches like a mule.

Having a bigger fist and forearms can definitely help but not always the case a lot of fighters have small hands and still carry frightening power bone structure of a fists boney knuckles and hitting with centre of fist can help , as well as core and genetics a lot has to do with as said earlier but timing as well of a punch and accuracy is crucial. I have a couple of Russian lads and they are strong heavy fists like stone and also 2 brothers who are half Nigerian half Russian which i would say is great genes for a fighter who do Thai boxing both again heavy hands and very explosive.

[Old bones Ian]

Hmm.... Colombians and Mexicans are generally the hardest punchers these days.

Probably because they spend less time being taught bad habits in the amateurs.

I think its because to be successful in the Am's you have to have a non-puncher style, not many mexicans do much in the Worlds or Olympics. But they are great as pro's.

[Happy Slapper]

Some people are just born with it. I think you can work on it with weights and certain training techniques, but it's basically just a gift.

[Terminator666]

As well as technique it comes down to split second timing and feints imo. Alot of fighters can take a certain amount of heavy blows if they are braced for it. It's the ones you don't see coming that cause the ko, which may not register as the hardest blows if they could be measured in some way.

[Scrap]

Knowing why the Head, controls the Posterior Chain

[rhino222]

Its to do with where the Head is, in relation to your Arsehole.

my arsehole lives a few streets from me, im so glad i got divorced.

[Andypittcov]

Knowing why the Head, controls the Posterior Chain

I thought the pelvis did