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Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 14:15
by Old bones Ian
Danny still won't retire, he's now down to fight Janne “Finnish Butterbean” Katajisto on Sept 8th in Finland.
I know enough have said on here that they want Danny to retire, but it seems he can get a licence from anywhere and continue so it ain't going to end soon
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 15:27
by jameswilson
He will still continue to get licenced because he isn't geting KO'd fight after fight after fight and on the contrtary is actually winning a fair few fights.
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 15:47
by Londonirish
If the Man wants to fight then let him Fight, if he aint worried what will happen to him then i don't know why people are..
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 16:21
by tear up
I like Danny he s a warrior he like s fighting so back him he will know when to hang the gloves up is he doing it for the money
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 16:40
by m1kee50
tear up wrote:I like Danny he s a warrior he like s fighting so back him he will know when to hang the gloves up is he doing it for the money
last I heard he was doing a bit of BG'ing and had a bit of a plumbing supplies shop too...
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 16:43
by m1kee50
Londonirish wrote:If the Man wants to fight then let him Fight, if he aint worried what will happen to him then i don't know why people are..
Thats a funny sort of statement Martin, the world is full of people who worry about relatives, mates etc boxing or doing other sports, especially where the participants themselves aren't concerned. Danny has built up such a level of respect for his performances that people don't want to see him risk his health.
How much money makes the fate of Ali, or Watson, or Ingle, bearable, or worth suffering?
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 16:56
by Londonirish
@matt___s wrote:Londonirish wrote:If the Man wants to fight then let him Fight, if he aint worried what will happen to him then i don't know why people are..
Thats a funny sort of statement Martin, the world is full of people who worry about relatives, mates etc boxing or doing other sports, especially where the participants themselves aren't concerned. Danny has built up such a level of respect for his performances that people don't want to see him risk his health.
How much money makes the fate of Ali, or Watson, or Ingle, bearable, or worth suffering?
I see what your saying BUT he is a MAN and if that's the choice he makes let him get on with it, if friends and family is begging him to quite then maybe he should listen if he doesn't and something Bad happen's then i wouldn't feel bad for him... Harsh but thats the way i looked at it.....
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 17:05
by m1kee50
Londonirish wrote:@matt___s wrote:Londonirish wrote:If the Man wants to fight then let him Fight, if he aint worried what will happen to him then i don't know why people are..
Thats a funny sort of statement Martin, the world is full of people who worry about relatives, mates etc boxing or doing other sports, especially where the participants themselves aren't concerned. Danny has built up such a level of respect for his performances that people don't want to see him risk his health.
How much money makes the fate of Ali, or Watson, or Ingle, bearable, or worth suffering?
I see what your saying BUT he is a MAN and if that's the choice he makes let him get on with it, if friends and family is begging him to quite then maybe he should listen if he doesn't and something Bad happen's then o wpuldn't feel bad for him if i was them... Harsh way i'd looking at it.....
little bit...!
I take your point, he is his own man, but especially when it comes to the injuries associated with boxing, the person labouring under them can't always see them for what they are.
I love boxing and I hope that comes through in everything I write about it, but it always troubles me deep down that my enjoyment in a sense is founded on that sort of damage, I'm obviously too young for Ali, but I grew up knowing about Watson, Ingle, McClellan, to name only the highest-profile cases.
As much as someone is boxing to earn a living by fighting, and I appreciate them doing it because I enjoy watching it, that doesn't automatically mean, for me, that I can dismiss the risk they take by saying 'it's ok, he chose to carry on'
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 17:16
by Londonirish
@matt___s wrote:
little bit...!
Boxing is a Harsh sport and Everyone that steps into the ring is risking there Health.. Danny is slower and is not as good as what he was but he still beat the Majority of Journey Men and i think it's his choice what to do..
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 17:42
by matko
I am an ex fighter boxed amateur pro and now coach full time, I also respect everyone's views on here but watch this (I know documentaries is mentioned in another thread) but this is very touching especially about the 2 brothers
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 17:43
by matko
Think I got hit too much forgot the link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_svnsF5OLbI
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 18:18
by JDC
Londonirish wrote:@matt___s wrote:
little bit...!
Boxing is a Harsh sport and Everyone that steps into the ring is risking there Health.. Danny is slower and is not as good as what he was but he still beat the Majority of Journey Men and i think it's his choice what to do..
Him thinking he should go on isn't enough of a reason for him to be allowed...
In any other ''dangerous'' profession (eg Lumberjack, Fireman, Soldier, etc, etc) employers would fire anyone who was a danger to themselves, through diminishing physical attributes. For insurance purposes? Yes... but also because of a moral obligation to the man and his family. Commissions have the same obligation. It should never be left up to someone to decide their own fate, but I'd agree that Danny would still beat most journeymen. He's boardline compared to some.
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 18:22
by matko
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=8pARExGEOW0 here's a good tribute but he fought to long
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 07:14
by whiskey
Danny will get punchy, if he isnt already.
Encephalitis is scarring of the brain from it being repeatedly crash from one side of the skull to the other.
Now unless his brain is made of something other than flesh, tissue and connective nerves... it will happen.
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 08:03
by jessi
He beat mike Tyson, everyone wants to fight him, cashing in before he retires which will be soon
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 09:22
by Glyn Leach
Should we deem any of the boards that licence Danny to be unworthy and declare all fights under their jurisdictions to be unlicenced?
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 09:41
by ILikeBeer
Just heard about this. Sad really.
If any guy needs to reitre write a book, it's him. I used to not be a fan of his, but he's kind of earned my respect. He's had so many highs and lows in his career. He's had two reigns as British champion, won a fight with a dislocated shoulder, beat Mike Tyson, got spanked against Klitschko, fought on the Ricky Hatton vs Kostya Tszyu undercard, had that controversial second fight with Michael Sprott in which he was booed and called a cheat and ended up disallowed from fighting in Britain and grabbing himself a European license to fight bums abroad. Almost every stage of his career is worth hearing stories about from boxing fans.
When they bring out an autobiography for every game contestant these days, it's a wonder nobody has approached Danny Williams to hear his story.
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 09:44
by ILikeBeer
Just heard about this. Sad really.
If any guy needs to reitre write a book, it's him. I used to not be a fan of his, but he's kind of earned my respect. He's had so many highs and lows in his career. He's had two reigns as British champion, won a fight with a dislocated shoulder, beat Mike Tyson, got spanked against Klitschko, fought on the Ricky Hatton vs Kostya Tszyu undercard, had that controversial second fight with Michael Sprott in which he was booed and called a cheat and ended up disallowed from fighting in Britain and grabbing himself a European license to fight bums abroad. Almost every stage of his career is worth hearing stories about from boxing fans.
When they bring out an autobiography for every game contestant these days, it's a wonder nobody has approached Danny Williams to hear his story.
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 11:59
by m1kee50
Glyn Leach wrote:Should we deem any of the boards that licence Danny to be unworthy and declare all fights under their jurisdictions to be unlicenced?
Not solely on the grounds of licensing Danny, but if its part of a contributing pattern of behaviour that warrants it, then why not?
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 07:03
by JDC
Are they endorsed by the EBU?
Re: Danny Williams, and so it continues
Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 12:21
by m1kee50
Without wishing to trivialise what happened to Jonjo Finnegan, its quite apparent that it can occur in any fight to any fighter. If you keep rolling the dice, sooner or later you get the numbers you don't want to see. The difference is, the dice have no memory, while the brain's odds of safety are decreasing not only with age but with repeatedly having the same question: does that hurt? asked by the end of a 10oz glove.