So that Cleverly opponent...

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So that Cleverly opponent...

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...was Wazza creating a load of hype for nothing
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I was just about to post something similar.

When are they announcing his next opponent?
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Soulan Pownceby :>
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Camcas wrote:Soulan Pownceby :>
You are just joking aren't you?
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Camcas wrote:Soulan Pownceby :>
Plumber, milkman, taxi driver, doorman?
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Newport Daz wrote:
Camcas wrote:Soulan Pownceby :>
Plumber, milkman, taxi driver, doorman?

all those things. the Press Release will therefore be accurate when it describes him as being 'versatile' :TU:
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Pownceby has some class opponents on his CV....Fale Siaoloa...He has beaten him twice...Fale has won 6 lost 17 (2010)
Peter Tovi'o...He has won 2 lost 10 (2011)
He has won 20 out of 21...No losses but 1 draw again'st Shane Chapman who has a near perfect record of 6 wins, 1 loss
Add to that...He's 37 years old ......
I went to Cardiff to watch Nathan fight Karpency but unless its £10 a ticket I wont be bothering with this one.

You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time'

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A quick count reveals his opposition tally as follows:-

123 wins 134 losses

But elsewhere he apparently got banged up for indecent assault ?!
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Thought it had been a while for some Clev bashing :roll: So let me get this right, you are all having a pop at an unannounced opponent :shame: How sad.
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taffytoon wrote:Thought it had been a while for some Clev bashing :roll: So let me get this right, you are all having a pop at an unannounced opponent :shame: How sad.

good point. with the Murderer's Row Cleverley has taken on so far in his stellar world championship career, people have got a flipping nerve to question his matchmaking in any way shape or form.

when the opponent is eventually announced it is bound to be a very creditable opponent with a well-established pedigree, who will once again make us all applaud the daring matchmaking of the UK's least risk-averse Promoter.
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Counter-puncher wrote:
taffytoon wrote:Thought it had been a while for some Clev bashing :roll: So let me get this right, you are all having a pop at an unannounced opponent :shame: How sad.

good point. with the Murderer's Row Cleverley has taken on so far in his stellar world championship career, people have got a flipping nerve to question his matchmaking in any way shape or form.

when the opponent is eventually announced it is bound to be a very creditable opponent with a well-established pedigree, who will once again make us all applaud the daring matchmaking of the UK's least risk-averse Promoter.
:OhYes:
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Lots of rumours about Shumenov on twitter - but my postman has been training for a while so it could be him.

I am going for the latter
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Horse wrote:
Camcas wrote:Soulan Pownceby :>
You are just joking aren't you?
Yes but he's just moved to NO1 with WBO so wouldn't be surprised
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Camcas wrote:Yes but he's just moved to NO1 with WBO so wouldn't be surprised
Oh dear, it was an educated joke. There really is a good chance Cleverly will fight this person.

Soulan Pownceby: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
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another injury for cleverly?
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Don't know what you lot are complaining about. He's teak tough. Never being stopped.
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having emerged at the top of the Mountain that is the Asia Pacific lightheavyweight title, he is surely ready for bigger things
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Hope its Shumenov Frank during Haye v Chisora said a big fight was lined up for Clev who is still yet to fight top opposition at Light Heavy. Though credit to Bellew who gave him a good fight.
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Haha. I had completely forgot about the massive announcement that never happened.
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This guys a dangerman. A genuine threat to Cleverly. I mean he's got nine ko's! Nine ko's! They call him "the White Bob Foster" in some places. Some places being my backside. Great match-making; Good fight. Might even go 2 rounds.
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Newport Daz wrote:
Camcas wrote:Soulan Pownceby :>
Plumber, milkman, taxi driver, doorman?
Convicted child killer. So I doubt he'll be welcome in the UK.
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Kiwi's Deadly Force

Killer A Medal Chance

A convicted child killer has been selected in New Zealand's boxing team for the Commonwealth Games.
Soulan Pownceby, 29, is rated one of the Kiwi's main hopes for a boxing medal in Melbourne.
In 1995 Pownceby was sentenced to four years jail for the brutal killing of his five-month daughter Jeanette.
Arthur Tunstall, the driving force behind Australian amateur boxing for half a century, said Pownceby had done his time and was now a free agent again.
"If the New Zealand people pick him their side we have to accept their decision," he said.
New Zealand amatuer boxing boss Keith Walker said Pownceby had been dealt with by the judicial system and was free to leave the country.
"He is deeply remorseful for what happened," he said. "He has done his time so who are we to stand in judgement of him?
"Soul has made a fresh start and kept his nose clean, and I don't see any reason why he would change that now."
Games Minister Justin Madden and Melbourne 2006 chairman Ron Walker said they had no authority over team selection.
"It's a matter for the authority to advise us of their selection and once they're selected, and all the approvals are given, we are very happy for them to compete," Mr Walker said.
A court heard Pownceby's baby was subjected to a short, brutal life of abuse and neglect.
She was healing from six fractured ribs when Pownceby, then 19, killed her.
An autopsy showed the baby girl had a cracked skull and her brain has split.
Evidence at POwnceby's trial described Jeanette as malnourished, with wasted buttocks and thighs.
SHe weighed barely more than her 3kg birth weight and had scabies.
The court heard how Pownceby had shaved off his daughter's eyebrows a few days before she died.
Jeanette's mother was getting takeaway food on the night of October 19, 1994, when the baby was fatally injured at Pownceby's Christchurch home.
An ambulance was called after Pownceby ran next door to get help, saying he found the baby in her cot not breathing. Jeanette died in hospital.
Pownceby told police he had accidentally dropped Jeanette in the shower but during his trial he changed his story to say she had fallen on to the wooden arm of a sofa. He was found guilty of manslaughter.
When he was released from prison in 1998, he took his mother's maiden name, Pownceby, and was paorled to live with a Salvation Army boxing academy coach. After he was released there were four more assault convictions, including one involving a woman.
Pownceby later converted to Catholicism and, according to boxing officials in New Zealand, turned his life around from one of drugs, violence and gang culture.
His selection for the 2004 Athens Olympics sparked outrage among women's groups.
At the time a tearful Pownceby apologised for the horrible crime and accepted responsibility for what he had done.
"I am sorry and I'm just trying to be the best person I can be," the boxer said on TV.
The Department of Immigration said Pownceby would have to pass a good character test to gain a Games visa.


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Jeff Thomas wrote:Kiwi's Deadly Force

Killer A Medal Chance

A convicted child killer has been selected in New Zealand's boxing team for the Commonwealth Games.
Soulan Pownceby, 29, is rated one of the Kiwi's main hopes for a boxing medal in Melbourne.
In 1995 Pownceby was sentenced to four years jail for the brutal killing of his five-month daughter Jeanette.
Arthur Tunstall, the driving force behind Australian amateur boxing for half a century, said Pownceby had done his time and was now a free agent again.
"If the New Zealand people pick him their side we have to accept their decision," he said.
New Zealand amatuer boxing boss Keith Walker said Pownceby had been dealt with by the judicial system and was free to leave the country.
"He is deeply remorseful for what happened," he said. "He has done his time so who are we to stand in judgement of him?
"Soul has made a fresh start and kept his nose clean, and I don't see any reason why he would change that now."
Games Minister Justin Madden and Melbourne 2006 chairman Ron Walker said they had no authority over team selection.
"It's a matter for the authority to advise us of their selection and once they're selected, and all the approvals are given, we are very happy for them to compete," Mr Walker said.
A court heard Pownceby's baby was subjected to a short, brutal life of abuse and neglect.
She was healing from six fractured ribs when Pownceby, then 19, killed her.
An autopsy showed the baby girl had a cracked skull and her brain has split.
Evidence at POwnceby's trial described Jeanette as malnourished, with wasted buttocks and thighs.
SHe weighed barely more than her 3kg birth weight and had scabies.
The court heard how Pownceby had shaved off his daughter's eyebrows a few days before she died.
Jeanette's mother was getting takeaway food on the night of October 19, 1994, when the baby was fatally injured at Pownceby's Christchurch home.
An ambulance was called after Pownceby ran next door to get help, saying he found the baby in her cot not breathing. Jeanette died in hospital.
Pownceby told police he had accidentally dropped Jeanette in the shower but during his trial he changed his story to say she had fallen on to the wooden arm of a sofa. He was found guilty of manslaughter.
When he was released from prison in 1998, he took his mother's maiden name, Pownceby, and was paorled to live with a Salvation Army boxing academy coach. After he was released there were four more assault convictions, including one involving a woman.
Pownceby later converted to Catholicism and, according to boxing officials in New Zealand, turned his life around from one of drugs, violence and gang culture.
His selection for the 2004 Athens Olympics sparked outrage among women's groups.
At the time a tearful Pownceby apologised for the horrible crime and accepted responsibility for what he had done.
"I am sorry and I'm just trying to be the best person I can be," the boxer said on TV.
The Department of Immigration said Pownceby would have to pass a good character test to gain a Games visa.


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My little girl is a month old and it made me sick reading that. How the fcuk did he only get 4 years for a crime as disgusting as that??

I consider myself a lefty (no, not the twat poster) but if Cleverly did fight this guy, I'd be cheering for the prospect of him knocking him into a coma
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Lenny - congratulations - and I'm with you on this one. Nathan is a nice guy, but he does need something more significant than thiss.
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DavidPayne wrote:Lenny - congratulations - and I'm with you on this one. Nathan is a nice guy, but he does need something more significant than thiss.
Thanks mate
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