British Top 30 P4P January 2013

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Ricky Burns
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Nathan Cleverly
6. (6.) Ola Afolabi
7. (7.) Kell Brook
8. (8.) Matthew Macklin
9. (11.) George Groves
10. (16.) Tyson Fury

11. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
12. (12.) Gavin Rees
13. (13.) Scott Quigg
14. (17.) James DeGale
15. (22.) Darren Barker
16. (14.) Tony Bellew
17. (15.) David Price
18. (18.) Carl Frampton
19. (19.) Martin Murray
20. (20.) Gary Buckland

21. (9.) Brian Magee (Irish)
22. (NE.) Brian Rose
23. (21.) Andy Lee (Irish)
24. (23.) Lee Selby
25. (25.) Kevin Mitchell
26. (24.) Lee Haskins
27. (26.) Kevin Satchell
28. (27.) Frankie Gavin
29. (28.) Rendall Munroe
30. (29.) Dereck Chisora

Out - (30.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)

[Horse]

Any comments or criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[Newport Daz]

That's pretty much spot on to be honest. Fury and Groves deserve their place in the top 10 imo and the others pick themselves.

[Lenny]

Horse, you are fantastic. 12:00 on New Years, that is dedication for you.


I can't really be bothered to actually look at the list but I'm sure it's spot on

[Horse]

That's pretty much spot on to be honest. Fury and Groves deserve their place in the top 10 imo and the others pick themselves.

[Deno1986]

Horse, didn't Rendall Munroe announce his retirement recently? He is no longer ranked by Boxrec.

[Horse]

Horse, you are fantastic. 12:00 on New Years, that is dedication for you.

Thank you.

I can't really be bothered to actually look at the list but I'm sure it's spot on

You should, it is wonderful.

[Chris W 1982]

Brian Rose and Gary Buckland should not be above Kevin Mitchell

[m1kee50]

Horse, didn't Rendall Munroe announce his retirement recently? He is no longer ranked by Boxrec.

Going on past performance, Munroe will be in the list until the next Mayan calendar runs out.

[m1kee50]

How long before you risk putting Scott Harrison back in, Horse?

[Horse]

Degale Groves are too far apart, for me. Degale's comp since Groves has been better then Groves'.

I think their level of opposition has been fairly similar and Groves has won his fights more easily. Also Groves beat DeGale, so I think Groves being 5 places above DeGale is reasonable.

Framton should be above Price too.

I can see why someone might put Frampton above Price, but I prefer the domestic route to the foreign route, so I gave Price a slight edge considering their level of opposition is about the same and that Price has beaten them slightly more easily than Frampton has.

They both have fights scheduled for February, so Frampton has a good chance to overtake Price then.

[Horse]

Horse, didn't Rendall Munroe announce his retirement recently? He is no longer ranked by Boxrec.

I normally wait a few months after a retirement announcement before I take a fighter out.

[brian13]

Barker is too high. He should be around 19 or 20.

Where is Andy Lee. He might have lost but it was Chavez jr.

Horse, can you start dropping Cleverly lower this year until he starts fighting better opponents. He may be a World champion but that shouldn't warrant the high place given the opponents he has faced recently.

[Horse]

Brian Rose and Gary Buckland should not be above Kevin Mitchell

Mitchell's win against Murray was almost 18 months ago now. Since then he picked up a nothing win against Lora and got destroyed by Burns.

I'm not sure he even deserves a place in the top 30.

Both Rose and Buckland deserve to be above Mitchell.

[Horse]

How long before you risk putting Scott Harrison back in, Horse?

If he beats a good domestic level opponent then he'll be back in.

[Horse]

Barker is too high. He should be around 19 or 20.

He has been fairly inactive over the last few years, but he did smash Hope up rather impressively last month. He did well against Martinez a year and 3 months ago, so I think his ranking is reasonable.

Where is Andy Lee. He might have lost but it was Chavez jr.

Lee is ranked at No. 23.

Horse, can you start dropping Cleverly lower this year until he starts fighting better opponents. He may be a World champion but that shouldn't warrant the high place given the opponents he has faced recently.

If Brook and Afolabi win their next fights then they will go above him.

[dutchie]

Macklin is a bit high!!!

[Horse]

Macklin is a bit high!!!

He did well against Sturm and Martinez and he stopped Alcine in a round.

I think his ranking is fair for now.

[rhino222]

i can only think that the top few in the british p4p's are those that are either the best in the world or those that can be/have been beaten by the very best in the world.

therefore... froch, brook, haye, fury, afolabi, macklin, murray, magee....should all be in the top 10. burns is yet to be tested at top top level, khan has been beaten by persons that are not the worlds best, cleverley and groves are in the same boat as burns!

so my top 8 would be:

Froch
Haye
Brook
Macklin
Murray
Afolabi
Magee
Fury

[mickey1975]

i can only think that the top few in the british p4p's are those that are either the best in the world or those that can be/have been beaten by the very best in the world.

therefore... froch, brook, haye, fury, afolabi, macklin, murray, magee....should all be in the top 10. burns is yet to be tested at top top level, khan has been beaten by persons that are not the worlds best, cleverley and groves are in the same boat as burns!

so my top 8 would be:

Froch
Haye
Brook
Macklin
Murray
Afolabi
Magee
Fury

Brook went life and death with an extremely overated Carson Jones yet that tops Khan's wins over Kotelnik, Maidana and Judah? Or Clev's win over Murat? Ok...

[Lenny]

i can only think that the top few in the british p4p's are those that are either the best in the world or those that can be/have been beaten by the very best in the world.

therefore... froch, brook, haye, fury, afolabi, macklin, murray, magee....should all be in the top 10. burns is yet to be tested at top top level, khan has been beaten by persons that are not the worlds best, cleverley and groves are in the same boat as burns!

so my top 8 would be:

Froch
Haye
Brook
Macklin
Murray
Afolabi
Magee
Fury

Burns has not been tested at top level? Ridiculous thing to say.
Martinez, Moses, Katsides, Mitchell, Arthur?

Especially when you think that Brook has been for the Jones win. Or that Murray has been for the Strum loss.
And I've just noticed Fury? Who was his top level opponent, fat out of shape Del Boy or fearless Kevin Johnson?

And the logic is massively flawed anyway. We get British p4p lists from one poster and one poster only. Unless you can match his dedication then please do not attempt to compete, you will lose

[Adam1991]

Murray didn't lose to sturm pal, just correcting you

[Lenny]

Murray didn't lose to sturm pal, just correcting you

Although I did score it to Strum by 1, I had forgotten it was a draw

[Horse]

i can only think that the top few in the british p4p's are those that are either the best in the world or those that can be/have been beaten by the very best in the world.

therefore... froch, brook, haye, fury, afolabi, macklin, murray, magee....should all be in the top 10. burns is yet to be tested at top top level, khan has been beaten by persons that are not the worlds best, cleverley and groves are in the same boat as burns!

so my top 8 would be:

Froch
Haye
Brook
Macklin
Murray
Afolabi
Magee
Fury

You're having a laugh aren't you?

[Horse]

And the logic is massively flawed anyway. We get British p4p lists from one poster and one poster only. Unless you can match his dedication then please do not attempt to compete, you will lose