Amir Khan speaks to Sky

[whiskey]

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0 ... 41,00.html

Seems a bit more grown up in that interview.

The Garcia bout is a banana skin, a loss will see him permanently relegated - but a win would elevate him back to where he needs to be.

[Wrists]

Question being lets say he beats both Garcia and Peterson in re-matches - big if but could happen.

He will then hold wins over Kotelnik, Judah, Peterson, Garcia, Maidana, Malignaggi which for anyones money is a good resume.

Would YOU give him any credit?

[dondada]

[Sids]

Question being lets say he beats both Garcia and Peterson in re-matches - big if but could happen.

He will then hold wins over Kotelnik, Judah, Peterson, Garcia, Maidana, Malignaggi which for anyones money is a good resume.

Would YOU give him any credit?

I think your getting way ahead of yourself, I would give him credit if he merely got back in the ring with Garcia or Prescott.

[TJ77]

Question being lets say he beats both Garcia and Peterson in re-matches - big if but could happen.

He will then hold wins over Kotelnik, Judah, Peterson, Garcia, Maidana, Malignaggi which for anyones money is a good resume.

Would YOU give him any credit?

Malignaggi not a puncher
Judah is shot as was Barrera conveniently left off the list.
Massive help from the ref in th Maidana fight.
Kotelnik is the only genuine credible win on the list and that was at home for a World title .

Give him credit you have to earn credit.

[Wrists]

So taking on the best in your division for the most part is not worthy of any credit?

Tell me apart from Bradley and Alexander who Khan hasn't fought at 140??

I'm not saying he's immune from criticism, clearly some of his statements after fights are ropey.

However, does he not deserve credit for the fights he has taken on out what is available in his weight division?

[TJ77]

So taking on the best in your division for the most part is not worthy of any credit?

Tell me apart from Bradley and Alexander who Khan hasn't fought at 140??

I'm not saying he's immune from criticism, clearly some of his statements after fights are ropey.

However, does he not deserve credit for the fights he has taken on out what is available in his weight division?

Fair comment i still dont rate him And his not a nice character.

[TJ77]

So taking on the best in your division for the most part is not worthy of any credit?

Tell me apart from Bradley and Alexander who Khan hasn't fought at 140??

I'm not saying he's immune from criticism, clearly some of his statements after fights are ropey.

However, does he not deserve credit for the fights he has taken on out what is available in his weight division?

Fair comment i still dont rate him And his not a nice character.

How do you know?

He makes it known regulalry .

[The 1bangkid]

He makes it known regulalry .

Is that code for you haven't got a clue what he's actually like, and you're just going to make sweeping judgements based on media appearances?

[banjo]

To be fair he does come across as an absolute plonker at times but he's not that bad, he's mainly been misguided by his hangers on.

[gobbles]

Question being lets say he beats both Garcia and Peterson in re-matches - big if but could happen.

He will then hold wins over Kotelnik, Judah, Peterson, Garcia, Maidana, Malignaggi which for anyones money is a good resume.

Would YOU give him any credit?

Malignaggi not a puncher
Judah is shot as was Barrera conveniently left off the list.
Massive help from the ref in th Maidana fight.
Kotelnik is the only genuine credible win on the list and that was at home for a World title .

Give him credit you have to earn credit.

He earned massive credit in Maidana fight. Showed great courage that night and boxed his way through a tough round. To say that wasn't a "credible" win shows you are just pointlessly trying to pick holes. You may as well say Marquez should have been stopped in the first round against Pacquiao in fight one (Khan was not knocked down by Maidana) so the rest of that fight and maybe even the subsequent fights (if you want to push it as they'd never have been a rematch in a one-round blow-out) were only because of Massive help from the referee.

[stevieb_8006]

I wonder whether this thread with turn into one where half the posters write 14 paragraphs stating they have nothing against muslims but just they dont lik amir khans persona, only for the remaining posters to accuse them of racism. And then 15 pages later........

[jtourettes]

I wonder whether this thread with turn into one where half the posters write 14 paragraphs stating they have nothing against muslims but just they dont lik amir khans persona, only for the remaining posters to accuse them of racism. And then 15 pages later........

You must have some kind of psychic power.

[SteveDow]

Khan is obviously an extremely talented offensive boxer. Has great handspeed, good punch power and lots of heart. The problem with Khan is obviously his defensive deficiencies and this coupled with his poor chin will always make him fall short of elite level in my view.

Freddie Roach seemed to bring Khan on a fair bit offensively, certainly his power improved whilst at the same time maintaining the same level of speed. However, defensively he has always been an accident waiting to happen. It was a miracle he wasn't stopped by Maidana and that should have been a warning to him to stop charging in with his chin in the air and be more disciplined. Use his speed and movement to box on the backfoot more often and coast to points wins rather than get involved in tear ups and try to take his opponents heads off. You can get away with that kind of gung-ho approach if you have a chin like Carl Froch, for Khan it is very high risk however and whilst it makes him an exciting fighter to watch this will be no consolation to him if he is losing to guys like Prescott, Peterson and Garcia, guys he is more talented than.

Khan should look at the adjustments Wlad made after his stoppage defeats and train hugely to improve his defensive skills. I personally do not think it is possible to "strengthen" a chin so to avoid being stopped his defence needs to be watertight and the number one priority. Haye is also someone he can look at. At cruiserweight, Haye was an extremely attacking fighter and paid less attention to defensive skills, hence the reason he was floored so many times there. At heavyweight, whatever you think of his campaign at the weight (personally I think he was ok but nothing amazing), his defence has tightened up considerably and apart from a contentious knock down against Barrett he has been very difficult to hit. This is the sort of approach Khan needs to take.

[squared circle]

Haye is also someone he can look at. At cruiserweight, Haye was an extremely attacking fighter and paid less attention to defensive skills, hence the reason he was floored so many times there. At heavyweight, whatever you think of his campaign at the weight (personally I think he was ok but nothing amazing), his defence has tightened up considerably and apart from a contentious knock down against Barrett he has been very difficult to hit. This is the sort of approach Khan needs to take.

Haye has said before, that making the weight at cruiser always affected his ability to take a punch (I know he fought/fights heavy at 15 - 15 1/2 stone, but that is his natural weight, and he just found taking that stone or so off very hard for his frame). I seem to remember when he got knocked down v Mormeck, he said after the fight that he had done specific training with Booth to deal with it. Something old school like spin round a broom 20 times to get real dizzy, then he would deliberately fall over and practiced getting up and clearing his head within 10 seconds and how to grab on if he needed some more time. He did this repeatedly I believe as part of regular training.

There is no doubt his chin "developed" in the heavyweight division. Yes he was down more than once vs Barrett as I remember (not all counted obviously), yet against Chisora (ok not a huge puncher) and in particular Wlad (definitely a huge puncher) he took several shots flush and dealt with them fine. The knockdown v Wlad that got counted was a joke as no punch was thrown, but the ref (and the rest of us) just lost patience with Haye's probably ill-advised "lean on me and I will fall down" routine.

So I agree there are some lessons there for Khan. As with most non-heavyweights, he is probably never going to campaign at his natural walking around weight (which I'd guess would be around middle), so making weight is always going to be a factor for him. Therefore, while Hunter is obviously going to be working further on his defensive technique (although I think that report Nelson did with Hunter with all the little nudges and blocks was a bit rubbish to be honest), he may have to accept he is going to be visiting the canvas in more fights than not, and therefore learn how to clear his head, grab on, and accept he's lost a round 10-8 and its not the end of the world. If he'd had those skills vs Garcia then arguably wins that fight 8 or 9 times out of ten.

If he continues to let his spuds rule his head and decide having been put down he needs to have a war then he is going to lose more often than not.

[TJ77]

I wonder whether this thread with turn into one where half the posters write 14 paragraphs stating they have nothing against muslims but just they dont lik amir khans persona, only for the remaining posters to accuse them of racism. And then 15 pages later........

Bores me too hard to not react when people post complete bollocks that contradict the facts though.

[TJ77]

Question being lets say he beats both Garcia and Peterson in re-matches - big if but could happen.

He will then hold wins over Kotelnik, Judah, Peterson, Garcia, Maidana, Malignaggi which for anyones money is a good resume.

Would YOU give him any credit?

Malignaggi not a puncher
Judah is shot as was Barrera conveniently left off the list.
Massive help from the ref in th Maidana fight.
Kotelnik is the only genuine credible win on the list and that was at home for a World title .

Give him credit you have to earn credit.

He earned massive credit in Maidana fight. Showed great courage that night and boxed his way through a tough round. To say that wasn't a "credible" win shows you are just pointlessly trying to pick holes. You may as well say Marquez should have been stopped in the first round against Pacquiao in fight one (Khan was not knocked down by Maidana) so the rest of that fight and maybe even the subsequent fights (if you want to push it as they'd never have been a rematch in a one-round blow-out) were only because of Massive help from the referee.

He was out on his feet in the tenth ref jumped in again giving him time to clear his head .Had he not Maidana would have finished him.
Wont continue posting as its a merry go round of opinions which benefit no one.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Khan's biggest mistake is that he employed family members and friends to do jobs they are not remotely qualified to do.

His dad especially, is a disaster. They should never put a live mic in that guys hands ever again.

Amir does seem a bit wooden and unnatural in interviews, but he is hardly an unpleasant character.

Compare Khan to Nigel Benn (A dark, disturbing, unpleasant individual) I have never heard anyone say they didn't like Benn because of his character.

[dbf]

To be fair to Khan he turned over as a pro quite young, he didn't have the benefit of the current support that top amateurs have now. He was 17 when he won his olympic medal, barely, a senior boxer.

Its to be expected that he's made some stupid decisions - driving dangerously, tweeting stupidly at times and blaming everyone and everything following a loss, but ultimately he is still young and still learning.

But lets face it, after years of hatton defending the WBU belt before stepping up, and Calzaghe only boxing faded legends in America, Khan went out to the states with a US promoter and has given us nothing but big exciting fights and has won a couple of genuine world titles. As a fan you have to respect that more than sitting at home filling up a 20,000 stadium and boxing nobodys whilst promising after every fight that the next one will be the big one.

[The 1bangkid]

To be fair to Khan he turned over as a pro quite young, he didn't have the benefit of the current support that top amateurs have now. He was 17 when he won his olympic medal, barely, a senior boxer.

Its to be expected that he's made some stupid decisions - driving dangerously, tweeting stupidly at times and blaming everyone and everything following a loss, but ultimately he is still young and still learning.

But lets face it, after years of hatton defending the WBU belt before stepping up, and Calzaghe only boxing faded legends in America, Khan went out to the states with a US promoter and has given us nothing but big exciting fights and has won a couple of genuine world titles. As a fan you have to respect that more than sitting at home filling up a 20,000 stadium and boxing nobodys whilst promising after every fight that the next one will be the big one.

[black panther]

To be fair to Khan he turned over as a pro quite young, he didn't have the benefit of the current support that top amateurs have now. He was 17 when he won his olympic medal, barely, a senior boxer.

Its to be expected that he's made some stupid decisions - driving dangerously, tweeting stupidly at times and blaming everyone and everything following a loss, but ultimately he is still young and still learning.

But lets face it, after years of hatton defending the WBU belt before stepping up, and Calzaghe only boxing faded legends in America, Khan went out to the states with a US promoter and has given us nothing but big exciting fights and has won a couple of genuine world titles. As a fan you have to respect that more than sitting at home filling up a 20,000 stadium and boxing nobodys whilst promising after every fight that the next one will be the big one.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Its to be expected that he's made some stupid decisions - driving dangerously, tweeting stupidly at times and blaming everyone and everything following a loss,

What a despicable character, a disgrace to the game.

Never before have we seen such a lowlife in our great sport.

[banjo]

Khan's biggest mistake is that he employed family members and friends to do jobs they are not remotely qualified to do.

His dad especially, is a disaster. They should never put a live mic in that guys hands ever again.

Amir does seem a bit wooden and unnatural in interviews, but he is hardly an unpleasant character.

Compare Khan to Nigel Benn (A dark, disturbing, unpleasant individual) I have never heard anyone say they didn't like Benn because of his character.

It is funny though, always reminds me of the outpouring of grief on boxing forums when convicted wife-beater Diego Corrales 3 times over the limit decided to ride a high performance motorbike and killed himself and endangered other road users in the process, yet Amir Khan is a bastard, a fornicating BASTARD I TELL YA! and 10 million times worse for....um...running a bloke over.

[JLP]

KG is correct. Khan's image problem is largely down to the people he has got around him. They're probably decent enough people but you wouldn't give the keys to Sellafield to Katie Price and Louis Spence.

[jonnyyorkshu]

Khan's biggest mistake is that he employed family members and friends to do jobs they are not remotely qualified to do.

His dad especially, is a disaster. They should never put a live mic in that guys hands ever again.

Amir does seem a bit wooden and unnatural in interviews, but he is hardly an unpleasant character.

Compare Khan to Nigel Benn (A dark, disturbing, unpleasant individual) I have never heard anyone say they didn't like Benn because of his character.

It is funny though, always reminds me of the outpouring of grief on boxing forums when convicted wife-beater Diego Corrales 3 times over the limit decided to ride a high performance motorbike and killed himself and endangered other road users in the process, yet Amir Khan is a bastard, a effing BASTARD I TELL YA! and 10 million times worse for....um...running a bloke over.

Who did Chicco hurt?
Who did Khan hurt?
Your point is mute!