How to Set Up a Amateur Boxing Show

[HomicideHenry]

Anyone know the requirements, costs, procedures that need to be followed?

Jesus bless.

[scallum]

Probably be best to contact you Lbc local boxing commission. Shooukd be very low costs as don't have to.pay fighteres for nada. Teams even come up with own travels, lodging n meal money. Amateurs fighters get zero help.

[Slythex]

Granted, I have never personally set up and run a show. But I was looking into it at one point and priced out a few things:

Costs
Sanction Fee: 350 (varies with LBC)
Doc Fee: 300
Ring Rental/Set up: 400
Venue Rental: big variations, although sometimes you can get this for free (or allow the venue to make money off the concessions)
other potential costs: ring announcer (some get paid), chair rental

Revenues
Tickets: 20 ea (we don't have huge turnouts for our events, though, so 100 paying customers (20x100=2,000 on income).
50/50 raffle: good ones seem to make about 200 or so for the club
Concessions: I have no idea what this looks like
Sponsored tables: some shows have tables ringside that they sell to sponsors. This seems to generate the bulk of revenue

[JMac]

Granted, I have never personally set up and run a show. But I was looking into it at one point and priced out a few things:

Costs
Sanction Fee: 350 (varies with LBC)
Doc Fee: 300
Ring Rental/Set up: 400
Venue Rental: big variations, although sometimes you can get this for free (or allow the venue to make money off the concessions)
other potential costs: ring announcer (some get paid), chair rental

Revenues
Tickets: 20 ea (we don't have huge turnouts for our events, though, so 100 paying customers (20x100=2,000 on income).
50/50 raffle: good ones seem to make about 200 or so for the club
Concessions: I have no idea what this looks like
Sponsored tables: some shows have tables ringside that they sell to sponsors. This seems to generate the bulk of revenue

If you can get a ring for $400 you are getting a bargin. Most ring guys I know charge like $800-1200 depending on where you live and how well you know the guy.

[Slythex]

Well, the ring guy, is also our LBC COO and I'm good friends with him. That's about what he charges. Basically, he owns a masonry business, and he gives some of his employees a chance to moonlight, so most of the ring fee is paying for their labor. He does charge more for venues that are a pain to access (like when they need to make many trips with an elevator).

He's also got his ring construction down to a science. Everything is color coded, and it doesn't take long at all to put up the ring. Plus, he's a handy guy, so he's tweaked the ring in such a way as to cut down on build time. Like replacing bolts with cotterpins, and stuff like that.

[HomicideHenry]

I know you would have to get a licensed referee, doctor, and the sanction fee. Thanks for a general outline. I got a whole team of kids who would love to do a boxing show. As for the ring, I think buying one would pay off in the end, considering I know many pro wrestling groups, etc. who would pay good money just to rent it.

[scallum]

I know you would have to get a licensed referee, doctor, and the sanction fee. Thanks for a general outline. I got a whole team of kids who would love to do a boxing show. As for the ring, I think buying one would pay off in the end, considering I know many pro wrestling groups, etc. who would pay good money just to rent it.

Where are you trying to do your show?

[Slythex]

Actually, the ref and other officials do not typically have a fee associated.
Basically, when you file for a sanction with your LBC, the LBC's Chief of Officials will ensure that there are officials available for your date. This includes the soup to nuts officiating, including the pre fight administration (clerking), judges, refs and time keeper.

[JMac]

Actually, the ref and other officials do not typically have a fee associated.
Basically, when you file for a sanction with your LBC, the LBC's Chief of Officials will ensure that there are officials available for your date. This includes the soup to nuts officiating, including the pre fight administration (clerking), judges, refs and time keeper.

What LBC are you in? Most LBC's, the officials get something, like $20 which isn't much and so does the doc or you don't get officials or doc. When a kid refereeing youth basketball gets $10-20 a game and they do several games on a saturday or the little league umpire gets $50 a game, if boxing officials don't get something but abuse from coaches and fans, why would anybody subject themselves to that? For the love of the game?...that only last so long then reality sets in like a spouse and children wanting your time, or bills, etc. Lots of shows are run by gyms and they are scraping by to pay the bills to stay open but they do it to get their boxers bouts. Those kind of shows are where maybe officials get little to nothing but when people run shows that make lots of money, the officials better be getting something. Sure the rules say the promoter's are supposed to be giving money back to amateur boxing and most of the time they do but they can still put a nice chunk of change in their pocket. Back around '00, I put on an international club show in Baltimore. The city let us have a city owned arena for free. We made $20,000 after expenses. We gave $10,000 back to the city to use as seed money to open a city parks and rec gym which still exist today and the other $10,000 to the LBC and of course the officials and doc got paid.

[HomicideHenry]

Want to set it up in my home town here in Ohio.

Quick question- does a pro/am show follow the same guidelines as an amateur show?

Like one pro fight in the main go, the rest are amateur matches?

Jesus bless.

[Slythex]

I'm in Allegheny Mountain (basically western PA, with a bit of WV and OH). Some sanction holders give us 'gas money' but most don't. Personally, that's never been an issue for me. That said, we are also somewhat lucky in that our LBC is geographically fairly compact. Outside of Erie, PA or Johnstown, PA, most of our shows are within an hour radius of Pittsburgh.

Our doctors do usually get paid (I think around $350 or so), although I think we do have one regular doc who does it free on a volunteer basis.

Also, to address HomicideHenry's question on pro/ams...
Pro/Am works a bit different as far as sanction fees, but I don't recall the specifics. I think the sanction holder has to pay an extra $100 per amateur bout to a maximum of $500, but don't hold me to that.

We've been having a lot of Pro/Am shows lately, and I'll be honest - I'm not a big fan of them.
The are much more complex administratively because you have the SAC involved as well as the LBC.

[HomicideHenry]

I'm in Allegheny Mountain (basically western PA, with a bit of WV and OH). Some sanction holders give us 'gas money' but most don't. Personally, that's never been an issue for me. That said, we are also somewhat lucky in that our LBC is geographically fairly compact. Outside of Erie, PA or Johnstown, PA, most of our shows are within an hour radius of Pittsburgh.

Our doctors do usually get paid (I think around $350 or so), although I think we do have one regular doc who does it free on a volunteer basis.

Also, to address HomicideHenry's question on pro/ams...
Pro/Am works a bit different as far as sanction fees, but I don't recall the specifics. I think the sanction holder has to pay an extra $100 per amateur bout to a maximum of $500, but don't hold me to that.

We've been having a lot of Pro/Am shows lately, and I'll be honest - I'm not a big fan of them.
The are much more complex administratively because you have the SAC involved as well as the LBC.

Well if you can get a quote on the specifics of what it takes to do a pro/am let me know. Last night was talking to a friend in the business, and they said something to the extent that for a pro/am you have to have a specific amount of rounds to fill the requirements; say 24 rounds for ams, 24 for pros, so you would have to have either 4- 4 rounders, or two 12 rounders for the pros. I dont know if this is correct but I am hoping its not, so could do at least one pro fight on a show, rather than go through more bs. Cus if thats the extravegance, I'm better off putting on amateur mma shows because it is far less of a headache.

[Slythex]

I never heard that, although I don't deal with that sort of thing, so my ignorance doesn't mean anything here. But it doesn't sound right to me. I've seen pro/ams with 1 pro bout and a few amateurs, and then 5 pro bouts and 1 amateur.

I'd recommend talking to the registration chair (or whoever handles sanctions) for your LBC.

[HomicideHenry]

I never heard that, although I don't deal with that sort of thing, so my ignorance doesn't mean anything here. But it doesn't sound right to me. I've seen pro/ams with 1 pro bout and a few amateurs, and then 5 pro bouts and 1 amateur.

I'd recommend talking to the registration chair (or whoever handles sanctions) for your LBC.

I appreciate the input. Jesus bless.