Kelson Pinto - 20 or 21 fights!

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Kelson Pinto - 20 or 21 fights!

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Reading a few pieces on Kelson Pinto on the web, I was confused as to why many cited the Brazilian's record as 21-0 (19).
Boxrec has him at 20-0 [18].
Annoyingly, when I checked boxing-records.com, they have him at the 21-0. The discrepancy is a March 31, 2001 fight in Lauro de Freitas, Brazil, where Pinto apparently knocked out Cirilo Coronel in one round.
Can anyone confirm if this fight happened?
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It did, i was ringside with some Brazilian beauties :D Sometimes these small time bouts can cause havoc with fighters records, chances are if he fought or not he probably won by KO.
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Re: Kelson Pinto - 20 or 21 fights!

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bennie wrote:Reading a few pieces on Kelson Pinto on the web, I was confused as to why many cited the Brazilian's record as 21-0 (19).
Boxrec has him at 20-0 [18].
Annoyingly, when I checked boxing-records.com, they have him at the 21-0. The discrepancy is a March 31, 2001 fight in Lauro de Freitas, Brazil, where Pinto apparently knocked out Cirilo Coronel in one round.
Can anyone confirm if this fight happened?
I've noticed that the SKY coverage of the Hatton - Pinto card is a 2hr30mins show. We should get to see plenty of action then. :D
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Re: Kelson Pinto - 20 or 21 fights!

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KOJOE90 wrote:
bennie wrote:Reading a few pieces on Kelson Pinto on the web, I was confused as to why many cited the Brazilian's record as 21-0 (19).
Boxrec has him at 20-0 [18].
Annoyingly, when I checked boxing-records.com, they have him at the 21-0. The discrepancy is a March 31, 2001 fight in Lauro de Freitas, Brazil, where Pinto apparently knocked out Cirilo Coronel in one round.
Can anyone confirm if this fight happened?
I've noticed that the SKY coverage of the Hatton - Pinto card is a 2hr30mins show. We should get to see plenty of action then. :D
Great, although when you look at the four main fights: Hatton-Pinto, Mitchell-Stewart, Gomez-Odumasi and Barnes-McClarnon, the winners are obvious.
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bennie wrote:Great, although when you look at the four main fights: Hatton-Pinto, Mitchell-Stewart, Gomez-Odumasi and Barnes-McClarnon, the winners are obvious.
True, but you have to admit the main event is an excellent fight.
With a big hitter like Pinto in there, everyone's going to be on the edge of their seat when the first bell rings.
Hatton is favorite, but there's always the chance the Brazilian could be a lot better than we're expecting.
I really hope Ricky wins this, but I'll defintely be putting a few quid on a Pinto upset at those odds.
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Whilst I'm not going for the upset don't write off Michael Stewart, he's not bad. Shamba Mitchell is an excellent fighter, but most times sky have covered him he has been poor. Remember he had a major struggle with Vince Phillips who Hatton beat up nicely.

Michael Stewart is one of those guys who eveyone seems to underate. Kurt Ermhoff (who is a very caring manager) really was convinced that he matched Millet well because he didn't consider Stewart a puncher and Stewart had quite a large following cause of some good ESPN TV fights. Millett was looking good in training and Kurt was confident of the win. He has said that this was one of the biggest mistakes as a manager, whilst he said Terron was obviously shot, he did remark that he underestimated Stewart an awful lot.

I have seen bigger upsets.
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70-30 bouts all the way on that card.

Except for Hatton's, that is 80-20. :lol:
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Southpaw Stylist wrote:70-30 bouts all the way on that card.

Except for Hatton's, that is 80-20. :lol:
I don't know, I'm buying into this Pinto Hype big style. I'd say 70-30 Mitchell vs Stewart, 60-40 Hatton vs Pinto; the other two look like mismatches to be honest.
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bennie wrote:although when you look at the four main fights: Hatton-Pinto, Mitchell-Stewart, Gomez-Odumasi and Barnes-McClarnon, the winners are obvious.
Barring the Barnes fight, an upset isn't out of the question is any of them IMO.
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THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH:
Boxing: Hatton eschews fast food for swift wins
By Mike Lewis

The curry-house owners of Manchester may be missing his custom, but one-time fast-food enthusiast Ricky Hatton believes his spartan new lifestyle has fuelled him with the necessary hunger to overcome Brazilian puncher Kelson Pinto in the most dangerous test of his spectacular 34-fight career at Manchester's MEN Arena on Saturday.


Spartan: Ricky Hatton (left), who has adjusted his lifestyle and become a more calculating fighter

In a clash of unbeaten fighters, a leaner and meaner Hatton, who regularly attracts crowds of 16,000, meets a tall, hard-hitting opponent who has stopped 18 of his 20 victims. The risks posed by a thunderous hitter like Pinto are clearly not lost on Hatton's promoter, allegedly, who expressed concern about a man he describes as British boxing's biggest ticket-seller in 25 years. "This is a 50-50 fight," he warned.

Something clearly has got to give yet Hatton, the World Boxing Union light-welterweight champion whose tough pre-fight rhetoric is nevertheless invariably laced with charm and good humour, speaks with the conviction of a fighter approaching his peak. "I want to drag Pinto into a war and take him to places he's never been before," he said. "I know I cannot get careless for even a split-second."

The fight, which Hatton predicts will be short and explosive, has been given added spice by the possibility that the World Boxing Organisation crown, expected to be vacated by American Zab Judah, may also be on the line.

"I'm a much more calculating fighter nowadays," said the Mancunian who widely outpointed tough Ghanaian Ben Tackie on his last outing, "but you could be seeing a bit of the old Ricky Hatton on Saturday."

Aware that 15 of Pinto's victims have succumbed in the opening round, Hatton - who produced a performance of discipline and maturity against Tackie said: "Pinto's a tremendous fighter, but there are question-marks over his chin and stamina." he said.

"I've been cut and come back to win; I've been knocked down (by Eamonn Magee) and won. Whenever Pinto wants to rest I'll be putting my foot on the gas. My entire career has been geared for fights like this and I'm not going to blow it now."

Hatton, who freely admits that much of his spare time was formerly spent in Manchester's burger bars and Indian restaurants, is a much more disciplined figure nowadays having become aware that the dreams he has harboured since taking up boxing at the age of 10 are now tantalisingly within reach. A superfight with Arturo Gatti could be just around the corner.

"My lifestyle has changed over the last 12 months," said Hatton. "I now know more about diet, weight and weight control. Everything seems to be coming together and I feel bigger and more powerful at the weight. Yes, I've looked at tapes of Pinto and they were a bit frightening. Then you look at them again and start weighing things up more carefully. I've spotted weaknesses which I will exploit."

Hatton's nemesis, Junior Witter, was being lined up for a shot against Pinto last year only to withdraw claiming a hand injury. While cynics would regard this as a smart career move, Hatton, whose dislike of the Bradford-based Witter is palpable, relishes the chance to defeat the man he claims his long-time rival avoided.

He said: "Witter's been saying I am running scared of him so it is ironic I'm taking on the fellow he wouldn't fight."
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