This infuriates me about mainstream "sports journalists"

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This infuriates me about mainstream "sports journalists"

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So Des Kelly, a "sports journalist" in a major national newspaper, writes an opinion column on a Saturday (link here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... Kelly.html )

In the main body if his column he's talking about ANOTHER alleged racist incident in football. Then at the bottom he gives his tuppence worth on a couple of boxing stories (Bellew, Guerrero) and sarcastically concludes it with "stay classy, boxing".

The man clearly hasn't bothered to study the detail of either story before making comment, and instead seems to have picked out a couple of headlines and used them as a stick to beat boxing with. He calls himself a "sports journalist", yet snobbishly sneers at a sport he may not like.

With prominent columnists making comments like these in widely-distributed nationals, no wonder people get turned off the sport. And they're only being given a fraction of the full story. Not even a mention of what a great fight it could be, or the dedication & professionalism of the contestants (and those on the undercard).

The saving grace is that it's a sell-out at the Echo, and it should be a good show on Sky Sports. But seeing half-arsed journalism like this really p!sses me off.
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Boxing only appeals to "Proper Journalist" when there's a mega-fight and their angling for a ringside seat. They never cover said fighter on their way to the big fights, they hop on board at the end.

The printed press is long dead, it's just propaganda against whomever they wish to declare war on.

There's the odd one or two who cover it well, but in the main our sport is ignored.
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The Daily Mail seems to only care about football and cricket, though they became experts on MotoGP a couple of years ago when there was a death and I think Hayes brawl with Chisora got a lot of attention.
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anyone who is known as a "sports journalist" needs to be ignored. my tip is to read only those who are known as
"sports writers"

how i mourn the loss of real journalism (sports or otherwise)

i'm currently reading WAYWARD REPORTER by RAY ZOLOKOV which documents the great days of journalism via one of its greatest practitioners. what a book
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G0mez wrote:Boxing only appeals to "Proper Journalist" when there's a mega-fight and their angling for a ringside seat. They never cover said fighter on their way to the big fights, they hop on board at the end.

The printed press is long dead, it's just propaganda against whomever they wish to declare war on.

There's the odd one or two who cover it well, but in the main our sport is ignored.
Spot on...

Most 'sports journalists/writers' are only usually interested in the big sports and even then football is king with most of them.
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I don't like him.
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Daily Mail....enough said.
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MachoMan09 wrote:I won't read the link. Des Kelly is cast from the same mold as Richard Littlejohn and similar lowest common denominator hacks. They know their audience.
Kelly is the worst. Littlejohn doesn't pretend to be anything else, as far as I know.
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I remember Patrick Collins in the Mail on Sunday making comment on the Sprott-Gerber I incident. Sprott represented everything wrong with British boxing according to him.
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Hence why I and many others refuse to read the tabloids. Their sales are dwindling and is it any wonder.

Shit journo's, shit stories, lots of spin and rarely print anything honest and worthy of news. They all work towards there own agenda's and as far as I am concerned, they can go, 'Do one'. Haven't spent a single penny of a newspaper for over 15yrs and not going to start now.
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Sports journalists take themselves too seriously.

Isn't sport journalism referred to as toy town by those in the business?

Be refreshing to see them simply reporting on proceedings instead of throwing their opinion about willy nilly as if it matters. "Chief" sports journos are usually the worst. Martin Samuel is a cock, so is that bald Patrick Stewart lookalike who acts like he taught Mourinho and Ferguson the art of football management in between giving Clive Woodward ideas in how to win the World Cup.
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bengulnaci1 wrote:Hence why I and many others refuse to read the tabloids. Their sales are dwindling and is it any wonder.

poo journo's, poo stories, lots of spin and rarely print anything honest and worthy of news. They all work towards there own agenda's and as far as I am concerned, they can go, 'Do one'. Haven't spent a single penny of a newspaper for over 15yrs and not going to start now.
Not even for Dear Deidre!?!?
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MachoMan09 wrote:I won't read the link. Des Kelly is cast from the same mold as Richard Littlejohn and similar lowest common denominator hacks. They know their audience.
Aren't you dissmissing them in the same way that Kelly dissmissed boxing with his articles. All journalist are the same, they have to decide who is their readership and what stance they will take. Hopefully, whether you agree with them or not, they take a stance on principal and not just for headlines. Most journalists have an agenda, it's just that you are less likely to see that agenda if you like the journalist or agree with the main premise of his arguments or debates / point of view.
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If you want some infuriating journalism check this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... owell.html

Poor little Jeff feels so disgruntled that he is not allowed in the press conference that he feels the need to have a picture shown with every famous boxer he has ever met to show how important he is.
Even labels Hayes a buffoon!
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Coco wrote:If you want some infuriating journalism check this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... owell.html

Poor little Jeff feels so disgruntled that he is not allowed in the press conference that he feels the need to have a picture shown with every famous boxer he has ever met to show how important he is.
Even labels Hayes a buffoon!
Why was he kicked out of the press conference?

Powell's article didn't seem that bad to me.
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Coco wrote:If you want some infuriating journalism check this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... owell.html

Poor little Jeff feels so disgruntled that he is not allowed in the press conference that he feels the need to have a picture shown with every famous boxer he has ever met to show how important he is.
Even labels Hayes a buffoon!
I read that. Obviously Jeff wasn't bothered about being banned lol.
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MachoMan09 wrote:
Quixall wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:I won't read the link. Des Kelly is cast from the same mold as Richard Littlejohn and similar lowest common denominator hacks. They know their audience.
Aren't you dissmissing them in the same way that Kelly dissmissed boxing with his articles. All journalist are the same, they have to decide who is their readership and what stance they will take. Hopefully, whether you agree with them or not, they take a stance on principal and not just for headlines. Most journalists have an agenda, it's just that you are less likely to see that agenda if you like the journalist or agree with the main premise of his arguments or debates / point of view.
I know what I like and I don't like Des Kelly. Plenty of people do, though, so I don't think he'll lose any sleep over it.
i'm sure of that too
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Gawd! I'm past 50 and I haven't paid to read a "real newspaper" in years. As for boxing news it only exists on the internet.

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I never read newspapers, and if I did, I would not let it upset me, let alone infuriate me!!
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Not a fan of Des Kelly but hard to argue with the majority of the sentiment of the piece.

Jeff Powell's piece on the other hand (look who I know, arent I great) was abysmal.
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