John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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orbtastic
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Re: John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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Duce, can I just ask you two questions?

First is, where do you get the majority of your info from? Google docs?

Second is, why do you continually put words like 'vacant' and 'stripped' in single quotes?
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Re: John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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Was this televised in the U.S.?
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Re: John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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Il Duce wrote:The Fight,

Referee- Harry Gibbs was the 'sole official'.

John Conteh had 'decent Round 1, as he utilized his long and lethal left jab, and scored with precise jabs.

But, Jorge Ahumada bulled forward in Round 2, and showed off his incredible strength, while scoring with
several hard left hooks to the body, and a couple of right-hand smashes.

Picking up the action in Round 3, Conteh started using his 'rapid-fire' left jabs, and 3" reach advantage to
keep the 'burly' Argentinian outside. John realized the best way to fend off Ahumuda, was to box and dodge, and
not trade with the heavier-fisted Argentinian.

In Rounds 4, 5 and 6 - Conteh was precise with his left jab, and backed it up with 'double-hits' to keep Ahumada
off balance. Each time that the Argentinina attacked, John would dodge and counter with a quick left hook / straight
right hand.

Behind on Points entering Round 7, Ahumuda stepped up his pace, and was able to get closer to Conteh. When close,
Ahumada started to use his hard left hooks to the body, and then brought a few left hooks up to John's head. Ahumada had
stemmed the tide of the bout, and changed the flow of the fight with some good punches late in Round 7.

John Conteh was now in a fight.

Thru 7-Rounds, the Scorecard was 4-2-1 in John Conteh's favor.
If Gibbs was the sole official, why does Boxrec list this as an SD?
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Re: John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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Il Duce wrote:Because they were told misinformation.

Harry Gibbs had it a 5-Point swing,,,,,,,,,,147-142 {8-3-4 in Rounds}.

Harry Gibbs Scorecards

John Conteh ........ 10 - 9 - 10 - 10 - 10 ....10 - 9 -- 9 -- 10 - 10 .... 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 = {147}
Jorge Ahumada ..... 9 -10 - 10 --9 -- 9 ...... 9 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 .... 10 -- 9 -- 9 ---9 --- 9 = {142}

Harry Gibbs was more than generous to John Conteh in Rounds 9, 10 and 11 - as each of those '3' Rounds
could have been scored for Jorge Ahumada.

* John Conteh fought very smart up thru Round 6.
* Jorge Ahumada put the 'wood' to John Conteh in Rounds 7 and 8, as Conteh was in a 'fight for his life' as the
British Press stated.
* Jorge Ahumada put good pressure on John Conteh in Rounds 9 and 10.
* John Conteh was in some difficulty in Round 11 and looked to be fading, until he landed a good left-right late
in the Round that turned the flow of the fight.
* Jorge Ahumada slowed down signifcantly after Round 11, and his punches were slow and infrequent.
* From Rounds 12 thru 15, John Conteh was precise with his left jab, and scored with several sharp 'one-two's,
and swept the last 4-Rounds.

Fight Purse,
* John Conteh......... $100,000
* Jorge Ahumada..... $100,000

* KO Mundial scored the bout for John Conteh 145-144 {6-5-4 in Rounds}, and suggested a 'rematch'.
If you have a link, you should post it in Record Queries to correct the record. When I saw your post (original one), I was really confused because of it.
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Re: John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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Il Duce wrote:Because they were told misinformation.

Harry Gibbs had it a 5-Point swing,,,,,,,,,,147-142 {8-3-4 in Rounds}.

Harry Gibbs Scorecards

John Conteh ........ 10 - 9 - 10 - 10 - 10 ....10 - 9 -- 9 -- 10 - 10 .... 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 = {147}
Jorge Ahumada ..... 9 -10 -- 9 -- 9 -- 9 ...... 9 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 .... 10 - 9 -- 9 ---9 -- 10 = {142}

Harry Gibbs was more than generous to John Conteh in Rounds 9, 10 and 11 - as each of those '3' Rounds
could have been scored for Jorge Ahumada.

* John Conteh fought very smart up thru Round 6.
* Jorge Ahumada put the 'wood' to John Conteh in Rounds 7 and 8, as Conteh was in a 'fight for his life' as the
British Press stated.
* Jorge Ahumada put good pressure on John Conteh in Rounds 9 and 10.
* John Conteh was in some difficulty in Round 11 and looked to be fading, until he landed a good left-right late
in the Round that turned the flow of the fight.
* Jorge Ahumada slowed down signifcantly after Round 11, and his punches were slow and infrequent.
* In Rounds 12, 13 and 14, John Conteh was precise with his left jab, and scored with several sharp 'one-two's,
and swept these Rounds.

Fight Purse,
* John Conteh......... $100,000
* Jorge Ahumada..... $100,000

* KO Mundial scored the bout for John Conteh 145-144 {6-5-4 in Rounds}, and suggested a 'rematch'.
Wow, we gripe about today's crappy scoring by judges. Imagine being a contender and having to go to your opponent's country and the ref and sole judge is one of your opponent's locals refs. Not saying the scoring was bad in this fight per se, but that's a hell of a burden
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Re: John Conteh vs. Jorge Ahumada 'October 1, 1974'

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Il Duce wrote:Sorry About That,,,,,,

Jorge Ahumada asked the WBC to grant him a rematch with John Conteh, and within 90-Days.

John Conteh was not that all excited about giving the tough Argentinian an immediate rematch.

Jorge Ahumada in KO Mundial, "I lost, but I'm still the next best Light Heavyweight out there."
No, Jorge, you weren't.
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