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Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 31 May 2013, 22:27
by Rover
I'd take Ward; Nunn was a little off his middle best. Around 8-4.

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 01 Jun 2013, 17:39
by gilgamesh
Ward UD

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 01 Jun 2013, 18:43
by giacomino
Ward. Nunn could look really good at times (re: Kalamby, Frank Tate, Roldan, most of the Toney fight) but he could also go to sleep in fights. Ward outpoints him probably 8-4 or 7-4-1

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 01 Jun 2013, 19:00
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:id take nunn by close decision

im doing the hypothetical that nunn is still at his peak and decides to go and fight ward at 68

nunn was a huge MW
I'm basing my pick off of what Nunn did at 68.

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 01 Jun 2013, 19:06
by Rover
giacomino wrote:Ward. Nunn could look really good at times (re: Kalamby, Frank Tate, Roldan, most of the Toney fight) but he could also go to sleep in fights. Ward outpoints him probably 8-4 or 7-4-1
Damn, we even agree on the margin of victory.
:salut:

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 03 Jun 2013, 09:59
by Bricks
Ward would be up for this he had already thrown his career away from a box office point of view when he lost to lesser men like Little and Liles.

The late 80s Nunn was a far far more talented fighter and on his best day he would win. Any man who could outbox a peak Toney like that for 8-9 rounds....man

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 03 Jun 2013, 10:26
by giacomino
mugabi wrote:Ward would be up for this he had already thrown his career away from a box office point of view when he lost to lesser men like Little and Liles.

The late 80s Nunn was a far far more talented fighter and on his best day he would win. Any man who could outbox a peak Toney like that for 8-9 rounds....man
Certainly agree at middleweight. He was spectacular at times. At super middle, I don't remember seeing him in a fight where he had the same spark. He was certainly good enough to beat most at 168, but, IMO, he wasn't nearly as dominant as he was before the Toney KO

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 08:11
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:hypothetically nunn could still be in MW form and just bounce up to smw

its obvious after the toney loss his confidence wasnt the same
Some guys can't transfer their talents to different divisions.

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 05 Jun 2013, 06:23
by Bricks
I think more or less by the time he was at SM nunn was a lost cause. He had blown his shot at superstardom which he had threatened to grab during the summer of 89 with the perception that he had won a lucklustre victories over Barkley and Starling. I personally thought these were good wins but then he got the new york boxing media cabal on his back running him down. He broke up with Surkein and his management and they crucified him in the press and amongst some of the power brokers. His attitude was bad at this time and when Hearns, SRL and Duran no longer became viable the moment was gone.

The fact he fought so safety first during this time after the impressive run of stopping Tate, Kalambay and Roldan was a shame. Certainly he had the tools to stop Barkley.

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 05 Jun 2013, 15:33
by mrbassie
mugabi wrote:Ward would be up for this he had already thrown his career away from a box office point of view when he lost to lesser men like Little and Liles.

The late 80s Nunn was a far far more talented fighter and on his best day he would win. Any man who could outbox a peak Toney like that for 8-9 rounds....man
Really though, that didn't happen imho. I know that's what it said on the commentary but if you watch it to me it looks rather more like a gradual dismantling. Angelo Dundee apparently agreed with me.

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 05 Jun 2013, 22:56
by Rover
mrbassie wrote:
mugabi wrote:Ward would be up for this he had already thrown his career away from a box office point of view when he lost to lesser men like Little and Liles.

The late 80s Nunn was a far far more talented fighter and on his best day he would win. Any man who could outbox a peak Toney like that for 8-9 rounds....man
Really though, that didn't happen imho. I know that's what it said on the commentary but if you watch it to me it looks rather more like a gradual dismantling. Angelo Dundee apparently agreed with me.
Yeah, Nunn won the first 7; then Toney took over.

Re: Ward/Nunn at super middle.

Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 05:48
by Vladimir5555
Ward W12