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Is it really a boxers ability not to go down or their ability to recover ?

Bit of both like Tyson Fury goes down easy, but is never all over the place.

WelshJack wrote:Bit of both like Tyson Fury goes down easy, but is never all over the place.

Well... not yet.

The one that gets hit very rarely I think you'll find

Bomber 1 wrote:The one that gets hit very rarely I think you'll find

lol, that proves nothing about their chin. good chinned fighters recover quickly.

Yeah for me getting knocked down a lot doesn't necessarily mean a bad chin. Naz got put down a lot in his career but I can't think of a single time after all the knockdowna he suffered that I thought he was in danger of getting stopped.

jameswilson wrote:Yeah for me getting knocked down a lot doesn't necessarily mean a bad chin. Naz got put down a lot in his career but I can't think of a single time after all the knockdowna he suffered that I thought he was in danger of getting stopped.

Indeed. Bellew (who posted earlier in this thread), Fury, Naz and Tito Trinidad are a few examples of fighters who have illustrated great recovery after getting knocked down. All of whom have good chins.

The definition of a good chin is Larry Holmes and Marvin Hagler.

Mind you, Calzaghe had a great chin. He might go down, but he gets up clear headed.

In conclusion:

The ability to take full power shots on the chin and never/rarely going down + quick recovery rate in the event of going down = Good chin.

Rocky balboa, he's like a boxing dummy, just bounces right back up

Jimmy Hill and Will Young are other good examples of good chins.

bobby vanzie had a superb chin, I saw him unconscious with rolling eyes on the floor and still made the count and was ready to box on, and then win by stoppage.

The direct opposite of Paul 'Scrap Iron' Ryan's chin is a good chin ......

Bruno had a good chin just didn't come close tie up, Mercer had an Iron Jaw also Lebedev the punishment he was shipping took its toll on his face!!
Bennie Briscoe was nails and Eubank had a great chin

matko wrote:Bruno had a good chin just didn't come close tie up, Mercer had an Iron Jaw also Lebedev the punishment he was shipping took its toll on his face!!
Bennie Briscoe was nails and Eubank had a great chin

God I was just starting to forget about lebedev's face!

freddydoesdallas wrote:

matko wrote:Bruno had a good chin just didn't come close tie up, Mercer had an Iron Jaw also Lebedev the punishment he was shipping took its toll on his face!!
Bennie Briscoe was nails and Eubank had a great chin

God I was just starting to forget about lebedev's face!

I'd say it was Jones who showed the chin in that fight. Lededev landed flush about 50 times and never moved him.

forcefraser wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

matko wrote:Bruno had a good chin just didn't come close tie up, Mercer had an Iron Jaw also Lebedev the punishment he was shipping took its toll on his face!!
Bennie Briscoe was nails and Eubank had a great chin

God I was just starting to forget about lebedev's face!

I'd say it was Jones who showed the chin in that fight. Lededev landed flush about 50 times and never moved him.

Definatly as Lebedev can punch but jones tested positive for something, he was hitting hard Lebedev face a mess was sore to touch after he was in pain he is seriously tough to take that ort of punishment look like he been hit by a bat

Question is how are some humans able to withstand power were others would be snoozing??

Is it they don't close there eyes & register punches?? Thicker skulls??? Stronger necks,more or thicker brain fluid.

Best chins for me are James toney,oliver mcall,bhop,Chavez snr

Henry Wharton's chin withstood full power shots from world class punchers without ever looking remotely hurt. The only time he got dropped(caught very square on) it seemed to wake him up and he finished the job.

Its two points really.
There's a good chin and there's good recovery powers.
You can become a good fighter with either one of the qualities but with both you can be a great fighter.

Carl Froch, Evander Holyfield and David Tua all have amazing chins.

Clint Magnum wrote:Its two points really.
There's a good chin and there's good recovery powers.
You can become a good fighter with either one of the qualities but with both you can be a great fighter.

True,but I have both & I'm still poo!i think a lot of it is down to being relaxed.some go stiff when there's a shot on its way to them.which is a lot to do with ko's

johnnygreaves wrote:

Clint Magnum wrote:Its two points really.
There's a good chin and there's good recovery powers.
You can become a good fighter with either one of the qualities but with both you can be a great fighter.

True,but I have both & I'm still poo!i think a lot of it is down to being relaxed.some go stiff when there's a shot on its way to them.which is a lot to do with ko's

Definitely agree Johnny. Especially if you go stiff immediately after the first good shot which is usually psychological!
Look at Kovalev Saturday night. So relaxed when going forward and more importantly even when getting hit. On a more domestic level I've reffed the likes of Sid Razak and Jody Meikle who also prove this like yourself. The reason why so many so called journeymen hardly ket KO'd isn't cause they fight negative, it's because they are relaxed under pressure and ride a lot of the shots.
Bruno springs to mind as the opposite of this example. If only he could have learned that skill he'd have been a truly fearsome fighter.

hurlock wrote:Question is how are some humans able to withstand power were others would be snoozing??

Is it they don't close there eyes & register punches?? Thicker skulls??? Stronger necks,more or thicker brain fluid.

Best chins for me are James toney,oliver mcall,bhop,Chavez snr

A strong neck doesn't automatically give you a good chin but it helps absorb a punch which can prevent the horrible snapping movement. Look at Holyfield/Hagler. Solid necks, great beard

Great chins come in all shapes and sizes. There have been fighters with pencil thin necks with great chins and also fighters with a massive neck that couldn't hold a shot.

Ali had a half decent chin