Mersey Fighters 3 - research underway

[merseybox]

Writing it with my good mate Chris Walker - interviewed a few ex scouse pros already with lots more to come before Christmas - hope to be published November 2014 with launch night in an as yet to be confirmed venue that will be the one and only time for you to get any copies signed etc;

Ritchie Wenton
Nigel Wenton
Noel Quarless
Tony Mock
Tony Willis
Paul Lloyd
Sammy Brennan
Gordon Kirk
Steve Harkin
Nick Quigley
Jamie McKeever
Billy Seasman
Alan Levene
Peter Culshaw
Terry Culshaw
Kenny Rainford
Tony Cunningham
Alan Dean
George Turpin
Dave Maj
John Hyland
Sugar Gibiliru
John Naylor
George Naylor
Frank Hope
Gary Yean
Kenny Rainford
Stuart Rimmer
Craig Lyon
Dennis Oakes
Andreas Panayi
George Vaughan
Charlie Atkinson
and many more incl shorter pieces on likes of Ray Ako and Carl Speare - sadly passed on now.

If anyone knows what Floyd Churchill is doing now please let me know haha

Gary Shaw

[hurlock]

Did dick tiger reside in merseyside??

[King Tubby]

*merseybox* Do you know the pub, quite close to Lime Street, got pictures on the walls of Scouse boxers, McAteers, etc. Went in there by chance years ago, i'm up there the weekend, might have another look in, can't remember where it was though. Thanks.

[Chris W 1982]

Paul Edwards is another name going in

[CharlesListon]

Did dick tiger reside in merseyside??

Yeah he did. I know he wasn't active, but Earnie Shavers worked the door in Yates for a long while too. Not sure if he would be suitable for the book or if he was already mentioned in vols 1 and 2.

[hurlock]

Sure he started his career there??

[merseybox]

tiger's biography was in Mersey Fighters 1 - he had a few fights in Nigeria before coming to Liverpool - where he lost his fiorst four as a pro here! Need to get in touch with Alan Dean too - he beat him during this stage of his career. Tiger later twice Ring fighter of the year.

[merseybox]

*merseybox* Do you know the pub, quite close to Lime Street, got pictures on the walls of Scouse boxers, McAteers, etc. Went in there by chance years ago, i'm up there the weekend, might have another look in, can't remember where it was though. Thanks.

thats the Yankee Bar - Irish American bar - used to be owned by Terry McHale (RIP) a former pro who we tried to get in Mersey Fighters 2 - he didnt want to though. He drove Sugar Ray Robinson around during his visit to UK back in the day.

[palooka]

There was a boxer in Mersey Fighters 1; think he was around the 50's and 60's he had about 60 knockouts -boxed at a high level but I can't remember his name - he must have been a wicked hitter; can you please let me know who he may be?

[King Tubby]

*merseybox* Do you know the pub, quite close to Lime Street, got pictures on the walls of Scouse boxers, McAteers, etc. Went in there by chance years ago, i'm up there the weekend, might have another look in, can't remember where it was though. Thanks.

thats the Yankee Bar - Irish American bar - used to be owned by Terry McHale (RIP) a former pro who we tried to get in Mersey Fighters 2 - he didnt want to though. He drove Sugar Ray Robinson around during his visit to UK back in the day.

I was in there the other week, how long has it been like that? I remember it as a normal looking pub, but I think that's where it was. I was in another one, maybe The Globe, had a sloping floor if I remember, had a few photos of a Boxer on the wall, don't know if he was the Guvnor, or not. Do you know the one I mean? Think it was opposite Central Station by the door of a big shopping mall.

[Coco]

What about Gary Thornhill?

[bennie]

Richie Wenton beat Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson in an early career four-rounder in Belfast - and he didn't get lucky.

[merseybox]

What about Gary Thornhill?

was in mersey fighters 2 gary. Great lad. Some good stories too.

[merseybox]

Richie Wenton beat Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson in an early career four-rounder in Belfast - and he didn't get lucky.

interviewed richie for the bok last month - again, some great stories. hes doinf really well - own business working all over the world.

[fasteddie]

what about joe bygraves? he was based in birkenhead for a bit, he is a mate of mine's grandad,my mate runs the 12quays boxing gym gym now in wallasey. joe beat henry cooper and i think he fought ingemar johansson in a world title eliminator.

[fasteddie]

Writing it with my good mate Chris Walker - interviewed a few ex scouse pros already with lots more to come before Christmas - hope to be published November 2014 with launch night in an as yet to be confirmed venue that will be the one and only time for you to get any copies signed etc;

Ritchie Wenton
Nigel Wenton
Noel Quarless
Tony Mock
Tony Willis
Paul Lloyd
Sammy Brennan
Gordon Kirk
Steve Harkin
Nick Quigley
Jamie McKeever
Billy Seasman
Alan Levene
Peter Culshaw
Terry Culshaw
Kenny Rainford
Tony Cunningham
Alan Dean
George Turpin
Dave Maj
John Hyland
Sugar Gibiliru
John Naylor
George Naylor
Frank Hope
Gary Yean
Kenny Rainford
Stuart Rimmer
Craig Lyon
Dennis Oakes
Andreas Panayi
George Vaughan
Charlie Atkinson
and many more incl shorter pieces on likes of Ray Ako and Carl Speare - sadly passed on now.

If anyone knows what Floyd Churchill is doing now please let me know haha

Gary Shaw

floyed churchill used to train at 12 quays for a bit,derek isaman brought him there,derek does the handing up at all the shows up and down the country,im sure if you ask him he would know abit more about were he is and what he is doing.

[merseybox]

There was a boxer in Mersey Fighters 1; think he was around the 50's and 60's he had about 60 knockouts -boxed at a high level but I can't remember his name - he must have been a wicked hitter; can you please let me know who he may be?

first time on here for a while and forgot about this question - i'll have a look. might be charley white?

[merseybox]

*merseybox* Do you know the pub, quite close to Lime Street, got pictures on the walls of Scouse boxers, McAteers, etc. Went in there by chance years ago, i'm up there the weekend, might have another look in, can't remember where it was though. Thanks.

thats the Yankee Bar - Irish American bar - used to be owned by Terry McHale (RIP) a former pro who we tried to get in Mersey Fighters 2 - he didnt want to though. He drove Sugar Ray Robinson around during his visit to UK back in the day.

I was in there the other week, how long has it been like that? I remember it as a normal looking pub, but I think that's where it was. I was in another one, maybe The Globe, had a sloping floor if I remember, had a few photos of a Boxer on the wall, don't know if he was the Guvnor, or not. Do you know the one I mean? Think it was opposite Central Station by the door of a big shopping mall.

the globe has lots of pics of boxers in but theyre mainly of just the one - Johnny Cooke - he drinks in there a lot. hes not too well at the moment though. johnny's biography was in Mersey Fighters 2. He won British, CW and fuoght for European title. Late bloomer. Turned pro late and won Brit title (with Johnny Campbell) late too.

[merseybox]

what about joe bygraves? he was based in birkenhead for a bit, he is a mate of mine's grandad,my mate runs the 12quays boxing gym gym now in wallasey. joe beat henry cooper and i think he fought ingemar johansson in a world title eliminator.

again - another name that has already been done - Joe's biog was in Mersey Fighters 1. great boxer. met all the tope heavies of the day - and beat most too - returned to Jamaica to run a pig farm was last we heard when writing biog but despite trying all media in jamaica we couldnt get hold of him. turned out he was still alive at that time but he died for years later. someone wrote an obituary for him - and bassey - for one of the main papers at the time that were full of errors. shame.

[palooka]

There was a boxer in Mersey Fighters 1; think he was around the 50's and 60's he had about 60 knockouts -boxed at a high level but I can't remember his name - he must have been a wicked hitter; can you please let me know who he may be?

first time on here for a while and forgot about this question - i'll have a look. might be charley white?

Hi, thanks for responding - I don't think it was Charley White, I read the book in the library; I've just been on Amazon and bought a copy - I'll put his name up in the next few days

[merseybox]

update on this project as obviously the original publication fdate has long gone - its pretty difficult writing a book while being made redundant from your day job, looking for another, then travelling 15 hours a week to and from the new one!

anyway - bit of revision was needed so MF3 will likley be out March/April next year with a reduced number of biographies - although all are a lot longer than normal - for example: George Turpin (pro early - mid 70s who won bronze medal at 1972 Munich Olympics - and saw the Israeli athlete tragedy unfold while there) is in it and his biog is around 10,000 word long. Similarly, David Burke is included and his biog is around 8,000 etc

We will have around 13-15 fighters in the book, (so around 90,000 words plus) including:

Billy Seasman, Ronnie Hough, Noel Quarless, Paul Edwards, David Burke, Stan Atherton, Richie Wenton, John Naylor jnr, Ian Chantler (St Helens), Alan Levene, Tony Cunningham, George Turpin, with hopefully two or three others to be finalised soon.

Great insights into boxing, not just in the city but around the world, the fighters, their thoughts, training, methods and views on their careers. Hopefully it will be a great read. Again, due to other media outlets not being arsed this will be published privately just like MF2 and my two books on Liverpool FC.

Further details nearer the time. All the lads should be attending the launch (great opportunity for you to purchase the book - be around £14-£15 - and get it signed) which will be in Liverpool - South Liverpool near my house! -sometime late March early April - on a Thursday!

[palooka]

There was a boxer in Mersey Fighters 1; think he was around the 50's and 60's he had about 60 knockouts -boxed at a high level but I can't remember his name - he must have been a wicked hitter; can you please let me know who he may be?

first time on here for a while and forgot about this question - i'll have a look. might be charley white?

Hi, thanks for responding - I don't think it was Charley White, I read the book in the library; I've just been on Amazon and bought a copy - I'll put his name up in the next few days

Hi, my copy just arrived. The man I was thinking of is Jimmy Stewart though Alf Howard and Steve Walsh were very destructive as well.

[merseybox]

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There was a boxer in Mersey Fighters 1; think he was around the 50's and 60's he had about 60 knockouts -boxed at a high level but I can't remember his name - he must have been a wicked hitter; can you please let me know who he may be?

first time on here for a while and forgot about this question - i'll have a look. might be charley white?

Hi, thanks for responding - I don't think it was Charley White, I read the book in the library; I've just been on Amazon and bought a copy - I'll put his name up in the next few days

Hi, my copy just arrived. The man I was thinking of is Jimmy Stewart though Alf Howard and Steve Walsh were very destructive as well.[/quote]

ah jimmy stewart he was decent - beat jack kid berg at the stadium - I've got programme and orig photo from it. helepd by fact berg hurt his ankle. great left hook on him.