Superfight No. 5: Hagler-Leonard by Nigel Collins

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Superfight No. 5: Hagler-Leonard by Nigel Collins

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You couldn't help but wonder what Marvin Hagler was thinking when Sugar Ray Leonard strolled into their postfight news conference. Leonard was wearing a white yachting cap and a sleeveless T-shirt tucked into his jeans, looking more like he had just finished a Caribbean cruise than a hotly contested fight against a man favored to beat him.

It was, of course, Leonard's glamorous persona, as much as his fighting style, that set him apart from Hagler, and it added another layer of animosity to their rivalry. The just-deposed middleweight king had come into the fight riding an undefeated streak dating more than 10 years, and he was unaccustomed to being gracious in defeat.


"I feel in my heart that I'm still champion," Hagler said. "I really hate the fact that they took it away from me and gave it to Sugar Ray Leonard, of all people ... it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth."

The bitterness hasn't dissipated, and those who thought at the time that Hagler was ripped off still feel that way. But why does this particular decision continue to be the subject of such passionate debate? Other than the fact that it was a close fight, what is it about Hagler-Leonard that resonated so strongly with so many?

I believe the archetypal nature of the match is at the core of the enduring dispute. It was the classic struggle between beauty and the beast, even though beauty had enough beast in him to be a great fighter, and the beast fought with a controlled savagery that was gorgeous in its own right.

Opposites may attract, but in this case they clashed in a fight for what many considered the philosophical heart and soul of the sport. It's a battle as old as boxing, one that's in play whenever a boxer meets a slugger in a big fight. But this time, due to the status of the combatants, it counted a lot more than usual.

As an event, Leonard-Hagler was incredible, and the buzz was unlike any I've experienced before or since. You overheard people talking about the fight as soon as you got off the plane in Las Vegas. The media swarmed over the scene like an army of ants, and TV satellite dishes popped up like mushrooms. At times, you felt as if you were at the center of the universe.


Unfortunately, the fight didn't come close to equaling the occasion. Not that it was a bad fight, by any means. Both fought well and at a high skill level, but neither was at his best, especially Hagler. The wear and tear of his wars with John Mugabi and Thomas Hearns -- on top of a long career of tough fights against other tough fighters -- had slowed his reflexes enough to give Leonard the edge he needed.

The telltale signs of a fighter in decline were easy to see: Hagler was frequently unable to pull the trigger when the opportunity presented itself, and he pushed his body shots instead of ripping them home. But most distressing for his supporters was that he actually got outpunched when his elusive prey stood and traded.

Despite having been out of the ring for three years, Leonard showed few signs of rust. He fought a controlled, well-conceived fight, and pulled himself together for a fast finish after being hurt in the ninth.

Judge Dave Moretti scored the fight 115-113 for Leonard, while Lou Filippo had it for Hagler by the same margin. Fair enough. Jose Juan Guerra's 118-110 for Leonard, however, was totally over the top.

"Jo Jo Guerra should be in jail," snarled Hagler's co-manager Pat Petronelli, taking to an extreme the bitterness shared by many observers.

In a way, the controversy has overshadowed the fight itself. A rematch would have been nice, but Hagler never fought again, and I doubt the result would have been significantly different anyway.

Yes, it was close, but from my ringside seat at Caesars Palace, the right guy got the decision.


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Hagler was not a slugger. He had the demeanour of a brute but he was a boxer-puncher who was happy to slug it out when it was to his advantage.
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That write-up is exactly how I view the Leonard -v- Hagler fight.

Massive occasion; average fight & a close but correct decision.

Many people cite this fight when they are asked for their biggest robberies of all-time, but I just don't see it.

Whoever you thought was the winner, it was a close fight, so how could that be a massive robbery? :confused:

Hagler seems very bitter & angry about this fight & Leonard in particular, but the Marvellous one should be more angry at himself for gifting Leonard the fight.

Had he got on with the business of fighting & spent less time cursing Leonard & trying to prove he was the star of the show, he would have won the fight.
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Agree.

I was always thought that Hagler did not want to be made to look foolish by Leonard (like Duran had been) and sort of held off...timed his late run in wrong and couldn't land flush often enough in succession to get the stoppage.

On the night of the fight I watched at a cinema and came away thinking Leonard won easily. When I rewatched the fight the next day on TV I thought it was a much closer fight.
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I was in a doctor's surgery a few weeks after the fight and picked up a Time magazine, to find it contained a write up on the fight inside :o
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Syntax Error wrote:That write-up is exactly how I view the Leonard -v- Hagler fight.

Massive occasion; average fight & a close but correct decision.

Many people cite this fight when they are asked for their biggest robberies of all-time, but I just don't see it.

Whoever you thought was the winner, it was a close fight, so how could that be a massive robbery? :confused:

Hagler seems very bitter & angry about this fight & Leonard in particular, but the Marvellous one should be more angry at himself for gifting Leonard the fight.

Had he got on with the business of fighting & spent less time cursing Leonard & trying to prove he was the star of the show, he would have won the fight.
That's because a lot of fight fans are absolutely clueless on how to score a fight, the criterion which a fight is scored is thus-

Ring generalship
Effective aggression
Defense
Clean punching

When you use those criterion you are usually able to see why the judges decided what they decided.
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ThatOne wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:That write-up is exactly how I view the Leonard -v- Hagler fight.

Massive occasion; average fight & a close but correct decision.

Many people cite this fight when they are asked for their biggest robberies of all-time, but I just don't see it.

Whoever you thought was the winner, it was a close fight, so how could that be a massive robbery? :confused:

Hagler seems very bitter & angry about this fight & Leonard in particular, but the Marvellous one should be more angry at himself for gifting Leonard the fight.

Had he got on with the business of fighting & spent less time cursing Leonard & trying to prove he was the star of the show, he would have won the fight.
That's because a lot of fight fans are absolutely clueless on how to score a fight, the criterion which a fight is scored is thus-

Ring generalship
Effective aggression
Defense
Clean punching

When you use those criterion you are usually able to see why the judges decided what they decided.
I agree with every word of your post, but Leonard hardly put forth a masterclass in any of those 4 disciplines.

It was a close fight whichever way you slice it. Even if he will never admit it, Hagler must know that if he hadn't dicked around for the first half of the fight and stuck to what he was good at he'd have comfortably taken it.
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Re: Superfight No. 5: Hagler-Leonard by Nigel Collins

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RadioElRadar wrote:
ThatOne wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:That write-up is exactly how I view the Leonard -v- Hagler fight.

Massive occasion; average fight & a close but correct decision.

Many people cite this fight when they are asked for their biggest robberies of all-time, but I just don't see it.

Whoever you thought was the winner, it was a close fight, so how could that be a massive robbery? :confused:

Hagler seems very bitter & angry about this fight & Leonard in particular, but the Marvellous one should be more angry at himself for gifting Leonard the fight.

Had he got on with the business of fighting & spent less time cursing Leonard & trying to prove he was the star of the show, he would have won the fight.
That's because a lot of fight fans are absolutely clueless on how to score a fight, the criterion which a fight is scored is thus-

Ring generalship
Effective aggression
Defense
Clean punching

When you use those criterion you are usually able to see why the judges decided what they decided.
I agree with every word of your post, but Leonard hardly put forth a masterclass in any of those 4 disciplines.

It was a close fight whichever way you slice it. Even if he will never admit it, Hagler must know that if he hadn't dicked around for the first half of the fight and stuck to what he was good at he'd have comfortably taken it.
The biggest criticism of Leonard Is "he ran all night". He actually didn't. There were times when he stood in the middle of the ring and traded and consistently beat Hagler to the punch. And even if he did ,part of ring generalship is to prevent your opponent from doing what he wants to do. "He's fighting his fight, not your fight" comes to mind. Hagler should have been able to cut off the ring and didn't. When he ever he cornered Leonard , Leonard seemed to get away. Even if he was "shoeshining" Hagler with his punches those are still scored.
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Ezzard wrote:Hagler was not a slugger. He had the demeanour of a brute but he was a boxer-puncher who was happy to slug it out when it was to his advantage.
That is right. The great Marvelous Marvin was a complete fighter in his own right. A slugger? Please!!!
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