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my favourite fighter over everyone,how high does he rate pound for pound in the all time list?

He is arguably in the Top 100. After about 80, there are dozens of guys who are very close. He was a great fighter.

In the top 50 at least, great fighter. Would have been great to see a rematch with Sanchez

The great Azumah Nelson was "The Professor". From Ghana, he is considered second to the great Dick Tiger as one of the best fighters out of Africa. Not a top 50 all-time great, but a top 100 pound per pound fighter in my book. Around position #80 to 90 range is where I'd place him.

About 75 for me. Undisputed champ if Barry fought him.

Actually, I got him at position #81 at pound per pound all time ratings.

I forgot where I had him rate at featherweight and jr. lightweight all-time.

Can someone find me those two threads? I am too lazy to get them.

Best African fighter I have seen would be a certain for p4p top 100 LEGEND

Can clearly remember Azumah's visits to the UK.....his fight with Cowdell (one of the first I saw as a young kid) was an absolute take down job and it is probably worth reminding ourselves that Pat was not some European 'gimme' having gone 15 rounds with Sanchez in Houston for a SD.

He boxed beautifully against McDonnell as well and Jim was a guy who was only just short of world champion class.

A fight with Mitchell would have been superb and settled many discussions on the board about Africa's finest....lots of folk think Azumah would have smashed Mitchell but I am not so sure.

Bodyshot3 wrote:Can clearly remember Azumah's visits to the UK.....his fight with Cowdell (one of the first I saw as a young kid) was an absolute take down job and it is probably worth reminding ourselves that Pat was not some European 'gimme' having gone 15 rounds with Sanchez in Houston for a SD.

He boxed beautifully against McDonnell as well and Jim was a guy who was only just short of world champion class.

A fight with Mitchell would have been superb and settled many discussions on the board about Africa's finest....lots of folk think Azumah would have smashed Mitchell but I am not so sure.

I wouldn't underestimate Brian Mitchell against the great Julio Cesar Chavez, either.

elmersalsa wrote:

Bodyshot3 wrote:Can clearly remember Azumah's visits to the UK.....his fight with Cowdell (one of the first I saw as a young kid) was an absolute take down job and it is probably worth reminding ourselves that Pat was not some European 'gimme' having gone 15 rounds with Sanchez in Houston for a SD.

He boxed beautifully against McDonnell as well and Jim was a guy who was only just short of world champion class.

A fight with Mitchell would have been superb and settled many discussions on the board about Africa's finest....lots of folk think Azumah would have smashed Mitchell but I am not so sure.

I wouldn't underestimate Brian Mitchell against the great Julio Cesar Chavez, either.

an excellent point which i am slightly surprised to see you making, I think stylistically Mitchell would give Chavez all sorts of problems.

elmersalsa wrote:

Bodyshot3 wrote:Can clearly remember Azumah's visits to the UK.....his fight with Cowdell (one of the first I saw as a young kid) was an absolute take down job and it is probably worth reminding ourselves that Pat was not some European 'gimme' having gone 15 rounds with Sanchez in Houston for a SD.

He boxed beautifully against McDonnell as well and Jim was a guy who was only just short of world champion class.

A fight with Mitchell would have been superb and settled many discussions on the board about Africa's finest....lots of folk think Azumah would have smashed Mitchell but I am not so sure.

I wouldn't underestimate Brian Mitchell against the great Julio Cesar Chavez, either.

No way Mitchell beats either HOF

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

elmersalsa wrote:

Bodyshot3 wrote:Can clearly remember Azumah's visits to the UK.....his fight with Cowdell (one of the first I saw as a young kid) was an absolute take down job and it is probably worth reminding ourselves that Pat was not some European 'gimme' having gone 15 rounds with Sanchez in Houston for a SD.

He boxed beautifully against McDonnell as well and Jim was a guy who was only just short of world champion class.

A fight with Mitchell would have been superb and settled many discussions on the board about Africa's finest....lots of folk think Azumah would have smashed Mitchell but I am not so sure.

I wouldn't underestimate Brian Mitchell against the great Julio Cesar Chavez, either.

Aa

No way Mitchell beats either HOF

We never know. Something about Brian Mitchell tells me that he could upset both HOF in any given night.

I would love to see Brian match up with Lockridge, LaPorte, or Camacho. Very intriguing matchups.

elmersalsa wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

elmersalsa wrote:
I wouldn't underestimate Brian Mitchell against the great Julio Cesar Chavez, either.

Aa

No way Mitchell beats either HOF

We never know. Something about Brian Mitchell tells me that he could upset both HOF in any given night.

One of the reasons I so admire Nelson - and yes, Mitchell as well - is that they were both champions in transit who had to fight (at best) on neutral soil (or at worse) in the other fellas backyard. Their big wins are on the road and they never enjoyed the luxury of a regular homewtown defence.

With Azumah it was economics - fighting in Ghana could not pay the bills.
In Mitchell's case it was politics, a white South African forced to ply his trade elsewhere.

Nelson beating Fenech in Australia was an incredible performance and especially as Fenech is widely regarded to have edged Azumah in their first fight. That result 'Down Under' cemented Azumah's greatness for me; a long way from home and against a bull of guy who had all the momentum with him from the first fight...but Nelson previals and silences the crowd.

I'm not a fan of ranking fighters pound for pound all time. Too hard to do.

Nelson is top 10 featherweight of all time in my opinion. That is saying a whole lot given the talent we've seen at that weight. He was special.

I'm not an expert on the division historically but top ten seems fair. I certainly couldn't think of ten featherweights I am positive would beat him head to head, and I can only think of a total maser boxer mover like Pep who might handle him comfortably. I think he'd give Barrera hell, smash Danny Lopez up, and the dude who gave Sanchez hell beats Pedrosa too IMO, just to give some exampless.

Counter-puncher wrote:I'm not an expert on the division historically but top ten seems fair. I certainly couldn't think of ten featherweights I am positive would beat him head to head, and I can only think of a total maser boxer mover like Pep who might handle him comfortably. I think he'd give Barrera hell, smash Danny Lopez up, and the dude who gave Sanchez hell beats Pedrosa too IMO, just to give some exampless.

He ain't beating the great Eusebio Pedroza.

Counter-puncher wrote:

The Professor is the most accomplished fighter than The Panamanian Scorpion, but, Pedroza was a much more complete fighter.

As a matter of fact, I think the great Azumah Nelson would have been PERFECT for Eusebio.

Yep, a brilliant fighter. He's starting to be bit underrated IMO

Azumah was terrific.

But the best feather ever? Sandy Sadler would have outpunched and outboxed him convincingly.

And Mitchell over Chavez??
What are you guys smoking?

We're talking about the Mexican Living Legend here. Maybe you're thinking of Junior.

Bodyshot3 wrote:Can clearly remember Azumah's visits to the UK.....his fight with Cowdell (one of the first I saw as a young kid) was an absolute take down job and it is probably worth reminding ourselves that Pat was not some European 'gimme' having gone 15 rounds with Sanchez in Houston for a SD.

He boxed beautifully against McDonnell as well and Jim was a guy who was only just short of world champion class.

A fight with Mitchell would have been superb and settled many discussions on the board about Africa's finest....lots of folk think Azumah would have smashed Mitchell but I am not so sure.

He was a great fighter no doubt but I thought he boxed poorly in the McDonnell fight, just marching forward with no real thought in what he was doing, he did eventually walk McDonnell down in the end though