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Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 06:29
by billy nelson
Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 06:31
by lefty
billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
It's easy to say that now Billy but your fighter didnt take the fight when it was there.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 06:33
by Alba
billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
to an extent i will agree with you. I did think a two weight jump was a big ask for him .
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 06:50
by billy nelson
columbo wrote:billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
It's easy to say that now Billy but your fighter didnt take the fight when it was there.
Your boring mate 6 weeks notice we proberbly wouldn't take any fight let alone Broner in the states and no it's not easy afterwards it was aparant when he fought magic man he never took the strength up with him
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 07:05
by lefty
billy nelson wrote:columbo wrote:billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
It's easy to say that now Billy but your fighter didnt take the fight when it was there.
Your boring mate 6 weeks notice we proberbly wouldn't take any fight let alone Broner in the states and no it's not easy afterwards it was aparant when he fought magic man he never took the strength up with him
It's you're but thank you.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:11
by WelshJack
Is it possible for him to get back to lightweight? There may not be the money he wants, but he can be a top boxer in that division.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:13
by lefty
WelshJack wrote:Is it possible for him to get back to lightweight? There may not be the money he wants, but he can be a top boxer in that division.
I very much doubt it. I could possibly see him going down to 140 though.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:14
by WelshJack
columbo wrote:WelshJack wrote:Is it possible for him to get back to lightweight? There may not be the money he wants, but he can be a top boxer in that division.
I very much doubt it. I could possibly see him going down to 140 though.
I suppose that would be a lot better he obviously isn't a 147 fighter.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:34
by mullenman
Billy would ricky fight broner at 140
i think he could win this by workrate
broner is a lazy boxer
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:48
by billy nelson
mullenman wrote:Billy would ricky fight broner at 140
i think he could win this by workrate
broner is a lazy boxer
I know I will get it but I've always said Ricky would beat Broner, take a serious look at his opponents at SFW and LWvhes massive in comparison he wouldn't have that against Ricky plus when he moved to 147 he fought a light puncher in a fight I thought was very close.
So yes if we look good beating Crawford Broner at 140 would be great
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:49
by lefty
billy nelson wrote:mullenman wrote:Billy would ricky fight broner at 140
i think he could win this by workrate
broner is a lazy boxer
I know I will get it but I've always said Ricky would beat Broner, take a serious look at his opponents at SFW and LWvhes massive in comparison he wouldn't have that against Ricky plus when he moved to 147 he fought a light puncher in a fight I thought was very close.
So yes if we look good beating Crawford Broner at 140 would be great
I suppose that Demarco is a lot smaller than Ricky then.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 09:20
by Datsue
I dunno, I could watch him being beaten up by welterweights for like, years...
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:05
by keithmoonhangover
billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
I completely agree with you Billy. He was never big enough at the weight, I said that as soon as the step up was announced.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:19
by stevedoc
i'm glad broner got beat up ,not because i dislike him but more because i think it's been getting a bit stupid with weight classes lately ,i mean it used to be if a fighter won titles at 3 weights it was something a bit special but now fighters seem to jump 2 weight classes and be just as strong and i'm glad in a way that broner failed at welter ,broner isn't a welter weight and i think he justed wanted to copy floyd and he couldn't be bothered to make the weight.
the trouble broner has is that 140 has some good fighters and i think he might struggle there to especialy now we seen he can be hurt and how to do it .
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:23
by danconnollyeire
billy nelson wrote:columbo wrote:billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
It's easy to say that now Billy but your fighter didnt take the fight when it was there.
Your boring mate 6 weeks notice we proberbly wouldn't take any fight let alone Broner in the states and no it's not easy afterwards it was aparant when he fought magic man he never took the strength up with him
Warren admitted Burns turned it down several times
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:26
by lefty
billy nelson wrote:columbo wrote:billy nelson wrote:Its very clear Broner isn't strong enough for Welter and needs to discipline himself to get down to LW or LWW, let's face it all SFW ans LW were tiny in comparison.
I always said when someone stuck with him he'd struggle in the second half of a fight, hopefully he keeps his big gob shut and gets on with what he's good at!
It's easy to say that now Billy but your fighter didnt take the fight when it was there.
Your boring mate 6 weeks notice we proberbly wouldn't take any fight let alone Broner in the states and no it's not easy afterwards it was aparant when he fought magic man he never took the strength up with him
Warren admitted Burns turned it down several times[/quote]
If Burns loses to Crawford im wondering what the excuse will be this time... The jaw wasnt healed properly? He couldnt spar as much as he needed to? He overtrained? He went to see a proclaimers tribute act the night before and didnt get in till 3 in the morning? His dog died?
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:39
by daviddee
Why have people jumped on the thread and turned it about Ricky Burns.. It's about Broner. Clearly he was too small as Billy said.. Let's be honest here. He makes a lot if money outside boxing doing what he likes to do.. 2 months ago he looked easily about 16 stone on Mayweather all Access for Alvarez fight.. I believe he is playing at boxing and we may or may not see him fight again. Maidana is a very very good fighter..
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:40
by lefty
daviddee wrote:Why have people jumped on the thread and turned it about Ricky Burns.. It's about Broner. Clearly he was too small as Billy said.. Let's be honest here. He makes a lot if money outside boxing doing what he likes to do.. 2 months ago he looked easily about 16 stone on Mayweather all Access for Alvarez fight.. I believe he is playing at boxing and we may or may not see him fight again. Maidana is a very very good fighter..
As if Broner is gonna retire from boxing. He makes too much money from it for that.
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:47
by keithmoonhangover
daviddee wrote:2 months ago he looked easily about 16 stone on Mayweather all Access for Alvarez fight.
Sorry, who looked 16 stone? Broner?
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 11:35
by daviddee
He was on all access for Mayweather v Alvarez he was rapping and he was some size.. Maybe not 16 stone but I would say he needed to come down a few stone for Welterweight.. As for how much money he makes boxing.. He makes a lot mor out with boxing. He's a huge rapper on The USA and can guarantee he earns more that way without getting punched
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 11:36
by expe
danconnollyeire wrote:billy nelson wrote:columbo wrote:
It's easy to say that now Billy but your fighter didnt take the fight when it was there.
Your boring mate 6 weeks notice we proberbly wouldn't take any fight let alone Broner in the states and no it's not easy afterwards it was aparant when he fought magic man he never took the strength up with him
Warren admitted Burns turned it down several times
You seriously trust a word that comes out of allegedly's mouth about a fighter that's left him?
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:54
by billy nelson
Let's just put this to bed once and for all Ricky was offered a fight with Broner ONCE with six weeks notice we said NO end off! Thank you

Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:55
by digzee
It's not just about his weight that is the "problem" he was eating left hooks all night, his defence isn't as good as what he thinks. If he went down to 140 Garcia would knock him out within 6 with his left hook, I would also favour Matthysse and Provodnikov over him too. He still has a good future just the not great one he thought and wants
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 13:25
by Bandit
billy nelson wrote:Let's just put this to bed once and for all Ricky was offered a fight with Broner ONCE with six weeks notice we said NO end off! Thank you

Bollocks!
Re: Broner needs to come down in weight
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 13:37
by keithmoonhangover
Power777 wrote:Datsue wrote:I dunno, I could watch him being beaten up by welterweights for like, years...
I want him to move to 160lbs and fight GGG.

