Doncaster Legend

[Tomasino]

I've read about Bartley Gorman and the so called "St Legers Day Massacre". Did this really happen and was it named that? I found a lot of stuff in that book to be far fetched and with all the Donny guys on the other thread thought I'd ask.

[orbtastic]

Palooka would be your man but from what I've read, it is true.

The St Leger is a huge week in the racing calendar, there's a lot of travellers & Irish in town that week. The week before the races I believe it's bloodstock week too.

[palooka]

Palooka would be your man but from what I've read, it is true.

The St Leger is a huge week in the racing calendar, there's a lot of travellers & Irish in town that week. The week before the races I believe it's bloodstock week too.

Sorry, I don't know a deal about it; I read the book and spoke to Bob Gaskin; he drinks in the little Plough from time to time; he said it was very exaggerated; I think only Gorman and his people called it the St Leger Massacre! I imagine that there's still a fair bit of challenge fights that goes on around the Leger but someone who has seen a few of these fights said that Appleby Horse Fair is a place where the pecking order can be sorted. Doncaster has got a really big traveller population, there are quite a few sites and the biggest name I think still is Joe Boy Gaskin who is mentioned in the book; he's knocking on a bit and I think he's on the slide though I'd not say it to his face.

I like the part in the Bartley Gorman book where he has a fight in a pub and misses the man with a punch and knocks down a wall. I identified with that as it's happened to me.

[orbtastic]

Obviously Ghost Written by the guy who helped Meldrick.

[lefty]

Palooka would be your man but from what I've read, it is true.

The St Leger is a huge week in the racing calendar, there's a lot of travellers & Irish in town that week. The week before the races I believe it's bloodstock week too.

Sorry, I don't know a deal about it; I read the book and spoke to Bob Gaskin; he drinks in the little Plough from time to time; he said it was very exaggerated; I think only Gorman and his people called it the St Leger Massacre! I imagine that there's still a fair bit of challenge fights that goes on around the Leger but someone who has seen a few of these fights said that Appleby Horse Fair is a place where the pecking order can be sorted. Doncaster has got a really big traveller population, there are quite a few sites and the biggest name I think still is Joe Boy Gaskin who is mentioned in the book; he's knocking on a bit and I think he's on the slide though I'd not say it to his face.

I like the part in the Bartley Gorman book where he has a fight in a pub and misses the man with a punch and knocks down a wall. I can imagine that maybe some other bits are given descriptive licence as well.

[palooka]

Palooka would be your man but from what I've read, it is true.

The St Leger is a huge week in the racing calendar, there's a lot of travellers & Irish in town that week. The week before the races I believe it's bloodstock week too.

Sorry, I don't know a deal about it; I read the book and spoke to Bob Gaskin; he drinks in the little Plough from time to time; he said it was very exaggerated; I think only Gorman and his people called it the St Leger Massacre! I imagine that there's still a fair bit of challenge fights that goes on around the Leger but someone who has seen a few of these fights said that Appleby Horse Fair is a place where the pecking order can be sorted. Doncaster has got a really big traveller population, there are quite a few sites and the biggest name I think still is Joe Boy Gaskin who is mentioned in the book; he's knocking on a bit and I think he's on the slide though I'd not say it to his face.

I like the part in the Bartley Gorman book where he has a fight in a pub and misses the man with a punch and knocks down a wall. I can imagine that maybe some other bits are given descriptive licence as well.

There's a few bits you'd like

[Mimmy]

There is only 1 legend from Doncaster and thats Bruce Woodcock

[jonny]

I remember Danny Shenton being the main guy in Doncaster and his Sheffield counterpart being Dennis Hobson snr

[jonny]

[quote="mimmy123"]There is only 1 legend from Doncaster and thats Bruce Woodcock[/quote

Doncaster has a good boxing background

[stevedoc]

There is only 1 legend from Doncaster and thats Bruce Woodcock

what about dean bramhald...... :)

[palooka]

There is only 1 legend from Doncaster and thats Bruce Woodcock

what about dean bramhald...... :)

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.

[stevedoc]

There is only 1 legend from Doncaster and thats Bruce Woodcock

what about dean bramhald...... :)

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.

how did you get on
he fought my brother pat in the mid/late 80's

[palooka]

what about dean bramhald...... :)[/quote]

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.[/quote]
how did you get on
he fought my brother pat in the mid/late 80's[/quote]


I got my head kicked in every time I sparred; I was crap

[stevedoc]

what about dean bramhald...... :)

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.[/quote]
how did you get on
he fought my brother pat in the mid/late 80's[/quote]


I got my head kicked in every time I sparred; I was crap [/quote]

....that made me laugh most guys make them self sound better than they were ....
i got a boxing lesson off alan temple once it wasn't fun

[DavidPayne]

I remember Danny Shenton being the main guy in Doncaster and his Sheffield counterpart being Dennis Hobson snr

My Dad was always alright with Danny. Sort of knew him I think. Similar generation.

Fella from Thorne was rumoured to go up and fight the travellers for a grand a pop, I want to say Tommy Cunningham but I may be off or misremembering.

The story in my family is that my Great Uncle Ralph (Dodie) was the cock of Doncaster in his time, he was a big bugger and loved drinking in the rough houses round the markets in the 40s I suppose. Woodcock would never fight him in the street, but then, why would he.

[DavidPayne]

what about dean bramhald...... :)

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.

how did you get on
he fought my brother pat in the mid/late 80's[/quote]


I got my head kicked in every time I sparred; I was crap :OhYes:[/quote]

:D ....that made me laugh most guys make them self sound better than they were ....
i got a boxing lesson off alan temple once it wasn't fun[/quote]
I've been dropped twice with body shots during my brief 'sparring' at the local club here. Got up, but fought like Gonch's Duffle Bag for the rest of the night.

[Tomasino]

Palooka would be your man but from what I've read, it is true.

The St Leger is a huge week in the racing calendar, there's a lot of travellers & Irish in town that week. The week before the races I believe it's bloodstock week too.

Sorry, I don't know a deal about it; I read the book and spoke to Bob Gaskin; he drinks in the little Plough from time to time; he said it was very exaggerated; I think only Gorman and his people called it the St Leger Massacre! I imagine that there's still a fair bit of challenge fights that goes on around the Leger but someone who has seen a few of these fights said that Appleby Horse Fair is a place where the pecking order can be sorted. Doncaster has got a really big traveller population, there are quite a few sites and the biggest name I think still is Joe Boy Gaskin who is mentioned in the book; he's knocking on a bit and I think he's on the slide though I'd not say it to his face.

I like the part in the Bartley Gorman book where he has a fight in a pub and misses the man with a punch and knocks down a wall. I identified with that as it's happened to me.

I thought it was exaggerated. I've asked other folk from down that way and they never heard of any of it. St Legers Day Massacre hahaha.

Did you punch a dolls house by any chance?

[keithmoonhangover]

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.

My dad used to 'spar' with burglars in the cellar when he was a landlord. With the help of our overly aggressive german shepherd.

[Mimmy]

I sparred with Dean when I was 17, with Kevin Plant and Ronnie Stevenson too; at the Tadcaster Arms in Armthorpe, in the cellar.

My dad used to 'spar' with burglars in the cellar when he was a landlord. With the help of our overly aggressive german shepherd.

I shadow boxed in the gym while being observed by John Rushton

[DavidPayne]

Yeh, race week used to be big when people still made stuff in Doncaster.

Everything shut.

But I was born in 73 so a kid at its height. Just remember being told not to go out in town when I was 17/18 during that week.

[Mimmy]

Yeh, race week used to be big when people still made stuff in Doncaster.

Everything shut.

But I was born in 73 so a kid at its height. Just remember being told not to go out in town when I was 17/18 during that week.

Tittlecock Fayre was the place to be!

[ppb]

Thought that this was a post about the Doncaster Leg End that refereed Froch Groves but sorry, my mistake ha ha

[jonny]

Yeh, race week used to be big when people still made stuff in Doncaster.

Everything shut.

But I was born in 73 so a kid at its height. Just remember being told not to go out in town when I was 17/18 during that week.

I

Mate, it was massive. The place was buzzing: travellers, professional gamblers, professional idiots, hard men, showmen, piss artists. You name it, they were all there on Race Week. I remember eeing Mercs and Rolls Royces parked right the way up Bennetthorpe - and that was when I was a little kid, when only the seriously rich could afford them.

I also remember gyspsies playing 'chicken' with Escort vans on the straight mile by the side of the racecourse (ie 2 vans drive at full pelt towards each other, and it's let's see who swerves first)

I worked in a town centre pub in the late 70s early 80s in the market place and must say race week was very entertaining if nothing else lol

[hurlock]

Bore off with Doncaster !!!! It's like being a football follower & wanting to know stenhousemuirs results!

[DavidPayne]

Just reminiscing Hurlock. Have a day off.