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Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:25
by Final round
No surprises there. Will he be knock knock knocking on Eddie's door.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:25
by lefty
Smart move. I dont think Hennessy was delivering. Probably not his fault as he doesnt have the same level of tv backing as other promoters. Hopefully he goes to matchroom as there's the winner of Groves-Froch lined straight up. I imagine Eddie will be interested.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:26
by expe
Possibly looking towards a fight against Froch or Groves, but I can't see Hennessey being that bothered by him fighting on another channel if it lead to a fight like that. Whatever happens DeGale needs to take a look at where he's going with his career, dropped two promoters now, 6 years on from the Olympics he hasn't fought for a world title, lackluster performances and despite the changes outside the ring, he's still with McDonnell, who's the one part of his team people have thought he should change.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:29
by Alba
Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:32
by expe
Alba wrote:Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...
Can't sell a ticket either and Groves isn't signed with Hearn, so there's no guarantee he'd get that fight anyway.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:37
by JimJim2009
Ambrose Mendy back on the scene ! I wonder if he can stay out of prison long enough to deliver the goods for DeGale.

By the looks of that statement, it seems a dramatic split with anticipated fall out.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 15:40
by Yes We Can
With DeGale looking likely to become IBF mandatory Eddie would snap him up in a heartbeat i imagine, keep the $$$ in house.

I believe he could still come out on top of the whole Groves/Froch saga, he certainly has the abillity and the hunger after sitting on the sidelines would definitely be there.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:08
by mickey1975
I say this with no sense of irony, but I blame George Groves. Fwank thought he really did have the next big thing on his hands with James.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:13
by dubliner
expe wrote:
Alba wrote:Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...
Can't sell a ticket either and Groves isn't signed with Hearn, so there's no guarantee he'd get that fight anyway.
Is it any wonder he can't sell tickets mans a awful wanker

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:16
by lefty
dubliner wrote:
expe wrote:
Alba wrote:Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...
Can't sell a ticket either and Groves isn't signed with Hearn, so there's no guarantee he'd get that fight anyway.
Is it any wonder he can't sell tickets mans a awful wanker
I dunno. I've watched a fair few of his interviews over the last 12/18 months and he seems a lot more down to earth these days. You very rarely hear him running his mouth anymore either. Also, from people that have met him or know him personally, they say he's a very nice guy.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:19
by expe
funtime wrote:With DeGale looking likely to become IBF mandatory Eddie would snap him up in a heartbeat i imagine, keep the $$$ in house.

I believe he could still come out on top of the whole Groves/Froch saga, he certainly has the abillity and the hunger after sitting on the sidelines would definitely be there.
DeGale's going down the WBC route with Chavez Jr fighting Golovkin, although I believe the IBF is an option as well. If DeGale's smart he'll wait and see who wins first before signing with anyone, if Groves wins, Hearn isn't necessarily needed because both would be free agents, but if Froch wins, then he might as well sign with him to guarantee the fight.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:22
by Alba
expe wrote:
funtime wrote:With DeGale looking likely to become IBF mandatory Eddie would snap him up in a heartbeat i imagine, keep the $$$ in house.

I believe he could still come out on top of the whole Groves/Froch saga, he certainly has the abillity and the hunger after sitting on the sidelines would definitely be there.
DeGale's going down the WBC route with Chavez Jr fighting Golovkin, although I believe the IBF is an option as well. If DeGale's smart he'll wait and see who wins first before signing with anyone, if Groves wins, Hearn isn't necessarily needed because both would be free agents, but if Froch wins, then he might as well sign with him to guarantee the fight.
you think he will have options of signing wiht anyone though... i am sure i read that he signed with Henny cause he was asking for silly money and eddie wasent intrested .

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:29
by DMA1987
Isn't he the Mandatory for Bike now? Sure I heard the other day he had been made it. He beats Bika for me, so I can definitely see Matchroom being very interested in having a World Champion super middleweight, especially if Eddie takes into account Froch can lose to Groves and Groves takes the belt elsewhere.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:33
by expe
DMA1987 wrote:Isn't he the Mandatory for Bike now? Sure I heard the other day he had been made it. He beats Bika for me, so I can definitely see Matchroom being very interested in having a World Champion super middleweight, especially if Eddie takes into account Froch can lose to Groves and Groves takes the belt elsewhere.
If he wins they will be interested, but I get the feeling Groves will be the fight DeGale's after if he wins a world title and I don't know whether or not Matchroom will be a block to that, Groves doesn't seem particularly keen on working with them, or with any other promoters for that matter. It's the sort of fight that doesn't necessarily need a major promoter, if they can get a good TV deal, ticket sales shouldn't be a problem regardless.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:37
by lefty
I'm pretty sure that Groves will sign with Matchroom if he wins. I cant see another promotional outfit in the UK giving him the opportunities that Matchroom can with the sky deal and more importantly the PPV platform which im sure a lot of his future fights are gonna end up on.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:48
by mikiesb
groves will win close decision

golovkin will win

degale should go ibf route

groves champ vs potential ibf champ de gale.

winner to take on golovkin

golovkin a beast..

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:49
by expe
columbo wrote:I'm pretty sure that Groves will sign with Matchroom if he wins. I cant see another promotional outfit in the UK giving him the opportunities that Matchroom can with the sky deal and more importantly the PPV platform which im sure a lot of his future fights are gonna end up on.
I'm not sure he will, the Booth and Haye mentality was to always avoid getting into bed with promoters and if he can avoid it, I think Groves will do similar.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 16:51
by handsofstone
Just speculating but he might decide to go down a foreign route,Sauerland Events maybe?

As stated above James isn't a ticket seller so maybe fighting abroad following the Abraham/WBO path isn't such a bad idea

I feel for DeGale,he never covered himself in glory during the Groves build up but recently he's become more of a realist,he's technically the most talented SMW in the country,maybe in the world after Ward and possibly the Dirrell's so its a shame to see a fighter like that treading water

6 years a pro though :o i hope the 2012 contingent dont take as long as this to get their title shot

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 18:25
by lefty
handsofstone wrote:Just speculating but he might decide to go down a foreign route,Sauerland Events maybe?

As stated above James isn't a ticket seller so maybe fighting abroad following the Abraham/WBO path isn't such a bad idea

I feel for DeGale,he never covered himself in glory during the Groves build up but recently he's become more of a realist,he's technically the most talented SMW in the country,maybe in the world after Ward and possibly the Dirrell's so its a shame to see a fighter like that treading water

6 years a pro though :o i hope the 2012 contingent dont take as long as this to get their title shot
I cant see him going with Sauerland! He wouldnt make the kind of money fighting in Germany and mainland Europe as he can over here. Would be a strange move anyway.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 18:33
by zero
He has to be hoping for Matchroom how many more fights does Froch have...DeGale needs to be marketed right and Hearn will promote the sh!t out of him. If I were James I would be chapping Hearn's door yesterday.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 04 Apr 2014, 18:37
by lefty
zero wrote:He has to be hoping for Matchroom how many more fights does Froch have...DeGale needs to be marketed right and Hearn will promote the sh!t out of him. If I were James I would be chapping Hearn's door yesterday.
X2.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 06:57
by JC
expe wrote:
Alba wrote:Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...
Can't sell a ticket either and Groves isn't signed with Hearn, so there's no guarantee he'd get that fight anyway.
The promoter plays a part in making someone a ticket seller though. People were saying Kell Brook wasn't a ticket seller when he went over to Matchroom.

Degale seemed to be gaining popularity until the Groves fight, which obviously turned him into a bit of a villain. With some exposure and high profile wins they can probably get him back on track. He was never going to be a big ticket seller fighting no name opponents out in Bluewater without any other big names on the bill.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 07:21
by expe
J-C wrote:
expe wrote:
Alba wrote:Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...
Can't sell a ticket either and Groves isn't signed with Hearn, so there's no guarantee he'd get that fight anyway.
The promoter plays a part in making someone a ticket seller though. People were saying Kell Brook wasn't a ticket seller when he went over to Matchroom.

Degale seemed to be gaining popularity until the Groves fight, which obviously turned him into a bit of a villain. With some exposure and high profile wins they can probably get him back on track. He was never going to be a big ticket seller fighting no name opponents out in Bluewater without any other big names on the bill.
DeGale won an Olympic gold medal, topped the bill in front of 20,000 people in his home city, boxed on big shows all over the country, almost all of his fights have been televised, some of those on Terrestrial TV, plus coverage in national newspapers and other national media, he's had more exposure than most fighters could ever dream of, but he's struggling to half fill the arena, which isn't that big to start with, in European title fights and world title eliminators.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 07:30
by palooka
DeGale is a fantastic boxer and will do well, injury free he ought to hit harder and be more urgent about making a spectacle. Though he has some great achievements already he is not a headline performer (yet) and to get bums on seats needs someone with a similar level of support and to talk it all up. I imagine that all the work done in training and prep will stand him in good stead when he gets a shot. He needed taking down a peg but it didn't ought to have ruined him, there's plenty of people not as good as him who think they're chocolate.

Re: James DeGale statement severing ties with Hennessy

Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 09:31
by bigjack
dubliner wrote:
expe wrote:
Alba wrote:Will Eddie touch him ? hes been with two of other bigger promoters over here and hasent actaully done anything ore than hold the Euro belt and make a tit of himself in the build up t the grove fight...

eddie has a few Super middleweights already ...
Can't sell a ticket either and Groves isn't signed with Hearn, so there's no guarantee he'd get that fight anyway.
Is it any wonder he can't sell tickets mans a awful wanker


He used to be a complete tit,but i think he's grown up a bit now,still can't get excited about his boxing style, he just seems to have made little progression since he fought Groves and his fights bore me too tears.