Was The Prince the hardest one shot puncher at his weight?

[BoxBuzz]

Like Julian Jackson at his weight, I'm thinkin' the answer is yes.

And with Hamed comes some pretty outrageous flexible athleticism, and the ability to provoke, making him awkward for almost anyone but the most disciplined of fighters.

However if not Naseem who do you think had featherweights #1 power punch?

[SamWise72]

Kelcey Banks was pretty fierce at the time

[orbtastic]

I'd like to it head to head with Saddler, Olivares, Danny Lopez et al.

[klompton]

Who did Hamed ever prove he was the hardest against?

[BoxBuzz]

Hey Klompton.....you are journalist...and yet...your answering my question with a question?

I thought they didn't like that.

Anyway...you think who stood in front of him helps us form an answer? ( it does little harm). But if Shavers would have only fought china chins, it would not have diminished his power. And though that is one way to measure....another is to just go over the tapes, and see what a punch does to someone in terms of physics.

The Prince has a pretty good recorded body of empirical evidence that says he was rather unusual in terms of power once he landed squarely.

But it's not easy to sell even the most scientific evidence when it comes to the emotion the fight game produces in folks, One can see with their own eyes that Ali hit Liston with something quite powerful in their second fight, and though I can walk people through the evidence nanosecond by nanosecond on a forensic basis, there are still people who refuse to believe their own lying eyes. lol.

And just Cuz Foreman could not knock out, Young, Briggs, or Schultz....it probably changes few opinions that he was quite the puncher.

So if not the Prince who ya got? That's my question. Why would be nice to hear as well.

[Woldemar]

Yes.

[p4p1]

From others that I have seen yes in a weird way it was his greatest strength and his greatest weakness(the way he fell in love with it) But man could the guy punch he stopped guys with one punch who had never been stopped before.

[polecateddy]

Huge power generated from his leg muscles. It's hard to imagine many 9 stone feathers could punch harder.

[tiny_acres]

There were a lot of heavy hitters that spent time at featherweight.A small list of others that
were Huge hitters while at featherweight.

Terry McGovern
Sandy Saddler
Alexis Arguello
Manny Pacquia
Juan Manuel Marquez
Salvador Sanchez
Azumah Nelson
Ruben Olivares
Erik Morales
Bobby Chacon
Danny Lopez
Jim Driscoll
Eusubio Pedroza

I am sure we can think of some other hard hitters at this weight.Any others you can think of that would make the list?

And who can forget Sugar Ramos.Such a hard hitter he killed 2 men in the ring.

[Boxerbeetle]

There were a lot of heavy hitters that spent time at featherweight.A small list of others that
were Huge hitters while at featherweight.

Terry McGovern
Sandy Saddler
Alexis Arguello
Manny Pacquia
Juan Manuel Marquez
Salvador Sanchez
Azumah Nelson
Ruben Olivares
Erik Morales
Bobby Chacon
Danny Lopez
Jim Driscoll
Eusubio Pedroza

I am sure we can think of some other hard hitters at this weight.Any others you can think of that would make the list?

And who can forget Sugar Ramos.Such a hard hitter he killed 2 men in the ring.

I'd still say Hamed was a harder one-shot puncher than all of the above.

[Woldemar]

Villasana and Hodkinson also a good punchers in featherweight.

[Ambling Alp II]

A lot of guys are close, but I'm leaning toward Saddler. Hamed seemed like he may be up there, but it's hard to say since his victim's list was so bad.

[tiny_acres]

I am stuck on Sugar Ramos.

[elmersalsa]

The Prince Naseem Hamed was pretty good puncher. He was a KO artist back in the 90s. He got to be up there with the best punchers at featherweight. Was he in the list of the Ring Magazine's 100 Greatest Punchers of all time?

I believe that the greats Sandy Saddler and Alexis Arguello were better punchers. Also Danny Lopez.

[BoxBuzz]

The Prince Naseem Hamed was pretty good puncher. He was a KO artist back in the 90s. He got to be up there with the best punchers at featherweight. Was he in the list of the Ring Magazine's 100 Greatest Punchers of all time?

I believe that the greats Sandy Saddler and Alexis Arguello were better punchers. Also Danny Lopez.

Combinations yes.....but the topic is one shot punching power. You think Alexis and Sandy eclipsed Naseem on that specific?

[surf-bat]

Aurelio Herrera. Easily. He had a killing punch at featherweight and lightweight.

[surf-bat]

This is much more compelling testimony for Herrera than anything you'll find me on Hamed. Herrera regularly shattered iron chins:

"He could hit as hard as Jim Jeffries although he was only a lightweight. He landed one of his famous punches that almost tore the top of my head off. I have never been hit as hard before or since. I turned a complete somersault and fell flat on my back. I looked up and saw Herrera standing over me with murder in his eyes. That happened in the fifth round. Around the seventeenth round my head cleared…but I could not recall anything that happened in those 12 rounds. I really think Herrera was the greatest man I met."
–BATTLING NELSON, Lightweight Champion

“Herrera has an awful wallop. I never felt anything like it in my ring experience.”
- -BENNY YANGER, Featherweight Contender (Yanger had never been stopped)

"The toughest man I ever fought was Aurelio Herrera. I don’t believe any lightweight ever lived who could hit as hard. He hit me on the head and I thought the building had caved in."
- -KID HERMAN, Lightweight Contender

“In the fourth round he hit me two wallops on the neck, and up to the gong-tap I didn’t know whether I was on my feet or sitting down. Any other man who wants to challenge him can do it, but they can take a tip from me that Herrera can out a punch nearly as hard as Tom Sharkey. I think he could whip Joe Bernstein and Kid Broad easily.”
–TERRY McGOVERN, Multi-Division Champion

“Herrera was the hardest hitting lightweight who ever lived. And I bar nobody right up to this day [June, 1956]. He hit me solidly only once in the 21 rounds we boxed together. I was pulling out of a clinch and he dropped a right cross to my chin. The punch landed about an eighth of an inch too high or it would have knocked me dead. As it was the left side of my body went numb. My left eye started to twitch and I couldn’t control it. Herrera had the uncanny knack of hitting. He didn’t learn the secret in the gym- it was born into him.”
–ABE ATTELL, Featherweight Champion

“The greatest one-punch knockout artist I ever saw. And I’ve been watching fights for almost 60 years. Herrera and I became quite chummy when I took Sam Langford to California after the first of the century. To be perfectly honest about it, had I been offered a match for my Sam Langford against Herrera, even though Sam outweighed him by about fifteen pounds, I would have found some excuse to wiggle out of it. Sam in all probability would have beaten Herrera, but it wasn’t worth the risk. Not when a man could hit so damned hard as that little Mexican.”
–JOE WOODMAN, Manager of Sam Langford

[Boxerbeetle]

This is much more compelling testimony for Herrera than anything you'll find me on Hamed. Herrera regularly shattered iron chins:

"He could hit as hard as Jim Jeffries although he was only a lightweight. He landed one of his famous punches that almost tore the top of my head off. I have never been hit as hard before or since. I turned a complete somersault and fell flat on my back. I looked up and saw Herrera standing over me with murder in his eyes. That happened in the fifth round. Around the seventeenth round my head cleared…but I could not recall anything that happened in those 12 rounds. I really think Herrera was the greatest man I met."
–BATTLING NELSON, Lightweight Champion

“Herrera has an awful wallop. I never felt anything like it in my ring experience.”
- -BENNY YANGER, Featherweight Contender (Yanger had never been stopped)

"The toughest man I ever fought was Aurelio Herrera. I don’t believe any lightweight ever lived who could hit as hard. He hit me on the head and I thought the building had caved in."
- -KID HERMAN, Lightweight Contender

“In the fourth round he hit me two wallops on the neck, and up to the gong-tap I didn’t know whether I was on my feet or sitting down. Any other man who wants to challenge him can do it, but they can take a tip from me that Herrera can out a punch nearly as hard as Tom Sharkey. I think he could whip Joe Bernstein and Kid Broad easily.”
–TERRY McGOVERN, Multi-Division Champion

“Herrera was the hardest hitting lightweight who ever lived. And I bar nobody right up to this day [June, 1956]. He hit me solidly only once in the 21 rounds we boxed together. I was pulling out of a clinch and he dropped a right cross to my chin. The punch landed about an eighth of an inch too high or it would have knocked me dead. As it was the left side of my body went numb. My left eye started to twitch and I couldn’t control it. Herrera had the uncanny knack of hitting. He didn’t learn the secret in the gym- it was born into him.”
–ABE ATTELL, Featherweight Champion

“The greatest one-punch knockout artist I ever saw. And I’ve been watching fights for almost 60 years. Herrera and I became quite chummy when I took Sam Langford to California after the first of the century. To be perfectly honest about it, had I been offered a match for my Sam Langford against Herrera, even though Sam outweighed him by about fifteen pounds, I would have found some excuse to wiggle out of it. Sam in all probability would have beaten Herrera, but it wasn’t worth the risk. Not when a man could hit so damned hard as that little Mexican.”
–JOE WOODMAN, Manager of Sam Langford

Sam Langford was ony 15 pounds heavier than Herrera? Am I missing something?

[surf-bat]

“The greatest one-punch knockout artist I ever saw. And I’ve been watching fights for almost 60 years. Herrera and I became quite chummy when I took Sam Langford to California after the first of the century.

Sam Langford was ony 15 pounds heavier than Herrera? Am I missing something?

At that point in time Langford was.

[BoxBuzz]

Can we SEE any of this?

[surf-bat]

Can we SEE any of this?

You need to see knockouts in order to believe that they happened?

[BoxBuzz]

Hey wait a minute, are you being sarcastic? One thing about sarcasm, it's easier to spot it by listening to it than looking at it on paper. When it's just on paper I never quite know what it tells me about the contributor.

Now what were you saying about punching power again?

[BoxBuzz]

And wasn't Herrera a lightweight?

[surf-bat]

Hey wait a minute, are you being sarcastic? One thing about sarcasm, it's easier to spot it by listening to it than looking at it on paper. When it's just on paper I never quite know what it tells me about the contributor.

Now what were you saying about punching power again?

Not at all. I only resort to sarcasm in rare instances. Just puzzled here. Wondering if you're one of those posters who needs to see everything on film to believe that it happened.

[surf-bat]

And wasn't Herrera a lightweight?

He fought at both weights and was considered by many to be the hardest puncher at both.

Sadly, I know of no film of him that exists.