2016 #1 draft pick

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If Boxing had a draft like the Nba or Nfl, who would be projected to be The #1 draft pick in tne class 2016? Woukd it be Clemente Russo? He would be 34 I think in 2016 or how about a 2 time World Champion Shakur Stevenson who will only be 18 going on 19 in 2016. Or maybe the Cuban at 178 Cruz. Who would you pick if you are a professional promoter

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DRAFT PICKS DON'T WORK IN PRO BOXING PROMOTERS GO BY WHICH FIGHTER IS POSSIBLE MONEY MAKER FOR THEM. NOT ALL PROMTERS GO AFTER SOME OF THESE AMATEURS. WHEN U CAN FIND A CANELO TYPE FIGHTER WITH REALLY NO AMATEUR BIG TIME EXPIERENCE BUT CAN FIGHT AND DRAW FANS MEANS MORE THAN ANY MEDAL U CAN WIN. FANS CAN MAKE U OR BREAK U EUROPIAN FIGHTERS DON'T HAVE THE FAN BASE NEEDED TO MAKE THE GREEN BACKS IN THE USA.

[tflanagan5]

for the sake of this argument im going to judge the fighters on there talent and how i feel the would adapt to the pro game ,

round 1.

1. Roniel Iglesies Sotologo (Cuba) - Golden boy
2. Magomed Medzhidov (Azeribajian) - Top Rank
3. Joe Ward (Ireland) - Mick Hennessy
4. Julio De La Cruz (Cuba) - Sauerland
5 Robeisy Ramirez (Cuba) - Don King
6. Erislandy Savon (Cuba) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Misha Aloyan (Russia) - Main Events
8. Lazaro Alvarez (Cuba) - Lou Di Bella
9. Andrew Selby ( Wales)- Matchroom
10. Yoandi Toirac (Cuba) - Dan Goosen
11. Anthony Fowler (England) - allegedly
12. Daniyar Yeleussinov (Kazakhstan) - Gary Hyde

round 2

1. Yasniel Toledo (Cuba) - Golden boy
2. Zhanibek Alimkhanuly (Kazakhstan) - Top Rank
3. Yosbeny Veitia ( Cuba) - Mick Hennessy
4.Michael Conlon ( Ireland) - Sauerland
5. Shakur Stevenson (USA) - Don King
6. Albert Selimov ( Russia) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Paddy Barnes ( Ireland) - Main Events
8. Roberto Cammerelle ( Italy) - Lou De Bella
9. Evgeny Tishchenko ( Russia) - Matchroom
10. Magomed Omarov (Russia) - Dan Goosen
11. Vasily Levit (Kazakhstan) - allegedly
12. Robson Conceição (Brazil) - Gary Hyde

round 3
1. Adilbek Niyazymbetov (Kazakhstan) Golden boy
2. Javid Chalabiyev ( Azeribajian) Top rank
3. Filip Hrgovic (Croatia) Mick Hennessy
4. Evaldas Petrauskas (Lithuania) Sauerland
5. Merey Akshalov (Kazakhstan) Don King
6. David Oliver joyce (Ireland) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Arisnoidys Despaigne (Cuba) - Main Events
8. Vladimir Nikitin (Russia) -Lou Di Bella
9. Ivan Dychko (Kazakhstan) - Matchroom
10. Willie Donaghue (Ireland) - Dan Goosen
11. Dmytro Mytrofanov (Ukraine) - allegedly
12. Anthony Chacón ( Puerto Rico) - Gary Hyde

round 4
1. Everton Lopes (Brazil) - Golden Boy
2. Darmani Rock (USA) - Top Rank
3. Dmitry Polyanskiy (Russia) - Mick Hennessy
4. Johnny Joyce (Ireland) - Sauerland
5. Artem Chebotarev (Russia) - Don King
6. Mykola Butsenko (Ukraine) Iron Mike Promotions
7. Brendan Irvine (Ireland) - Main Events
8. Erik Pfeifer (Germany) - Lou Di Bella
9. Vincenzo Mangiacapre (Italy) - Matchroom
10. Gabriel Maestre (Venezuala) - Dan Goosen
11. Jack Bateson (England) -allegedly
12. Elías Emigdio (Mexico) - Gary Hyde

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for the sake of this argument im going to judge the fighters on there talent and how i feel the would adapt to the pro game ,

round 1.

1. Roniel Iglesies Sotologo (Cuba) - Golden boy
2. Magomed Medzhidov (Azeribajian) - Top Rank
3. Joe Ward (Ireland) - Mick Hennessy
4. Julio De La Cruz (Cuba) - Sauerland
5 Robeisy Ramirez (Cuba) - Don King
6. Erislandy Savon (Cuba) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Misha Aloyan (Russia) - Main Events
8. Lazaro Alvarez (Cuba) - Lou Di Bella
9. Andrew Selby ( Wales)- Matchroom
10. Yoandi Toirac (Cuba) - Dan Goosen
11. Anthony Fowler (England) - allegedly
12. Daniyar Yeleussinov (Kazakhstan) - Gary Hyde

round 2

1. Yasniel Toledo (Cuba) - Golden boy
2. Zhanibek Alimkhanuly (Kazakhstan) - Top Rank
3. Yosbeny Veitia ( Cuba) - Mick Hennessy
4.Michael Conlon ( Ireland) - Sauerland
5. Shakur Stevenson (USA) - Don King
6. Albert Selimov ( Russia) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Paddy Barnes ( Ireland) - Main Events
8. Roberto Cammerelle ( Italy) - Lou De Bella
9. Evgeny Tishchenko ( Russia) - Matchroom
10. Magomed Omarov (Russia) - Dan Goosen
11. Vasily Levit (Kazakhstan) - allegedly
12. Robson Conceição (Brazil) - Gary Hyde

round 3
1. Adilbek Niyazymbetov (Kazakhstan) Golden boy
2. Javid Chalabiyev ( Azeribajian) Top rank
3. Filip Hrgovic (Croatia) Mick Hennessy
4. Evaldas Petrauskas (Lithuania) Sauerland
5. Merey Akshalov (Kazakhstan) Don King
6. David Oliver joyce (Ireland) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Arisnoidys Despaigne (Cuba) - Main Events
8. Vladimir Nikitin (Russia) -Lou Di Bella
9. Ivan Dychko (Kazakhstan) - Matchroom
10. Willie Donaghue (Ireland) - Dan Goosen
11. Dmytro Mytrofanov (Ukraine) - allegedly
12. Anthony Chacón ( Puerto Rico) - Gary Hyde

round 4
1. Everton Lopes (Brazil) - Golden Boy
2. Darmani Rock (USA) - Top Rank
3. Dmitry Polyanskiy (Russia) - Mick Hennessy
4. Johnny Joyce (Ireland) - Sauerland
5. Artem Chebotarev (Russia) - Don King
6. Mykola Butsenko (Ukraine) Iron Mike Promotions
7. Brendan Irvine (Ireland) - Main Events
8. Erik Pfeifer (Germany) - Lou Di Bella
9. Vincenzo Mangiacapre (Italy) - Matchroom
10. Gabriel Maestre (Venezuala) - Dan Goosen
11. Jack Bateson (England) -allegedly
12. Elías Emigdio (Mexico) - Gary Hyde

Be interesting to see how they progress. You would make Stevenson a 2nd Round pick?

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I would personally pick de La Cruz , Stevenson, or Roberto Marton of Ukraine with the #1 pick all of them have proven they can win international Championships and have youth on thier sides

[tflanagan5]

for the sake of this argument im going to judge the fighters on there talent and how i feel the would adapt to the pro game ,

round 1.

1. Roniel Iglesies Sotologo (Cuba) - Golden boy
2. Magomed Medzhidov (Azeribajian) - Top Rank
3. Joe Ward (Ireland) - Mick Hennessy
4. Julio De La Cruz (Cuba) - Sauerland
5 Robeisy Ramirez (Cuba) - Don King
6. Erislandy Savon (Cuba) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Misha Aloyan (Russia) - Main Events
8. Lazaro Alvarez (Cuba) - Lou Di Bella
9. Andrew Selby ( Wales)- Matchroom
10. Yoandi Toirac (Cuba) - Dan Goosen
11. Anthony Fowler (England) - allegedly
12. Daniyar Yeleussinov (Kazakhstan) - Gary Hyde

round 2

1. Yasniel Toledo (Cuba) - Golden boy
2. Zhanibek Alimkhanuly (Kazakhstan) - Top Rank
3. Yosbeny Veitia ( Cuba) - Mick Hennessy
4.Michael Conlon ( Ireland) - Sauerland
5. Shakur Stevenson (USA) - Don King
6. Albert Selimov ( Russia) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Paddy Barnes ( Ireland) - Main Events
8. Roberto Cammerelle ( Italy) - Lou De Bella
9. Evgeny Tishchenko ( Russia) - Matchroom
10. Magomed Omarov (Russia) - Dan Goosen
11. Vasily Levit (Kazakhstan) - allegedly
12. Robson Conceição (Brazil) - Gary Hyde

round 3
1. Adilbek Niyazymbetov (Kazakhstan) Golden boy
2. Javid Chalabiyev ( Azeribajian) Top rank
3. Filip Hrgovic (Croatia) Mick Hennessy
4. Evaldas Petrauskas (Lithuania) Sauerland
5. Merey Akshalov (Kazakhstan) Don King
6. David Oliver joyce (Ireland) - Iron Mike Promotions
7. Arisnoidys Despaigne (Cuba) - Main Events
8. Vladimir Nikitin (Russia) -Lou Di Bella
9. Ivan Dychko (Kazakhstan) - Matchroom
10. Willie Donaghue (Ireland) - Dan Goosen
11. Dmytro Mytrofanov (Ukraine) - allegedly
12. Anthony Chacón ( Puerto Rico) - Gary Hyde

round 4
1. Everton Lopes (Brazil) - Golden Boy
2. Darmani Rock (USA) - Top Rank
3. Dmitry Polyanskiy (Russia) - Mick Hennessy
4. Johnny Joyce (Ireland) - Sauerland
5. Artem Chebotarev (Russia) - Don King
6. Mykola Butsenko (Ukraine) Iron Mike Promotions
7. Brendan Irvine (Ireland) - Main Events
8. Erik Pfeifer (Germany) - Lou Di Bella
9. Vincenzo Mangiacapre (Italy) - Matchroom
10. Gabriel Maestre (Venezuala) - Dan Goosen
11. Jack Bateson (England) -allegedly
12. Elías Emigdio (Mexico) - Gary Hyde

Be interesting to see how they progress. You would make Stevenson a 2nd Round pick?

yup his the highest underage fighter i have on it, lots of very succesfulunderage fighters find it hard to make the step up to senior so until he is a senior its a bit difficult to judge his potential

[tflanagan5]

I would personally pick de La Cruz , Stevenson, or Roberto Marton of Ukraine with the #1 pick all of them have proven they can win international Championships and have youth on thier sides

De La Cruz is an incredible boxer but his style isnt maybe for the pros and his been shaken before, also no one would watch him he makes rigo look aggresive, in saying that his still a first round pick becasue his the best boxer in all of amatuer boxing

Stevenson hasnt won at senior yet until then his the best underage prospect and who is roberto marton

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I would personally pick de La Cruz , Stevenson, or Roberto Marton of Ukraine with the #1 pick all of them have proven they can win international Championships and have youth on thier sides

De La Cruz is an incredible boxer but his style isnt maybe for the pros and his been shaken before, also no one would watch him he makes rigo look aggresive, in saying that his still a first round pick becasue his the best boxer in all of amatuer boxing

Stevenson hasnt won at senior yet until then his the best underage prospect and who is roberto marton

Yes SStevenson hasnt won on Elite level yet. Robert Marton of Ukraine won Jr World Championships last year along with Stevenson. Actually I forgot the most dominant fighter from the class of 2016 will liklely be Claressa Shields, who at 21 years old in 2016 , could be sitting on 2 Olympics Gold Medals

[tflanagan5]

I see but you can see how senior success if a better indicator there plenty of great underage boxers who didn't do great as seniors eg.nanao Singh,magomed kurbanov, frank isla, Ray recio , Jamie kava agh etc

Shields is great but I think you will find that Katie Taylor is the most dominant amatuer in the world

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I see but you can see how senior success if a better indicator there plenty of great underage boxers who didn't do great as seniors eg.nanao Singh,magomed kurbanov, frank isla, Ray recio , Jamie kava agh etc

Shields is great but I think you will find that Katie Taylor is the most dominant amatuer in the world

You think Taylor has more potential Than Shields? How old is Taylor? Im thinking more along the lines as to who is gonna be the most successful as a pro, which is hard to speculate. I wonder who would ve been #1 pick coming out of prior Olympic years like 1984 and 1976? I think Breland in 1984 , not sure 1976

[tflanagan5]

Like 27 and I doubt Taylor will go pro at this stage, she's dominated for 8+ years barely losing a fight in that time

76 would have been teofilo stevenson
80 probebly Stevenson again
84 breland
88 jones or lewis

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DRAFT PICKS DON'T WORK IN PRO BOXING PROMOTERS GO BY WHICH FIGHTER IS POSSIBLE MONEY MAKER FOR THEM. NOT ALL PROMTERS GO AFTER SOME OF THESE AMATEURS. WHEN U CAN FIND A CANELO TYPE FIGHTER WITH REALLY NO AMATEUR BIG TIME EXPIERENCE BUT CAN FIGHT AND DRAW FANS MEANS MORE THAN ANY MEDAL U CAN WIN. FANS CAN MAKE U OR BREAK U EUROPIAN FIGHTERS DON'T HAVE THE FAN BASE NEEDED TO MAKE THE GREEN BACKS IN THE USA.

If you was a promoter and could pick one fighter from class of 2016 to promote , who would you pick

[tflanagan5]

Joe ward or robesiy Ramirez

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Is Joe Ward really that good? I have yet to see him but know he has won 2 World Championships at a young age. How tall is he ?.thanks

[tflanagan5]

Ya he is and made for the pros, ya world junior and youth champion, European champ at 17 and world bronze medel at 19

6'1 I think

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Ya he is and made for the pros, ya world junior and youth champion, European champ at 17 and world bronze medel at 19

6'1 I think

Have seen sum of Joe Ward earlier today on YouTube, he is good. Very impressive resume so far. I wonder is he still at 178? I think the fighter with most potential is Darmani Rock, never seen a kid that big and Athletic

[tflanagan5]

Ya he is and made for the pros, ya world junior and youth champion, European champ at 17 and world bronze medel at 19

6'1 I think

Have seen sum of Joe Ward earlier today on YouTube, he is good. Very impressive resume so far. I wonder is he still at 178? I think the fighter with most potential is Darmani Rock, never seen a kid that big and Athletic

still 178 and looks to be staying there

rock is still only an underage, and the was lucky to win that world youth final the german was just as big and atlhletic, we will see what he does when he gets to senior thats when you can properly judge potential

you have to remember at rocks age, Ward was already a world junior and youth champion, a european champion and had wins over world champion and furute olympic gold medelist egor mekhontsev

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Ya he is and made for the pros, ya world junior and youth champion, European champ at 17 and world bronze medel at 19

6'1 I think

Have seen sum of Joe Ward earlier today on YouTube, he is good. Very impressive resume so far. I wonder is he still at 178? I think the fighter with most potential is Darmani Rock, never seen a kid that big and Athletic

still 178 and looks to be staying there

rock is still only an underage, and the was lucky to win that world youth final the german was just as big and atlhletic, we will see what he does when he gets to senior thats when you can properly judge potential

you have to remember at rocks age, Ward was already a world junior and youth champion, a european champion and had wins over world champion and furute olympic gold medelist egor mekhontsev

I have seen Rock in Person, he is A freak of Nature. That Championship fight was not a good representation of his skills but still he is A current World Champion and he blew thru the rest of the best in the World at the World Championships. He had only about 30 total bouts before The Worlds, if he works hard and gets his weight down, lookout

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I have seen Rock in Person, he is A freak of Nature. That Championship fight was not a good representation of his skills but still he is A current World Champion and he blew thru the rest of the best in the World at the World Championships. He had only about 30 total bouts before The Worlds, if he works hard and gets his weight down, lookout[/quote]

him and the german were both evenly matched and are both good prospects i was going to put the german on my draft list too

he blew through the competition because super heavyweight is usually a very weak field are underage level, remember Joseph Dawejko won a youth super heavyweight title and is now a journeyman

you only really find out how good a super heavyweight is when he gets to senior

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I have seen Rock in Person, he is A freak of Nature. That Championship fight was not a good representation of his skills but still he is A current World Champion and he blew thru the rest of the best in the World at the World Championships. He had only about 30 total bouts before The Worlds, if he works hard and gets his weight down, lookout

him and the german were both evenly matched and are both good prospects i was going to put the german on my draft list too

he blew through the competition because super heavyweight is usually a very weak field are underage level, remember Joseph Dawejko won a youth super heavyweight title and is now a journeyman

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Its not just the Super Heavyweights but it seems the higher up in weight you go ,the less Athletic and Talented the fighters are. It seems the same in the pros. Dawjeko is like 5 ft 10 , maybe he would be much more successful at Cw. Gonna be interesting to see who progresses the most by late 2016

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Cam Awesome, Usa Heavyweight has pretty impressive credentials

[tflanagan5]

Mate cam awesome is poor, I could name 20 plus better fighters in the amateurs than him

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Mate cam awesome is poor, I could name 20 plus better fighters in the amateurs than him

I saw he beat a couple of Russians at a recent international tournament, I assume assume Russia is sending thier best. Also he just beat A Cuban last nite in Another international tournament

[tflanagan5]

No unless it's a proper tournament Russia send there 4th or 5th string, so he beat no one special

What was the name of the Cuban?

His about top 20-25 in the world in amatuer

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No unless it's a proper tournament Russia send there 4th or 5th string, so he beat no one special

What was the name of the Cuban?

His about top 20-25 in the world in amatuer

Actually I think he is #8 in World Rankings. Not sure name of Cuban he beat but it was at Pan Am Festival last nite