Fury vs Ustinov face to face

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Fury vs Ustinov face to face

Post by geronimo »

This is the face to face. Fury is very sober ;;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E5dzBeo0L8
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I'm interested to see what they weigh in at.
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Ustinov ain't half a big lump.
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If Ustinov comes in under 295 we can assume he is in decent shape based off of past fights. To my eye Fury certainly looks in better shape, but not the best shape he has ever been in when he was fighting Rogan, Johnson and Cunningham.
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Fury has been training solidly for months and still looks flabby with love handles. I bet his diet is shite.
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Two big boys right there. No pumped up beach bodies, just genuine units. I bloody love heavyweights.
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Fury looks in good nick; the love handles aren't too bad, and he looks solid and strong. Bowe was never a body beautiful, nor Holmes, and neither of them were too shabby, of course, they were in a different league skills wise, and far better athletes all round, but you catch my drift.
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Quite right, Jimbo. Heavyweght boxers should never be ripped unless they're on steroids, and even then they'd be selling themselves short. You always lose a lot of muscle and strength gettng ripped, clean or dirty (more so the former) - people find this concept hard to grasp but it's true. There are other advantages to carrying a bit of fat too.

Fury is a monster of a man. Huge frame, huge reach, huge ego. I think he's great value.
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Post by lillywhite14 »

Heavyweights are never ripped, unless they are actually cruisers.

Haye was ripped I guess, was Holyfield ripped? "Ripped" is probably not the best description actually, if we are looking for gay gym terms then these two were more "stacked" than anything, Holy especially ( but of course he was seemingly a big roider )

Fury is a lump and a half. He is indeed great value. Going to be involved in some humdingers and he will be a real highlight knockout for someone at some point.
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I'm using the common vernacular. You're correct, of course, in true bodybulding terms they're never ripped. By the numbers, I personally don't think heavyweights should drop below genuine 10% bodyfat.
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Sklar wrote:Quite right, Jimbo. Heavyweght boxers should never be ripped unless they're on steroids, and even then they'd be selling themselves short. You always lose a lot of muscle and strength gettng ripped, clean or dirty (more so the former) - people find this concept hard to grasp but it's true. There are other advantages to carrying a bit of fat too.

Fury is a monster of a man. Huge frame, huge reach, huge ego. I think he's great value.
What about Wladimir and vitali then?
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What about Bruno, do you think he was on something then? Because he had a hell of a ripped body! For a heavyweight!
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My dad was a big bloke, his belly was solid and cold after 12 pints of bitter. He wasnt ripped as such but kind of round like a big boil. He also had a long reach, I remember him being able to reach for a pint and still put 10p's in the fruit machine.

my dad was a fighting man he talked a good fight, I remember I got filled in by a 40 yearish bloke when I was about 10 (im telling you the truth) and my dad said he would go round and kick the fkuc out of him. Rolling his Golden Virginia and setting off up the road with me following him. He knocked on the door of this house like he was John Wayne. Soon as he saw the bloke who was about a foot taller than my dad he changed his mind and walked off after a bit of a few useless words.

I'm not sure the moral here but im saying if a bigger man is stood on a step he looks bigger so you can imagine a big boxer staring at another boxer who is smaller, the smaller guy must be thinking hes going to get a slapping here.
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Rexob wrote:What about Bruno, do you think he was on something then? Because he had a hell of a ripped body! For a heavyweight!
No Bruno wasnt on drugs.
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Post by Finn »

Brilliant IFL interview with chambers, fury and browne it had me in stitches.
http://youtu.be/0D_uyZ1ZQUg
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mimmy123 wrote:My dad was a big bloke, his belly was solid and cold after 12 pints of bitter. He wasnt ripped as such but kind of round like a big boil. He also had a long reach, I remember him being able to reach for a pint and still put 10p's in the fruit machine.

my dad was a fighting man he talked a good fight, I remember I got filled in by a 40 yearish bloke when I was about 10 (im telling you the truth) and my dad said he would go round and kick the fkuc out of him. Rolling his Golden Virginia and setting off up the road with me following him. He knocked on the door of this house like he was John Wayne. Soon as he saw the bloke who was about a foot taller than my dad he changed his mind and walked off after a bit of a few useless words.

I'm not sure the moral here but im saying if a bigger man is stood on a step he looks bigger so you can imagine a big boxer staring at another boxer who is smaller, the smaller guy must be thinking hes going to get a slapping here.
:lol:
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So its down to having good genes that respond better to training as I'm sure fury has trained his bollox of and still has an average body.
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Try to look beyond the jazz mag aesthetics. That used to be the domain of girls and gays. A 6'9" guy with an 85"+ reach has not got an 'average body'.
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Anthony JOSHUA 6.6 cut up to f... ?
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And..? Read what I wrote (and it's only my opbion) again. I think he'd be an even better prospect if he wasn't pre-occupied with the body beautiful. Even with his stand-out, fast-twitch dominant genetcs, and the metabolism of youth, it still takes a lot of effort to stay that lean. IMO this can be detrimental.
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Two friggin big kids - hope frank has a reinforced ring
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Post by lefty »

Sklar wrote:And..? Read what I wrote (and it's only my opbion) again. I think he'd be an even better prospect if he wasn't pre-occupied with the body beautiful. Even with his stand-out, fast-twitch dominant genetcs, and the metabolism of youth, it still takes a lot of effort to stay that lean. IMO this can be detrimental.
You havent answered my question though mate. Wlad and Vitali look and looked in very good nick and it certainly didnt/hasnt hurt them in the ring.
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So genetics are a major factor of a great body boxing or otherwise. As for the jazz mags for gays and gals you probably no more than me about that subject only my opbion :TU:
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Rexob wrote:So genetics are a major factor of a great body boxing or otherwise.
That goes without saying.
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Post by lefty »

A lot of boxers who i'd consider in good shape dont have 'bodybuilder' type bodies anyway. They have a decent amount of lean muscle mass although not too much and they have a low body fat % although not too low. Froch is a guy that always looks in tremendous condition to me but yet he's not hugely muscular by any stretch. A boxer IMO with the amount of cardio, etc that goes into it shouldnt be fat or have love handles. God knows how John Mcdermott looks the way he does. He must have a shitty training regime or eat non stop when he's not training.
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