Art of Shifting

[ikorolev]

Interesting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijD09_O8ek

[Impractical Poster]

Interesting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijD09_O8ek

Thanks bro. Saw this earlier on BS but wasn't able to view it.

[ikorolev]

At the end, around 11:10, they also show shifting by Korobov and Pirog.

[Jpreisser]

Really informative stuff. This guy is clearly a student of the game as he made another fine video called "Evasive Aggression", which also highlights Golovkin's strong points. I wish more videos were done like that. Thanks for posting.

[ikorolev]

Thanks. Here is the "Evasive Aggression":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGpcxXzpms

[Brut]

Art of Shi ing:

[davie]

Thanks. Here is the "Evasive Aggression":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGpcxXzpms

One thing sprung to mind in the middle of that video, when watching the blocking and parrying with arms section.
There's a couple of clips where he jabs firmly, leaves his arm extended for a bit and sheilds behind it to find an angle for the next punch
how many commentator have you heard insist repeatedly that a fighter has to snap out a jab.

Jim Watt is terrible for it, "he needs to snap out the jab, use it as a weapon" as if it is the only use for the left arm

The jab is one of the most versatile and functional punches in the game, it can be a range finder, it can be used to back up an approaching opponent, as we see with Wlad, when he leaves it hovering in someones face, it can blind an opponent and as we seen with GGG it can act as a blocker to set up other punches, among various other uses.

[davie]

Interesting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijD09_O8ek

As for the shifting, Carl froch uses it to good effect at times, but as it is unusual to see it (and because froch's movements can often look ungainly) it can look scrappy.
In fact Groves pointed to Carl crossing his feet and said "you wouldn't teach an 8 year old to fight like that".
but there is no doubt froch has used it to good effect in many of his fights
the one thing i will say though, is it causes you to square up and if you're caught mid shift as Froch was against Groves in his first fight, you can be made to pay for being off balance.

but as displayed by this video, if used effectively, as it is by GGG and Pirog, it still has it's place.
I do wonder how it would work for someone like GGG against a defensive master like Floyd or Ward.
could it be used to smother an opponent who liked to back up or would you be more likely to be caught with the counter, moving in off balance.

[ikorolev]

Interesting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijD09_O8ek

As for the shifting, Carl froch uses it to good effect at times, but as it is unusual to see it (and because froch's movements can often look ungainly) it can look scrappy.
In fact Groves pointed to Carl crossing his feet and said "you wouldn't teach an 8 year old to fight like that".
but there is no doubt froch has used it to good effect in many of his fights
the one thing i will say though, is it causes you to square up and if you're caught mid shift as Froch was against Groves in his first fight, you can be made to pay for being off balance.

but as displayed by this video, if used effectively, as it is by GGG and Pirog, it still has it's place.
I do wonder how it would work for someone like GGG against a defensive master like Floyd or Ward.
could it be used to smother an opponent who liked to back up or would you be more likely to be caught with the counter, moving in off balance.

I hope to see that one day.

[Jpreisser]

Thanks. Here is the "Evasive Aggression":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGpcxXzpms

One thing sprung to mind in the middle of that video, when watching the blocking and parrying with arms section.
There's a couple of clips where he jabs firmly, leaves his arm extended for a bit and sheilds behind it to find an angle for the next punch
how many commentator have you heard insist repeatedly that a fighter has to snap out a jab.

Jim Watt is terrible for it, "he needs to snap out the jab, use it as a weapon" as if it is the only use for the left arm

The jab is one of the most versatile and functional punches in the game, it can be a range finder, it can be used to back up an approaching opponent, as we see with Wlad, when he leaves it hovering in someones face, it can blind an opponent and as we seen with GGG it can act as a blocker to set up other punches, among various other uses.

Yeah, Golovkin does that often and he rarely seems to be hit cleanly by return fire. Just another testament to his intelligence I suppose.

Good post about the jab as well. Spot on. It is ignorant to think any one punch can be used one way.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Thanks. Here is the "Evasive Aggression":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGpcxXzpms

One thing sprung to mind in the middle of that video, when watching the blocking and parrying with arms section.
There's a couple of clips where he jabs firmly, leaves his arm extended for a bit and sheilds behind it to find an angle for the next punch
how many commentator have you heard insist repeatedly that a fighter has to snap out a jab.

Jim Watt is terrible for it, "he needs to snap out the jab, use it as a weapon" as if it is the only use for the left arm

The jab is one of the most versatile and functional punches in the game, it can be a range finder, it can be used to back up an approaching opponent, as we see with Wlad, when he leaves it hovering in someones face, it can blind an opponent and as we seen with GGG it can act as a blocker to set up other punches, among various other uses.

Isn't leaving a arm out illegal? I've seen referees tell fighters to stop doing it.

[davie]

Thanks. Here is the "Evasive Aggression":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGpcxXzpms

One thing sprung to mind in the middle of that video, when watching the blocking and parrying with arms section.
There's a couple of clips where he jabs firmly, leaves his arm extended for a bit and sheilds behind it to find an angle for the next punch
how many commentator have you heard insist repeatedly that a fighter has to snap out a jab.

Jim Watt is terrible for it, "he needs to snap out the jab, use it as a weapon" as if it is the only use for the left arm

The jab is one of the most versatile and functional punches in the game, it can be a range finder, it can be used to back up an approaching opponent, as we see with Wlad, when he leaves it hovering in someones face, it can blind an opponent and as we seen with GGG it can act as a blocker to set up other punches, among various other uses.

Isn't leaving a arm out illegal? I've seen referees tell fighters to stop doing it.

Well, yes it is, but it happens and it is a use of the jab utilised (however shadily) by fighters. I just used it as an example of one of the many many way a jab can be thrown to different effect.
But your right, it shouldn't be

It can be used legally to block a fighters vision as you throw the back hand. I'm sure Foreman did it a few times against moorer. His right hand was already on route as the left landed, the second the left hand was removed from moorers face the right landed, meaning moorer never seen it coming.