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Bleak
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The joe show

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I've just do loaded it, is I it any good? Will watch when back from work
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Have not seen it but find it strange he gets his own ringside special show when he hasent even produced a world champion yet. Obviously a good trainer but compare him to the calzaghe camp, ingle camp, garcia, roach ect and its night and day
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Joe is good for television and radio because he goes into fanatical automatic send mode and you get no dead air. He lives for boxing.
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rio wrote:Have not seen it but find it strange he gets his own ringside special show when he hasent even produced a world champion yet. Obviously a good trainer but compare him to the calzaghe camp, ingle camp, garcia, roach ect and its night and day
But he has Scott Quigg :OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes:
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Watched this the other day and really enjoyed it.

I think i've been guilty of judging Gallagher on hearsay (he's a loudmouth, abrasive, cocky blah blah), mainly through peoples opinions on forums on twitter, which is clearly a daft thing to do in the first place.

I thought the video did an excellent job of showing what it takes to be a boxing trainer, and why Joe is so successful at it. The bit about him dealing with different personalities in the gym struck a chord, my day job is in social work and since starting coaching boxing in the last couple of years i've noticed definite parallels in skills needed - empathy, communicating with many different (and sometimes difficult) characters, developing a bond of trust, being able to command respect etc.

Joe clearly excels at all of this, just hearing the words from his boxers is testament to that - they all trust him 100% and are happy and comfortable in the gym; i only train a couple of active fighters and it's hard work balancing their personality quirks and nuances sometimes; the fact that he's got so many active and successful fighters is unbelievably impressive to me.

The bit about him being a complete boxing obsessive was really interesting too. When some of the guys were saying how it's sometimes too much, he never switches off and is constantly thinking or talking about boxing. I showed that clip to my wife and i think it cut a little too close to the bone for yours truly :(

I completely understand why he is so obsessed though, it's always amazed me over the years i've been around different gyms how few trainers/coaches are really into the sport. When i was fighting regularly it was me, never my coaches, always watching potential opponents (hard to do without youtube, spent many an hour in dingy working mens clubs watching amateur club events sipping stale lemonade), also loved watching tape of old fighters, trying to break down different techniques and moves, watching how fights develop tactically etc. My coaches were never interested in discussing classic fights, breaking down guys strengths/weaknesses and thinking about strategy in depth.

I know a fair few amateur and pro coaches who turn up at the gym, take the fighters through poorly thought out pads/circuits, bit of sparring and that's it - almost just going through the motions.

Why wouldn't Joe be so obsessed with the sport and constantly analysing fights and fighters? It's his job and he takes it really seriously, it's all for the benefit of his fighters and their careers and livelihood, so i think his commitment is admirable.

I also watched another interview with him the other day, with Kugan out in LA a few months ago. Again it was enlightening and quite inspiring i thought; he's clearly always trying to improve himself as a coach, admits he's constantly learning and wants to get him and his fighters out of their comfort zone, thus investing in the trips abroad.
He does come across as a little abrasive and guarded in the interview (about promotional disputes/manager issues preventing fighters sparring+working together), but again i get it - the politics and nonsense that goes on in boxing seems to frustrate him, he puts his fighters interests above everything and wants the best for them.

Reading this post back does seem a bit daft; i've never met the guy and he might be a complete plonker, but the piece on sky really resonated with me; i think he's clearly an excellent coach and mentor for his fighters, and a great role model for any aspiring boxing coaches/trainers.
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Naandrew wrote:
rio wrote:Have not seen it but find it strange he gets his own ringside special show when he hasent even produced a world champion yet. Obviously a good trainer but compare him to the calzaghe camp, ingle camp, garcia, roach ect and its night and day
But he has Scott Quigg :OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes:
Like it :bow:
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arlovski wrote:Watched this the other day and really enjoyed it.

I think i've been guilty of judging Gallagher on hearsay (he's a loudmouth, abrasive, cocky blah blah), mainly through peoples opinions on forums on twitter, which is clearly a daft thing to do in the first place.

I thought the video did an excellent job of showing what it takes to be a boxing trainer, and why Joe is so successful at it. The bit about him dealing with different personalities in the gym struck a chord, my day job is in social work and since starting coaching boxing in the last couple of years i've noticed definite parallels in skills needed - empathy, communicating with many different (and sometimes difficult) characters, developing a bond of trust, being able to command respect etc.

Joe clearly excels at all of this, just hearing the words from his boxers is testament to that - they all trust him 100% and are happy and comfortable in the gym; i only train a couple of active fighters and it's hard work balancing their personality quirks and nuances sometimes; the fact that he's got so many active and successful fighters is unbelievably impressive to me.

The bit about him being a complete boxing obsessive was really interesting too. When some of the guys were saying how it's sometimes too much, he never switches off and is constantly thinking or talking about boxing. I showed that clip to my wife and i think it cut a little too close to the bone for yours truly :(

I completely understand why he is so obsessed though, it's always amazed me over the years i've been around different gyms how few trainers/coaches are really into the sport. When i was fighting regularly it was me, never my coaches, always watching potential opponents (hard to do without youtube, spent many an hour in dingy working mens clubs watching amateur club events sipping stale lemonade), also loved watching tape of old fighters, trying to break down different techniques and moves, watching how fights develop tactically etc. My coaches were never interested in discussing classic fights, breaking down guys strengths/weaknesses and thinking about strategy in depth.

I know a fair few amateur and pro coaches who turn up at the gym, take the fighters through poorly thought out pads/circuits, bit of sparring and that's it - almost just going through the motions.

Why wouldn't Joe be so obsessed with the sport and constantly analysing fights and fighters? It's his job and he takes it really seriously, it's all for the benefit of his fighters and their careers and livelihood, so i think his commitment is admirable.

I also watched another interview with him the other day, with Kugan out in LA a few months ago. Again it was enlightening and quite inspiring i thought; he's clearly always trying to improve himself as a coach, admits he's constantly learning and wants to get him and his fighters out of their comfort zone, thus investing in the trips abroad.
He does come across as a little abrasive and guarded in the interview (about promotional disputes/manager issues preventing fighters sparring+working together), but again i get it - the politics and nonsense that goes on in boxing seems to frustrate him, he puts his fighters interests above everything and wants the best for them.

Reading this post back does seem a bit daft; i've never met the guy and he might be a complete plonker, but the piece on sky really resonated with me; i think he's clearly an excellent coach and mentor for his fighters, and a great role model for any aspiring boxing coaches/trainers.
Good post from a man who sounds pretty well placed to judge. :salut:
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arlovski wrote:Watched this the other day and really enjoyed it.

I think i've been guilty of judging Gallagher on hearsay (he's a loudmouth, abrasive, cocky blah blah), mainly through peoples opinions on forums on twitter, which is clearly a daft thing to do in the first place.

I thought the video did an excellent job of showing what it takes to be a boxing trainer, and why Joe is so successful at it. The bit about him dealing with different personalities in the gym struck a chord, my day job is in social work and since starting coaching boxing in the last couple of years i've noticed definite parallels in skills needed - empathy, communicating with many different (and sometimes difficult) characters, developing a bond of trust, being able to command respect etc.

Joe clearly excels at all of this, just hearing the words from his boxers is testament to that - they all trust him 100% and are happy and comfortable in the gym; i only train a couple of active fighters and it's hard work balancing their personality quirks and nuances sometimes; the fact that he's got so many active and successful fighters is unbelievably impressive to me.

The bit about him being a complete boxing obsessive was really interesting too. When some of the guys were saying how it's sometimes too much, he never switches off and is constantly thinking or talking about boxing. I showed that clip to my wife and i think it cut a little too close to the bone for yours truly :(

I completely understand why he is so obsessed though, it's always amazed me over the years i've been around different gyms how few trainers/coaches are really into the sport. When i was fighting regularly it was me, never my coaches, always watching potential opponents (hard to do without youtube, spent many an hour in dingy working mens clubs watching amateur club events sipping stale lemonade), also loved watching tape of old fighters, trying to break down different techniques and moves, watching how fights develop tactically etc. My coaches were never interested in discussing classic fights, breaking down guys strengths/weaknesses and thinking about strategy in depth.

I know a fair few amateur and pro coaches who turn up at the gym, take the fighters through poorly thought out pads/circuits, bit of sparring and that's it - almost just going through the motions.

Why wouldn't Joe be so obsessed with the sport and constantly analysing fights and fighters? It's his job and he takes it really seriously, it's all for the benefit of his fighters and their careers and livelihood, so i think his commitment is admirable.

I also watched another interview with him the other day, with Kugan out in LA a few months ago. Again it was enlightening and quite inspiring i thought; he's clearly always trying to improve himself as a coach, admits he's constantly learning and wants to get him and his fighters out of their comfort zone, thus investing in the trips abroad.
He does come across as a little abrasive and guarded in the interview (about promotional disputes/manager issues preventing fighters sparring+working together), but again i get it - the politics and nonsense that goes on in boxing seems to frustrate him, he puts his fighters interests above everything and wants the best for them.

Reading this post back does seem a bit daft; i've never met the guy and he might be a complete plonker, but the piece on sky really resonated with me; i think he's clearly an excellent coach and mentor for his fighters, and a great role model for any aspiring boxing coaches/trainers.
Good post :TU:
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Quality post
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Post by Boxerbeetle »

I've never really understood the hate for Joe, he seems like a good guy who looks after his boxers & gets them into great shape. I also liked his honesty last week when Rigondeaux was mentioned as a potential opponent for Quigg.

Saying that, I'm going to unfollow him on Twitter - he retweets every single fvcking bit of praise aimed at him or his stable, sometimes about 30 at a time.
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Joe is a n&b but he ain't half delivering
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