Floyd warns his father

[ikorolev]

Will he really kick him out ?

http://www.BS.com/mayweather-m ... eer--83044?

[diddy]

http://i59.tinypic.com/2uqdp4x.jpg

[reggaereggae]

I really couldn't care what this dysfunctional, nasty family does. Hopefully they'll all go broke.

In terms of boxing though, it's not as if Floyd really needs a trainer, he knows all there is to know. He just needs an organiser and motivator to her him fit.

[Impractical Poster]

It's scripted.

[ttornado]

There is no Haymon but Haymon.
You will besmirch the good name of your father.
You will not besmirch the good name of Haymon.
All praise be to Haymon.

[ttornado]

No one has any right whatsoever to dictate to this man how he should manage the remaining bouts of his career.

But Haymon is doing exactly that.

[ttornado]

It’s about Floyd denouncing to the media the amount of leverage his father and Ellerbe has in terms of steering his career decisions, which is seemingly non-existent.

So is it just a coincidence that the only other person mentioned by FMJ in that quote was Haymon?
Possibly yes, but I'm speculating that it isn't.

"Once again, my dad has no say-so on my career, [Mayweather Promotions CEO] Leonard Ellerbe has no say-so on my career, and me and Al Haymon, we're going to compromise and communicate and always be on the same page," Mayweather said.

Normally two people are only always on the same page when one is telling the other what to read.

[Lackeos]

"Like I said before, we have people constantly being removed from the Mayweather Promotions team, Team Mayweather, and we also have people being removed from The Money Team."

... The f*ck does he need three teams for?

[ttornado]

"Like I said before, we have people constantly being removed from the Mayweather Promotions team, Team Mayweather, and we also have people being removed from The Money Team."

... The f*ck does he need three teams for?

Just think about the important team, Team Haymon.

[ttornado]

I refuse to allow my bias to cloud my judgment and assume a derogatory stance that may not bear any relevance whatsoever to reality.

I don't know what your bias is, but I have none in regards to this situation. And what is this derogatory stance you talk of?

[ttornado]

. You cannot prove this to be the case, but you won't admit it.

I wrote that I am speculating, that's an admission of exactly that.
What was the derogatory stance? How is saying an adviser advises derogatory?

[ReggieDiggs]

Floyd Sr needs to inquire with Tyson Fury on this sorta sh!t.

[NateJR]

Floyd Sr. isn't Floyds manager, adviser or promoter. Floys Sr. is Floyd Jrs. trainer/father. How the hell is Floyd Sr. going to guarantee something to the public he has no say or control over what so ever? I agree with Floyd, his dad/trainer needs to keep his mouth shut about the fight and worry about what he needs to do and that's to be Floyd Jrs. trainer and father.

It's not about Floyd throwing his family into the gutters, it's not about money being thicker then blood. What all this is about is building a strong team and everyone knowing what they're there for. Floyd Sr. doesn't sign Floyd Jrs. check, Floyd Sr. doesn't negotiate fights for Floyd Jr., Floyd Sr. doesn't get paid nor is he in a position to make any of those decisions so he shouldn't saying shit his ass can't cash.

[ttornado]

You said that Al Haymon “dictates” to Floyd how he manages the remaining bouts of his career... not "advises". The operative word is dictates, .

Except I didn't use the word 'dictates'. That would mean something different but you're the only one of used that word.
What a bizarre character you are?

[ttornado]

There’s nothing “bizarre” about being pedantic! It’s more “bizarre” to conveniently ignore your very own words.

Your word, it was never my word.
I would of phrased it 'strongly advise'.
It's bizarre you can't tell the difference between your own words and the words of others.

[ttornado]

So you're telling me that this didn't happen?

I'm telling you 'dictate' was your word, I wouldn't use that word to describe the situation.

[ttornado]

In simple terms, you regret what you posted and now using a technicality as a weak attempt to distance yourself from your original stance, because you know that it’s impossible to defend.

Technically, I regret what you wrote.

[ttornado]

No one has any right whatsoever to dictate to this man [Floyd Mayweather Jr.] how he should manage the remaining bouts of his career.

But those are your words, in my words Haymon strongly advises FMJ on the bouts remaining in his career.
I hope that clarifies things for you.

[ttornado]

OK, fair enough. You really meant to say that Haymon “strongly advises” Floyd Mayweather.

I took your use of dictate to be closer to the verb than the noun. When you explained what you meant I disagreed, OK?

[palooka]

Could there ever be a Mayweather thread that doesn't degrade to insult and counter insult?

[palooka]

No need to apologise, I'm in a bad mood anyway. I like some of the back and forth insults sometimes but to be honest a lot of the CS is top to bottom argument.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Wouldn't things be better if we'd all ignore Floyd Mayweather Jr when he wasn't in the boxing ring? The guy obviously has NOTHING to add to the world the second the fight is over.

That's the problem with celebrity worship. We just don't know when to turn it off. Why can't we appreciate them for the things they do, and then ignore their personal life? ... especially in cases like Floyd.

[ttornado]

Could there ever be a Mayweather thread that doesn't degrade to insult and counter insult?

My fergusg has been quite civil, and if all Mayweather threads were conducted like this Boxrec would be better for it.

[ttornado]

I extended you an olive branch and you still won’t let this go… and you’ve got the audacity to call me a “bizarre character! LOL

I was only explaining that it was your words that ambiguous and have varying meanings when used colloquially. However what I will say is do thing Haymon is dictatorial with some boxers, although more of a carrot versus a stick dictator. However I don't consider FMJ to be one of those boxers. And yes this speculation. You bizarre pedant.