Monaco Boxing - Who is paying for it?

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BillyTKid
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Monaco Boxing - Who is paying for it?

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We have now seen a few cards in Monaco featuring British fighters with a particularly stacked one this weekend. It looks as though the crowd numbers just a few hundred people, so my question is who is paying the fighters and how are they making any money? Surely GGG v Murray will cost a lot in purses and warrants a much bigger venue?
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I've heard the casinos play a big part, it attracts the wealthy Russians who in turn spend huge sums of money.
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VIP packages for Golovkin-Murray are 4,000 Euros, the venue might only hold 1,000, but if they sell a few hundred of those, plus TV money from HBO. They make up for the small crowds with big ticket prices, I'm not a fan personally because there's no atmosphere, but it's obviously worthwhile if they're carrying on with it.
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I saw Charlene Wittstock's brother in the crowd, so the Grimaldis have an interest if only by marriage.
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robster wrote:I've heard the casinos play a big part, it attracts the wealthy Russians who in turn spend huge sums of money.
I'm not sure how it works in Monaco but I worked in Casinos in the US for close to two decades & how they do it in Vegas is the casino will pay the promoter $Xm to have the fight at their venue. Different boxers bring in a different crowd so the 'drop' (amount of money that goes into the house, not accounting for win/loss revenue) on a normal weekend might be $10 million (to pull a number out of my aris) but for a Mayweather fight it might be $70m.

So only one casino puts up the money. Other casinos get a slice of the action but only one divies up.

Was the Monaco fight at a casino? I haven't been there in over 30 years so have no idea. If not, which casino would pay the money? and how would they guarantee that these Russians come to their casino & not go to one of the others?

I've been wondering about the Monaco boxing money myself. None of the fighters on the bill are big names so I doubt if TV is paying.
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GGG V Murray is wasted in Monaco in my opinion.
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danamba7 wrote:GGG V Murray is wasted in Monaco in my opinion.
Murray is just an 'opponent' unless the fight is in the NW of England anyway.
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Taansend wrote:
danamba7 wrote:GGG V Murray is wasted in Monaco in my opinion.
Murray is just an 'opponent' unless the fight is in the NW of England anyway.
True. Never going to be NW of England obviously due to GGG being the main attraction but atmosphere would be class. I'd prefer it to be Vegas or California to Monaco though, the fight is too big for a small hall type venue.
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danamba7 wrote:
Taansend wrote:
danamba7 wrote:GGG V Murray is wasted in Monaco in my opinion.
Murray is just an 'opponent' unless the fight is in the NW of England anyway.
True. Never going to be NW of England obviously due to GGG being the main attraction but atmosphere would be class. I'd prefer it to be Vegas or California to Monaco though, the fight is too big for a small hall type venue.
Murray can't get a US Visa though and as you say Golovkin wouldn't fight here, so Monaco's the only realistic option left for the fight unless they took it to Kazakhstan.
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expe wrote: Murray can't get a US Visa though and as you say Golovkin wouldn't fight here, so Monaco's the only realistic option left for the fight unless they took it to Kazakhstan.
Yes of course. Sorry, completely forgot about that!
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I'll say it quietly - UK PPV in association with Matchroom?

Could GGG vs Murray fill the MEN?
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stujones wrote:I'll say it quietly - UK PPV in association with Matchroom?

Could GGG vs Murray fill the MEN?
I dont see it being on PPV.
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No atmosphere, crap announcer and how long did national anthem go on for :o
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To the people cutting around Monaco, the sort of money required to put on GGG v Murray is chump change. There are guys who will spunk away Murray's purse in a couple of hours playing roulette.
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Sklar wrote:To the people cutting around Monaco, the sort of money required to put on GGG v Murray is chump change. There are guys who will spunk away Murray's purse in a couple of hours playing roulette.
These fella's will spend that in the Monaco chip shop mate !
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bripez wrote:
Sklar wrote:To the people cutting around Monaco, the sort of money required to put on GGG v Murray is chump change. There are guys who will spunk away Murray's purse in a couple of hours playing roulette.
These fella's will spend that in the Monaco chip shop mate !
Putting what Tyson Fury spends in the chippy to shame! lol

Seriously though. I think certain Casinos are willing to pay the promoter big bucks to stage the fight there due to the... 'consumers' I suppose... it brings in...

There are also the £4k+ VIP packages and TV rights!
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Post by bigB »

Wouldn't this be better in Germany? GGG is based there and has bigger stadiums etc and Murray can fight there as no Visa issues.

Suppose if the Casino is Monaco is stumping up the cash then that is why. I would like to go to this but getting there probably cost me as much as going to vegas
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bigB wrote:Wouldn't this be better in Germany? GGG is based there and has bigger stadiums etc and Murray can fight there as no Visa issues.

Suppose if the Casino is Monaco is stumping up the cash then that is why. I would like to go to this but getting there probably cost me as much as going to vegas
GGG isnt based there. He's lived in LA or california for the last few years. He did live in germany but he's been living in america since hooking up with Abel Sanchez. His wife and son were still living in germany up until very recently i think but they've got out there aswell i think.
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See its on 21sty Feb - might quite fancy this.

How bets to go about getting tickets? Anyone know?
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Terry Dooley wrote:Casino's throw a lot of money up. I was talking to someone who couldn't get their head around Chavez-Froch in Las Vegas, arguing it would make more money in the U.K., but US casino and/or PPV money elevates you into a whole new earning capacity.
I think it would definitely make more money in the UK. Chavez's name is a tad tarnished & Froch isn't a star over here.

However, Carl wants a fight in Vegas and he deserves it too so I hope it works out for him.
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