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New Ring P4P rankings:

1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Wladimir Klitschko

3. Manny Pacquiao

4. Roman Gonzalez

5. Guillermo Rigondeaux

6. Tim Bradley

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Carl Froch

9. Gennady Golovkin

10. Sergey Kovalev

Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

On CV definitely but i think GGG has more ability so depends how you look at it.

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

Yes. I like them both, but Kovalev has a somewhat better resume.

Freedom2013 wrote:http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings

New Ring P4P rankings:

1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Wladimir Klitschko

3. Manny Pacquiao

4. Roman Gonzalez

5. Guillermo Rigondeaux

6. Tim Bradley

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Carl Froch

9. Gennady Golovkin

10. Sergey Kovalev

Gennady ahead of Sergey, really??

lol

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

Both should definitely be above Froch, Marquez and Bradley (why is this guy in top 15 anyway ?)

ikorolev wrote:

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

Both should definitely be above Froch, Marquez and Bradley (why is this guy in top 15 anyway ?)

I agree that Kovalev should be above Froch at this point. But if you think that Golovkin with his win over Daniel Geale belongs above JMM, who KO'd Pacquiao, and Bradley, who decisioned Marquez, then it almost seems like you have an extremely heavy eastern European bias and/or you don't know much about boxing. If not Pacquiao, is there anyone Marquez could KO for you to rank him above a European fighter? What if he KO'd Whitaker, JCC, Duran, Hearns, SRL, or SRR? Or would that still not be enough because none of them are European? In 2012, JMM was considered #3 p4p, there was a pretty strong argument for Pacquiao being #1 p4p, and Marquez KO'd him. How do you rank a fighter who has never even fought anyone better than Daniel Geale ahead of Marquez?

Lackeos wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

Both should definitely be above Froch, Marquez and Bradley (why is this guy in top 15 anyway ?)

I agree that Kovalev should be above Froch at this point. But if you think that Golovkin with his win over Daniel Geale belongs above JMM, who KO'd Pacquiao, and Bradley, who decisioned Marquez, then it almost seems like you have an extremely heavy eastern European bias and/or you don't know much about boxing. If not Pacquiao, is there anyone Marquez could KO for you to rank him above a European fighter? What if he KO'd Whitaker, JCC, Duran, Hearns, SRL, or SRR? Or would that still not be enough because none of them are European? In 2012, JMM was considered #3 p4p, there was a pretty strong argument for Pacquiao being #1 p4p, and Marquez KO'd him. How do you rank a fighter who has never even fought anyone better than Daniel Geale ahead of Marquez?

No, I am just considering how fighters look now and not a few years ago. JMM's and Tim's last performances were not impressive. I think that old resume records are irrelevant for a CURRENT p4p list.

Kovalev over Froch!

JMM and BRADLEY are not top 10 P4P anymore

Kovalev has wins over 4 world champions during 2013-2015:

Cleverly
Hopkins
Pascal
Campillo

Golovkin has a win over 2 world champions, just 1 during 2013-2015:

Daniel Geale
Kassim Ouma

I'm a fan of Golovkin, but clearly Kovalev deserves a higher P4P ranking because of quality of opposition.

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Personally think Kovalev should be above Golovkin in those ratings

Freedom2013 wrote:Kovalev has wins over 4 world champions during 2013-2015:

Cleverly
Hopkins
Pascal
Campillo

Golovkin has a win over 2 world champions, just 1 during 2013-2015:

Daniel Geale
Kassim Ouma

I'm a fan of Golovkin, but clearly Kovalev deserves a higher P4P ranking because of quality of opposition.

Yes, Kovalev had better opposition and power wise he is a monster the same way as Golovkin, but Golovkin is a better boxer.
Kovalev gets off balance A LOT, while Golovkin is always in control of his body. Kovalev's shot selection is limited, for example he doesn't use uppercuts. Kovalev's chin is still a big suspect.

So, if you base on resume, then Kovalev is higher, but if you base on your perception of who a better fighter is, then who would you prefer ?