Ward The Fraud

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Ward The Fraud

Post by bnovelist »

Look at him! Cleaned out 168lbs and has new management but will still keep fighting at 168lbs to avoid the likes of Stevenson and Kovalev :lol:

He'd rather feast on JCC Jr or a smaller GGG, or even Mayweather :lol: Watch him stay clear of light heavyweight until Kovalev and Stevenson

has been knocked out looking extremely worn and vunerable. Ward knows damn well he's killing himself now at this stage making 168....he's the

number one ducker not Khan! At least Khan is chasing big names!!!!!
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If Ward can make his weight safely it'd be stupid to bulk up to enter the light heavy division. He doesn't strike me as a ducker, they don't pick and choose at the Olympics or at any of the tournaments that lead to it. I just wish he could be more active, it's a shame and a waste of a physical prime.
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I think HBO is not approving Oosthuizen and Periban for Ward, so he doesn't have anybody to fight. He could school Fedor Chudinov as a tuneup though. Chudinov has some fake WBA belt. ... and of course he could fight Froch as mandated by WBA, but I can't see him doing that without a tuneup.
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“The U.K. is one thing, Nottingham is something different,” said the 31-year-old American. “Now he’s saying: ‘Well, I came to America, you need to come to Nottingham.‘ The thing is this: Atlantic City, where we fought the finals of the Super Six, is thousands of miles away from my home. That’s a road fight. I live on the West Coast, the fight was on the East Coast, which was a six-hour plane ride for me.

“I’m not willing to come to Nottingham. I don’t think I should have to. But Wembley Stadium, the U.K. as a whole? I’d love to come. There have been talks but Carl is away on holiday and isn’t answering his phone. We’re waiting on you, Carl. If you want to fight, and you want to avenge the loss, or attempt to avenge the loss that you say you desperately want to avenge, you need to pick up the phone and we need to try to figure it out.

“I’ve accepted his invitation to come to the U.K. but it’s going to be on the right terms. I’m not just going to take anything. It’s going to be by mutual agreement if I’m in the U.K..”


http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/3850 ... h-in-limbo
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I have no interest in seeing him fight Froch again. Zero. What would change ?
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I am amazed that certain fighters are expected to move up in weight.And others get a pass.
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bnovelist wrote:Look at him! Cleaned out 168lbs and has new management but will still keep fighting at 168lbs to avoid the likes of Stevenson and Kovalev :lol:

He'd rather feast on JCC Jr or a smaller GGG, or even Mayweather :lol: Watch him stay clear of light heavyweight until Kovalev and Stevenson

has been knocked out looking extremely worn and vunerable. Ward knows damn well he's killing himself now at this stage making 168....he's the

number one ducker not Khan! At least Khan is chasing big names!!!!!
Since when is there an automatic requirement for anyone to move up in weight?? Ward has proven himself time and time again and yes, if he desires to stay at 168 and dominate then so be it.

To call him a fraud only goes to show how much further so called boxing fans as yourself has slid down the ladder.
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tiny_acres wrote:I am amazed that certain fighters are expected to move up in weight.And others get a pass.
One fighter is going on and on about how nobody at his weight will fight him; this while being called out by numerous fighters right above and right below his weight class who are simply trying to get him to in fact do what he says he is able to do.

Namely, fight anyone from 154 to 175.

To my recollection, the other fighter has never made such a claim.
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Ward walks around at 185lb and fought at light heavy in the olympics. Just go ahead and say it he has none zero interest in the likes of Kovalev or

Stevenson. He'll move up in a couple of years after they are battle worn watch lol. Let him keep at low profile at 168lb
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koolkc107 wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:I am amazed that certain fighters are expected to move up in weight.And others get a pass.
One fighter is going on and on about how nobody at his weight will fight him; this while being called out by numerous fighters right above and right below his weight class who are simply trying to get him to in fact do what he says he is able to do.

Namely, fight anyone from 154 to 175.

To my recollection, the other fighter has never made such a claim.
You are a f4cking liar. Golovkin said that he would fight at 154 or 168 (not 175) if it is a PPV fight. Did he decline any such offer ?
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tiny_acres wrote:I am amazed that certain fighters are expected to move up in weight.And others get a pass.
I know. Same thought I have when I see loads of people calling for GGG to move up but far less pressure for Ward to do the same even though there were and still are bouts at 175 which are more interesting than what's available at 168.

Also, was Ward seriously thinking of making his big comeback against Periban, who has one win in his last five and was stopped in three rounds by James Degale a few months ago? That would be a shockingly bad opponent for someone of Ward's caliber who has lost time to make up :o
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Ward won't stay at 168. Not forever. He will move up as his body ages and he absolutely has to to make real $. It's not like guys like Kovalev and Beterbiev are going anywhere. They're gonna be there down the line for many years.
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diddy wrote:Ward won't stay at 168. Not forever. He will move up as his body ages and he absolutely has to to make real $. It's not like guys like Kovalev and Beterbiev are going anywhere. They're gonna be there down the line for many years.
Kovalev will clean up LH and move up or lose to Beterbiev and move up. The same with Beterbiev.
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ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:Ward won't stay at 168. Not forever. He will move up as his body ages and he absolutely has to to make real $. It's not like guys like Kovalev and Beterbiev are going anywhere. They're gonna be there down the line for many years.
Kovalev will clean up LH and move up or lose to Beterbiev and move up. The same with Beterbiev.
To cruiser? Hmmm.
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Beterbiev fought Usyk in amateurs where the Ukranian had an advantage of headgear and "anti-puncher" gloves. I bet Beterbiev will want to try again especially if he beats Kovalev and/or Stevenson.
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Ward will fight at super middle until he cannot make the weight anymore or he gets offered BIG money to move up
I'm sure he ís'nt ducking any-one it would be good to see him fight 2/3 time's a year he aint getting any younger :box:
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Other than Kovelev there is nothing at 175....Stevenson is damn near 40 and is already slipping. Beterbiev has 7 or 8 fights, he aint ready for Ward.
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hurricanemitch14 wrote:Other than Kovelev there is nothing at 175....Stevenson is damn near 40 and is already slipping. Beterbiev has 7 or 8 fights, he aint ready for Ward.
You are probably right, but if Ward waits a couple years, Beterbiev will beat him.
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Kovalev and Stevenson are far more interesting opponents than anyone at 168 in my view and while there may be promotional obstacles to a Stevenson fight now they were previously both on HBO and not working with rival promoters. You ramble on about how Ward would embarrass anyone at 168 so I don't see why you're not calling for him to move up, even just for a few fights to test himself against Kovalev, as you call for GGG to move up because he has no competition at 160. I get the sense that Andre strongly prefers to bring guys down in weight and stay in his comfort zone though.

Marco Antonio Periban :lol:
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ikorolev wrote:
hurricanemitch14 wrote:Other than Kovelev there is nothing at 175....Stevenson is damn near 40 and is already slipping. Beterbiev has 7 or 8 fights, he aint ready for Ward.
You are probably right, but if Ward waits a couple years, Beterbiev will beat him.


Time will tell.....He does look awesome. I think Ward beats Kovalev and im more interested in Ward/Beterbiev assuming Beterbiev is as good as we think.
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Andre Ward said in 2012 he'd fight anyone at 168 or 175

But since then he's ducked both Stevenson and Kovalev.

From ESPN May 12, 2012: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/79 ... bout-works

Andre Ward "I am ready to fight the best 168- and 175-pounders that are out there," Ward told ESPN.com in a recent interview. "At this point, a big fight at 175 is interesting to me. I'm willing to fight anyone at '68 or '75."

But now he wants welterweights like Mayweather and middleweights like GGG to move up and fight him at 168. :oops:
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Kovalev and Beterbiev to cruiser. LOL yea right - there's zero money in that division. No one cares about it.
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diddy wrote:Kovalev and Beterbiev to cruiser.

Trust me, they are NOT moving up to cruiserweight anytime soon.
diddy wrote:LOL yea right - there's zero money in that division. No one cares about it.
The division is loaded with up-and-coming talent.

Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Artur Beterbiev
Egor Mekhontsev
Eleider Alvarez
Medzhid Bektemirov
Erik Skoglund

Then there's a not-so-bad group of veterans:

Andrzej Fonfara
Isaac Chilemba
Sergey Kovalev
Jean Pascal
Adonis Stevenson
Juergen Braehmer
Nadjib Mohammedi
Igor Mikhalkin
Lucian Bute
Gabriel Campillo
Maxim Vlasov
Thomas Oosthuizen
Sakio Bika

And perhaps some of these will eventually move up:

James DeGale, Mikkel Kessler, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Anthony Dirrell, Fedor Chudinov
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The names and money is at 168 plus hes pretty much been out of action for 2 yrs. He hasnt fought anybody.


At least 3 of the 1st batch have single digit pro fights. Yea Ward/fans is gonna pumped having p4p Ward vs a euro dude that 1 nobody knows 2 nobody can pronounce 3 is like 7-0. Thats pretty much all u named so unless Ward relocate to Europe or those guys become a sensation over in the states why would he. Complete arrogance to start throwing a 7-0 guy at a top 3 p4p fighter.
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