Mosley explains why he lost to Pacquiao

[Rodian]

according to Mosley he had a pre-existing injury as well as blisters during the fight.

[Rodian]

i wonder what excuse Floyd has in store

[SFW]

i wonder what excuse Floyd has in store

Crabs

[Ricky_]

i wonder what excuse Floyd has in store

Crabs

[KBB]

He should've just told the truth and said "I lost to Manny because I was way past my better days, Floyd beat the crap out of me for 10 rounds straight and then Mora finished me off, by the time Pacquiao got to me everyone could see I had nothing left and was much too old to do anything to someone younger, fresher and hungrier than me."

[Pureist]

He used his face to stop all of pacquaios punches

[man]

i came to terms a while ago with fighter excuses.
great athletes need to feel kind of invincible to
really perform. the only way to make yourself
believe you are still invincible even after you
suffered a clear loss is to come up with an excuse.

nothing wrong with that. no need to dissect it.

[Pureist]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

[ReggieDiggs]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

I think for your own needs there often can be.

In a highly competitive sport admitting you're the 2nd best isn't a mindset that will help you garner many W's moving forward imho. They say many things are 80% mental. Idk about 80%, but you believing you are the best is needed to become the best so it stands to reason that if you don't think you're the best (ie you didn't lose cuz of some ankle injury or a random foul or what have you) thats gonna effect your ability to be the best so you kinda gotta (or at least it helps) lie to yourself or "fake it til you make it" to use another often used quote.

[cocka09]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

I think for your own needs there often can be.

In a highly competitive sport admitting you're the 2nd best isn't a mindset that will help you garner many W's moving forward imho. They say many things are 80% mental. Idk about 80%, but you believing you are the best is needed to become the best so it stands to reason that if you don't think you're the best (ie you didn't lose cuz of some ankle injury or a random foul or what have you) thats gonna effect your ability to be the best so you kinda gotta (or at least it helps) lie to yourself or "fake it til you make it" to use another often used quote.

I think its ok to admitt you are second best when you are past prime, nearing the end of your career and fighting the second best p4p fighter on the planet.

[Deadendgeneration]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

I think for your own needs there often can be.

In a highly competitive sport admitting you're the 2nd best isn't a mindset that will help you garner many W's moving forward imho. They say many things are 80% mental. Idk about 80%, but you believing you are the best is needed to become the best so it stands to reason that if you don't think you're the best (ie you didn't lose cuz of some ankle injury or a random foul or what have you) thats gonna effect your ability to be the best so you kinda gotta (or at least it helps) lie to yourself or "fake it til you make it" to use another often used quote.

I think its ok to admitt you are second best when you are past prime, nearing the end of your career and fighting the second best p4p fighter on the planet.

Depends if you plan to continue fighting.

[palooka]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

Mosley was the better man on many nights, he was past his best when he boxed Manny and choked as well - all the touching gloves etc, he weren't bothered about touching Adrian Stone's gloves.

[KBB]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

Mosley was the better man on many nights, he was past his best when he boxed Manny and choked as well - all the touching gloves etc, he weren't bothered about touching Adrian Stone's gloves.

Something the Pacquiao faithful will never admit to!!

[greg]

...I sure as hell can relate to boxers coming up with all sorts of excuses if that's the way how they keep themselves motivated...on the other hand I reserve the right to have a good laugh at some of those excuses...

[Ricky_]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

Mosley was the better man on many nights, he was past his best when he boxed Manny and choked as well - all the touching gloves etc, he weren't bothered about touching Adrian Stone's gloves.

Something the Pacquiao faithful will never admit to!!

I think most people realise he was we past his best even by the time he fought Cotto.

[KBB]

I think most people realise he was we past his best even by the time he fought Cotto.

Another load of bull, how many fights did he go on to win after that very closely contested fight? Please give us the answer.

[Pureist]

nothing wrong with saying your opponent was better on the night either

I think for your own needs there often can be.

In a highly competitive sport admitting you're the 2nd best isn't a mindset that will help you garner many W's moving forward imho. They say many things are 80% mental. Idk about 80%, but you believing you are the best is needed to become the best so it stands to reason that if you don't think you're the best (ie you didn't lose cuz of some ankle injury or a random foul or what have you) thats gonna effect your ability to be the best so you kinda gotta (or at least it helps) lie to yourself or "fake it til you make it" to use another often used quote.

reggie, you can lie to other people and get away with it sometimes, but you cant get away with lieing to yourself, if you lost and make up a variety of lies to explain why, they are still lies and you, yourself know theyre lies, if you take the loss on the chin, it will give you something to strive for, revenge the loss, saying he lost because of blisters, gatti beat ward with a broken wrist, ali fought with a broken jaw, theyre excuses

[Ricky_]

I think most people realise he was we past his best even by the time he fought Cotto.

Another load of bull, how many fights did he go on to win after that very closely contested fight? Please give us the answer.

You only have to watch the fights from Cotto onwards. Against Floyd he had been retired for 18months. He was well past it by Cotto. Simple.

[ReggieDiggs]

reggie, you can lie to other people and get away with it sometimes, but you cant get away with lieing to yourself, if you lost and make up a variety of lies to explain why, they are still lies and you, yourself know theyre lies, if you take the loss on the chin, it will give you something to strive for, revenge the loss, saying he lost because of blisters, gatti beat ward with a broken wrist, ali fought with a broken jaw, theyre excuses

Of course you can lie to yourself. People do it all the time. It helps makes things easier on you. People lie to themselves about why they aren't doing this or that, why they aren't as successful as they wanna be, why the girl doesn't like them, why they didn't stop smoking or start that diet yesterday or a million other huge & tiny things. Lying to yourself makes living with yourself a easier task. Its done every day to one degree or another by billions of people if not every person. No one is living a life of 100% truth all day, every day.

A lot of sh!t fails for reasons. The implication is "this would have worked out if not for....". Thats reality more than an excuse, but sure it is an excuse. And its a lie to. Cuz surely in many cases the "if not for..." aspect happened BECAUSE you were second best in the ring. And I don't believe there is necessarily anything wrong with never accepting defeat or accepting being 2nd best. In competitive sports it certainly gives you no benefit, no advantage I see, outside of maybe some minor level of fan appreciation which there is lil to no upside with, to say & think this person is better then me.

And just to be entirely clear there is a certain degree of putting in hard work & identifying + correcting areas of weakness, I don't disagree with anyone there, but if you are not walking into that ring thinking you are the best man you are already defeated a good percentage of the time. And if you watch fights at club shows or even the lesser fights on TV or sometimes bigger fights you'll see guys in there who aren't lying to themselves & aren't in the ring believing they are the best guy in the ring. They are just there to survive or you'll see no attempts to win the fight. And again I'm not saying training & skill, talent don't have play into this, I'm just saying your mindset plays into it too. If you work hard, got natural talent, but don't believe you're the best guy in the ring you are gonna be having some L's maybe you shouldn't be having.

I bet a guy like Floyd has never went into the ring as a pro thinking he was 2nd best. Manny turned pro so young under such un-ideal circumstances idk what sorta mindset he had back then, but from today worst case I imagine you'd have to go back pretty fair to find a time when Manny walked into the ring thinking he was 2nd best. Exceptional fighters have the mindset of being the best, win, lose or draw. Its one of the aspects that make them exceptional.

[KBB]

I think most people realise he was we past his best even by the time he fought Cotto.

Another load of bull, how many fights did he go on to win after that very closely contested fight? Please give us the answer.

You only have to watch the fights from Cotto onwards. Against Floyd he had been retired for 18months. He was well past it by Cotto. Simple.

I disagree with that, he was well past it by the time he fought Pacquiao, he had just had a vicious KO vs Margo (the guy you guys claim Floyd ducked) a guy who beat Cotto with loaded gloves and you cannot do that if you are "Well Past It" as you put it.

In essence all you are stating is that Manny had the most Well Passed It cherrypick vs Shane out of all the guys who fought him.

[Ricky_]

Ok Brut, Shane Mosley was in his prime, his absolute pinnacle against Floyd. Infact, the 18-month layoff simply served to refresh him.

2 fights later against Pacquiao he was a shell of his former self, a bum, a tomato can, a down&out, a drunk & a heroin addict.

[KBB]

Ok Brut, Shane Mosley was in his prime, his absolute pinnacle against Floyd. Infact, the 18-month layoff simply served to refresh him.

2 fights later against Pacquiao he was a shell of his former self, a bum, a tomato can, a down&out, a drunk & a heroin addict.

The Shell of his Former Self is correct, the rest is just you being a condescending A-hole!!

[Pureist]

Reggie, doing the work and having the natural ability make you elite, lieing to yourself doesn't, if your going to lie to yourself about a loss, the next loss will come easier, you can just make up a reason for it, easier than training hard as you should, I respect a boxer who doesn't make excuses, weight drained is the worst, you accept the fight, you accept the result

[SFW]

Dear KBB,

You are using Mayorga as your example? A no skilled brawler that was actually beating Shane on one card and only down a point on another. Mayorga should have never even been in that fight. The guy lived off his ability to take punishment, and he still was even with Shane til the last second. Bad example.


Yours truly,
Manny Pacquiao Fighter of the Decade

[KBB]

Dear KBB,

You are using Mayorga as your example? A no skilled brawler that was actually beating Shane on one card and only down a point on another. Mayorga should have never even been in that fight. The guy lived off his ability to take punishment, and he still was even with Shane til the last second. Bad example.


Yours truly,
Manny Pacquiao Fighter of the Decade

Dear SFW,
There is a difference between MARGO and Mayorga and it is a great example because even though he was a brawler he took punishment and dished it out (although with loaded gloves) and he wasn't even with Shane at all and by the end of the fight he was sprawled out on the canvas and needed to be rescued by the Ref. Great example.

Yours truly,
Floyd Money Mayweather, The Best Ever