Abril out of fight against Derry

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Abril out of fight against Derry

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Boxing scene reporting that Abril has pulled out, likely to be stripped by WBA, Derry will fight for vacant belt.

http://www.BS.com/mathews-barr ... raw--89522
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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What's the script with Abril? He's really inactive! Bit of a slap in the face for Derry but could be a blessing in disguise if he's allowed to contest the vacant title against a late stand in!
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Fvck gutted for Mathews ,I gave him a decent chance of roughing Abril up and making him pay for his inactivity,

Hopefully for Derry ,Wazza can find one of they dudes who magically appeared in the top 15, hypocritical I know but if anyone's paid their dues its Derry Mathews

A fighter who genuinely wants to fight anyone and doesn't seem to give a toss about politix,old school
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Would be interesting to see who they can get in at such short notice.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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The dude Zlaticanan (spelling) who beat burns would probably jump at a title shot! He was pretty small so I don't imagine he struggles bad at the weight. Just a thought.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... _id=326019

This guy is in the frame number 15 with WBA - They are considering it apparently, although not sure what to believe really, hope Derry still
gets his chance though
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Does he not also have Terry Flannagan on his books. Or even Liam Walsh sure both would jump at the chance. Make good fights also both fighters better than Zlaticann and will get sanctioned
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daviddee wrote:Does he not also have Terry Flannagan on his books. Or even Liam Walsh sure both would jump at the chance. Make good fights also both fighters better than Zlaticann and will get sanctioned
Neither are ranked by the WBA, Flanagan should fight for the WBO later this year too.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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GlobalBox wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... _id=326019

This guy is in the frame number 15 with WBA - They are considering it apparently, although not sure what to believe really, hope Derry still
gets his chance though

:TU: :bag:
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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I like Derry but he should not be fighting for the vacant belt against a guy who is at 15 when he is ranked 5

If Abril vacates it should be between 1 and 2 in their rankings
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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expe wrote:
daviddee wrote:Does he not also have Terry Flannagan on his books. Or even Liam Walsh sure both would jump at the chance. Make good fights also both fighters better than Zlaticann and will get sanctioned
Neither are ranked by the WBA, Flanagan should fight for the WBO later this year too.
Both would get moved in easily. It just depends if Warren wants to take a risk with Mathews and a challenger or guarantee the title with both his fighters. No what I would be doing. Remember Derry v Ormond im sure that's in his head
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Naandrew wrote:I like Derry but he should not be fighting for the vacant belt against a guy who is at 15 when he is ranked 5

If Abril vacates it should be between 1 and 2 in their rankings
I agree but not on this short notice.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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daviddee wrote:Does he not also have Terry Flannagan on his books. Or even Liam Walsh sure both would jump at the chance. Make good fights also both fighters better than Zlaticann and will get sanctioned
I read that Flanagan struggled at the weight for Ormand & Liam is big for the weight so they will have to have been in training to be anywhere near & with only just over a week to go.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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pyenest77 wrote:
Naandrew wrote:I like Derry but he should not be fighting for the vacant belt against a guy who is at 15 when he is ranked 5

If Abril vacates it should be between 1 and 2 in their rankings
I agree but not on this short notice.
Still if FW can pull it off its a mega chance for Derry to win a World Title, he would have to defend immediatly against no 1 though.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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If Derry wins a vacant title then how far away is Crolla from a comeback as they could make good money from going at it again with a title on the line.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Emmseegee wrote:If Derry wins a vacant title then how far away is Crolla from a comeback as they could make good money from going at it again with a title on the line.
Different promoters so only going to happen if its a mandatory.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Do the WBA not have rules on this? Surely this has happened before with one of their numerous beltholders. If it's standard procedure for them then i guess i can understand it but smells like a load of shite to me.

I agree with Naandrew that the no1 & 2 challengers should fight or have the option to fight. If this goes ahead, as a minimum, the winner should have to fight the no1.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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daviddee wrote:
expe wrote:
daviddee wrote:Does he not also have Terry Flannagan on his books. Or even Liam Walsh sure both would jump at the chance. Make good fights also both fighters better than Zlaticann and will get sanctioned
Neither are ranked by the WBA, Flanagan should fight for the WBO later this year too.
Both would get moved in easily. It just depends if Warren wants to take a risk with Mathews and a challenger or guarantee the title with both his fighters. No what I would be doing. Remember Derry v Ormond im sure that's in his head
The shows in 9 days, there's no time to move them into the rankings before the fight.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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GlobalBox wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... _id=326019

This guy is in the frame number 15 with WBA - They are considering it apparently, although not sure what to believe really, hope Derry still
gets his chance though
He, surprisingly, wasn't too bad when he fought Kinda on US TV. I was expecting him to be a patsy in that fight, turned he could actually box.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Boxing Prospect wrote:
GlobalBox wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... _id=326019

This guy is in the frame number 15 with WBA - They are considering it apparently, although not sure what to believe really, hope Derry still
gets his chance though
He, surprisingly, wasn't too bad when he fought Kinda on US TV. I was expecting him to be a patsy in that fight, turned he could actually box.
I saw that. Chiefly memorable for being the first time I've seen a fight where you can answer the question "Can he fight?" with the name of one of the participants.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Why is Abril going to get stripped?
Matthews isn't mandatory?
Did Frank put a clause in the contract or something?
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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keirw wrote:Why is Abril going to get stripped?
Matthews isn't mandatory?
Did Frank put a clause in the contract or something?
Just because of general inactivity I'm guessing.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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Datsue wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:
GlobalBox wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=bo ... _id=326019

This guy is in the frame number 15 with WBA - They are considering it apparently, although not sure what to believe really, hope Derry still
gets his chance though
He, surprisingly, wasn't too bad when he fought Kinda on US TV. I was expecting him to be a patsy in that fight, turned he could actually box.
I saw that. Chiefly memorable for being the first time I've seen a fight where you can answer the question "Can he fight?" with the name of one of the participants.
:bow: :OhYes: :lol:
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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keirw wrote:Why is Abril going to get stripped?
Matthews isn't mandatory?
Did Frank put a clause in the contract or something?
Second time he's pulled out within two weeks of the fight, pulled out of a fight in Russia last May, think there's been other pull outs too and he's only fought twice in the last 2 years. Not even given a reason for pulling out this time and they won't make a statement on it until next week. At some point something had to give and obviously this is it.
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Re: Abril out of fight against Derry

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expe wrote:
keirw wrote:Why is Abril going to get stripped?
Matthews isn't mandatory?
Did Frank put a clause in the contract or something?
Second time he's pulled out within two weeks of the fight, pulled out of a fight in Russia last May, think there's been other pull outs too and he's only fought twice in the last 2 years. Not even given a reason for pulling out this time and they won't make a statement on it until next week. At some point something had to give and obviously this is it.
Pulled out of a Linares bout in 2013
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