Anthony Joshua's Next Fights?
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dempseyfire
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Re: Anthony Joshua's Next Fights?
I think Johnson is fine for this stage of his career, but agree about Love . . complete waste of time.
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baron_otto
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Me toofergusg wrote:I agree!dempseyfire wrote:I think Johnson is fine for this stage of his career, but agree about Love . . complete waste of time.![]()
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Both opponents are fine.
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If they only want "opponents" rather than somebody who may actually try to win the fight then Johnson is fine.
If Johnson cannot dominate from the opening bell forward he will make no attempt to win the fight.
If Johnson cannot dominate from the opening bell forward he will make no attempt to win the fight.
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He wasn't dominating Charr or Hammer, but he made some effort to win those fights.Perseus wrote:If they only want "opponents" rather than somebody who may actually try to win the fight then Johnson is fine.
If Johnson cannot dominate from the opening bell forward he will make no attempt to win the fight.
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The love fight as a warm up to Johnson doesn't bother! After these 2 fights then i will expect a better calibre of opponent.
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tiny_acres
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He has done nothing to earn his place in the alphabet ratings fiasco.
But as we all know that does not mean anything.I hope Joshua fights a top 50 opponent
after these 2 jokes.
But as we all know that does not mean anything.I hope Joshua fights a top 50 opponent
after these 2 jokes.
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Johnson is a top 50 opponent.tiny_acres wrote:He has done nothing to earn his place in the alphabet ratings fiasco.
But as we all know that does not mean anything.I hope Joshua fights a top 50 opponent
after these 2 jokes.
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tiny_acres
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No he is not.Horse wrote:Johnson is a top 50 opponent.tiny_acres wrote:He has done nothing to earn his place in the alphabet ratings fiasco.
But as we all know that does not mean anything.I hope Joshua fights a top 50 opponent
after these 2 jokes.
Re: Anthony Joshua's Next Fights?
I disagree.tiny_acres wrote:No he is not.
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tiny_acres
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He has not had a win in over 2 years and has lost 4 out of the last 5.Horse wrote:I disagree.tiny_acres wrote:No he is not.
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I thought he deserved the win against Hammer and the Charr fight was close.tiny_acres wrote:He has not had a win in over 2 years and has lost 4 out of the last 5.
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Joshua is fighting Love 21 days before he fights Johnson. How the f*ck does someone even complain about that? It's not like he's fighting Love and then taking 8 months off. He's fighting 3 times in less than 2 months.
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I strongly disagree with your scoring of those fights.fergusg wrote:Johnson only won two rounds against Hammer and Charr from both ten round fights he lost.
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fergusg wrote:It seems that Anthony Joshua’s next two fights have been finalised:
• First up is Raphael Zumbano Love, who Joshua faces on the 9th May. The skinny yet flabby Brazilian:
You just described me
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The judges don't matter and they are not worth quoting.fergusg wrote:I quoted the official judges scorecards. I personally only scored the Charr fight and I didn't think the bout was that close.
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Boxing Writer
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Re: Anthony Joshua's Next Fights?
After Johnson fight I'd like to see Joshua against the guy who recently outboxed and outclassed overrated Manuel Charr - Johann Duhaupas.
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Being top 50 ranked doesn't mean the fighter is world class.fergusg wrote:The judges awarded two losses on the Kingpins resume... so they count. And I concur with the scoring of one of those defeats.
If you think that Kevin Johnson is a world-class fighter, then good for you.
I just think that Johnson has a sturdy chin that poses no threat whatsoever to AJ's unblemished record.
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Duhaupas didn't outclass Charr.Boxing Writer wrote:After Johnson fight I'd like to see Joshua against the guy who recently outboxed and outclassed overrated Manuel Charr - Johann Duhaupas.
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That's who I'd like to see him fight too.Boxing Writer wrote:After Johnson fight I'd like to see Joshua against the guy who recently outboxed and outclassed overrated Manuel Charr - Johann Duhaupas.
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jezzamundo
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Re: Anthony Joshua's Next Fights?
By the time both of these fights have taken place, Joshua will have been a pro boxer for 18 months and 13 fights and he will still be 25 years old.
By comparison, after 18 months as a pro boxer, Wilder had 10 fights and was 24 years old. Johnson is better than every single Wilder opponent except Stiverne.
Mike Tyson's 13th opponent was 15-7-2 Conroy Nelson.
I agree that Love is a weak opponent at this stage, but he seems fairly durable and has never been blown out early. Johnson is a durable guy, a former world title contender, has never been stopped and was recently competitive with Manuel Charr and was arguably robbed against Christian Hammer. If Joshua stops him at all, it is impressive. If he takes Joshua the distance, or even late into the fight, it is valuable experience for him. I think Johnson is an excellent choice of opponent for this stage of his career.
By comparison, after 18 months as a pro boxer, Wilder had 10 fights and was 24 years old. Johnson is better than every single Wilder opponent except Stiverne.
Mike Tyson's 13th opponent was 15-7-2 Conroy Nelson.
I agree that Love is a weak opponent at this stage, but he seems fairly durable and has never been blown out early. Johnson is a durable guy, a former world title contender, has never been stopped and was recently competitive with Manuel Charr and was arguably robbed against Christian Hammer. If Joshua stops him at all, it is impressive. If he takes Joshua the distance, or even late into the fight, it is valuable experience for him. I think Johnson is an excellent choice of opponent for this stage of his career.
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Boxing Writer
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You are right - Charr doesn't have any class as a boxer, so he can't be outclassed.Horse wrote:Duhaupas didn't outclass Charr.Boxing Writer wrote:After Johnson fight I'd like to see Joshua against the guy who recently outboxed and outclassed overrated Manuel Charr - Johann Duhaupas.
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I scored it for Charr.Boxing Writer wrote:You are right - Charr doesn't have any class as a boxer, so he can't be outclassed.
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Johnson also has good defense in addition to the good chin, and Joshua hadn't fought a fighter with good defense in the pros yet. So it should be new learning experience for him, no problem with Johnson as Joshua's opponent at this stage of his career.fergusg wrote:The judges awarded two losses on the Kingpins resume... so they count. And I concur with the scoring of one of those defeats (as I didn't watch the other fight in its entirety).Horse wrote:The judges don't matter and they are not worth quoting.fergusg wrote:I quoted the official judges scorecards. I personally only scored the Charr fight and I didn't think the bout was that close.
If you think that Kevin Johnson is a world-class fighter, then good for you.
I just think that Johnson has a sturdy chin that poses no threat whatsoever to AJ's unblemished record.
Lennox Lewis' opposition in his first 11 fights wasn't any better than Joshua's one. In fact, I'd say it was worse (add here that Lennox had much more fights in the amateurs than Joshua).