Floyd says he's better than Ray Robinson

[Pureist]

Floyd is running his mouth off again claiming to be better than sugar Ray Robinson, I think with the number of fights Floyd has had he would qualify to lace up robinsons gloves but let's face facts, Floyd can't fight more than twice a year, Robinson fought twice a month in some instances, diets were meat before fights in his days, he fought everyone sometimes multiple times, I can't believe Floyd could even think along those lines, what a knob

[jezzamundo]

He's right.

His defense is better than Ray Robinson's ever was.
He has made more money than Ray Robinson ever did.

That's what he was talking about, right? I mean, he wouldn't seriously suggest that he would actually be able to beat a welterweight Robinson, would he?

[ClivePatrickLyons]

He claims he is better than ALI and ROBINSON [no respect] if these two were fighting today MAYWEATHER would not hold any PPV record's
he would not be undefeated because ROBINSON would have torn his ass up
THREE year's of ALI prime fighting day's was taken from him by the USA government no-one in history would have touched him during that time:yay:

[klitoris]

Floyd is delusional

[tiny_acres]

Though I do not agree with what Floyd said.I have no problem with him saying it.
You have to believe you are the best.He believes it.

[ral]

Mistake

[ral]

I think Floyd is gonna have his hands full with Pac .He should only be thinkin that right now not who he's better than..he is talkin about two of the greatest Boxers of all time IMHO..Both of them could hit, Sugar being the stonger puncher I think of the two ..plus let anyone get in the ring with
La Motta.. Wasn't the argument with Ali yrs ago that no Heavyweight moved like him and that his hands were like a Featherweight and middleweight?

I thought both of them, Sugar and Muhammad were Genius's in the ring and for those times they both made Big Bread..Plus from what I have read, both have gone out of their way to be a help and a role model for young people. Never ever any racial over or undertones. I have seen footage of Ali talking and treating kids and aduts with such kindnes out of the ring...Sometimes it's hard to go back to the books and remember how dangerous he could be..

ral

[KBB]

Floyd is supposed to say that every fighter is better than him according to so called boxing fans of which 99% has never even seen SRR fight before and only know him for his record.

The reason SRR had so many bouts is because back then fighters didn't get paid what they make today so fighting as much as they can to make a living was very common and often times they had to fight the same fighters over and over again just to make ends meet that is why you see many of their records had the same names on them several times.

SRR had many flaws regardless of how much we say he is the one the name P4P originated from, that is from an era that is past, I believe in future generations Floyd may surpass him and be the very definition of how the term P4P is defined.

Who really knows if Floyd is better than SRR or if SRR is better than Floyd for that matter, virtually no film exists of SRR in his prime so how can anyone compare them properly but Mayweather is basing what he is stating out of what exists in the SRR library and how CompuBox reviewed his stats and summed them up which when they did Mayweather came out miles ahead better in the + - categories.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1135 ... x-at-least

I still have yet to hear Ali say that SRR was better than him or for that matter many other fighters as well.

[big train express]

Floyd is supposed to say that every fighter is better than him according to so called boxing fans of which 99% has never even seen SRR fight before and only know him for his record.

The reason SRR had so many bouts is because back then fighters didn't get paid what they make today so fighting as much as they can to make a living was very common and often times they had to fight the same fighters over and over again just to make ends meet that is why you see many of their records had the same names on them several times.

SRR had many flaws regardless of how much we say he is the one the name P4P originated from, that is from an era that is past, I believe in future generations Floyd may surpass him and be the very definition of how the term P4P is defined.

Who really knows if Floyd is better than SRR or if SRR is better than Floyd for that matter, virtually no film exists of SRR in his prime so how can anyone compare them properly but Mayweather is basing what he is stating out of what exists in the SRR library and how CompuBox reviewed his stats and summed them up which when they did Mayweather came out miles ahead better in the + - categories.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1135 ... x-at-least

I still have yet to hear Ali say that SRR was better than him or for that matter many other fighters as well.

Would you be ok if pacquiao said he was better than SRR?

[Pureist]

Ali wouldn't be that disrespecful to say he was better than SRR, kbb, I've come to the belief your just down right stupid, fighting as much as he did Robinson would have been fighting with injuries constantly, not 12 rounds, 15 rounds, Floyd would have retired 15 years ago if he was made to fight 5 times a year, I've met 10 year olds with more boxing knowledge than you ya tool

[kidbazooka1]

Ali wouldn't be that disrespecful to say he was better than SRR, kbb, I've come to the belief your just down right stupid, fighting as much as he did Robinson would have been fighting with injuries constantly, not 12 rounds, 15 rounds, Floyd would have retired 15 years ago if he was made to fight 5 times a year, I've met 10 year olds with more boxing knowledge than you ya tool

Did you not know Leonard Ellerbe was a member here.

He goes by the nickname KBB.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Both are great. Era comparisons are stupid. People always pick the athlete from the era they revere more ... so Jordan > Lebron, even though Lebron is more skilled and athletic than Jordan ever was.

Also, if we are going to say that Floyd has ATG defense, then it's contradictory to say some fighter completely destroys him. His defense is all-time great status because it supposedly is supposed to hold up against all-time greats.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Would you be ok if pacquiao said he was better than SRR?

There seems to be a an important fact lost in all the Floyd/Manny hype ... Floyd Mayweather is a better fighter than Manny Pacquiao.

[KBB]

Would you be ok if pacquiao said he was better than SRR?

Yes, but does Manny have the stats to back it up??

Floyd was stating he is better due to his CompuBox stats and the fact that he has never been beaten, knocked down (officially), beaten up, taken a lot of punishment or nor KO'd.

Can Manny say that? Can SRR say that??

[IKSRTFO]

Would you be ok if pacquiao said he was better than SRR?

Yes, but does Manny have the stats to back it up??

Floyd was stating he is better due to his CompuBox stats and the fact that he has never been beaten, knocked down (officially), beaten up, taken a lot of punishment or nor KO'd.

Can Manny say that? Can SRR say that??

Manny can say he's the only 8 division champ. And it's still BS just like Floyd claiming his punch stats make him the best. Floyd relying on stats that only been counted in the last what, 25 years?

Whose to say Robinson's stats don't look better? Go find his punch stats and compare them to Floyd's

[KBB]

Manny can say he's the only 8 division champ. And it's still BS just like Floyd claiming his punch stats make him the best. Floyd relying on stats that only been counted in the last what, 25 years?

Whose to say Robinson's stats don't look better? Go find his punch stats and compare them to Floyd's

8 divisions, you mean that bogus one you counted with him and the Cheater Margo?? LOL

SRR has no video footage of him available in his prime but CompuBox did do footage of all his other stuff and they measured the results and still Mayweather came out MILES ahead of him.

[IKSRTFO]

Manny can say he's the only 8 division champ. And it's still BS just like Floyd claiming his punch stats make him the best. Floyd relying on stats that only been counted in the last what, 25 years?

Whose to say Robinson's stats don't look better? Go find his punch stats and compare them to Floyd's

8 divisions, you mean that bogus one you counted with him and the Cheater Margo?? LOL

SRR has no video footage of him available in his prime but CompuBox did do footage of all his other stuff and they measured the results and still Mayweather came out MILES ahead of him.

So they only did half of his compubox and compared it to Floyd's full career? And that's your fair assessment? Dumbass

[jamesmcdonnell]

Manny can say he's the only 8 division champ. And it's still BS just like Floyd claiming his punch stats make him the best. Floyd relying on stats that only been counted in the last what, 25 years?

Whose to say Robinson's stats don't look better? Go find his punch stats and compare them to Floyd's

8 divisions, you mean that bogus one you counted with him and the Cheater Margo?? LOL

SRR has no video footage of him available in his prime but CompuBox did do footage of all his other stuff and they measured the results and still Mayweather came out MILES ahead of him.

That is not true, there is footage of robinson in his welterweight prime - I've watched it myself. It's easily found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41A4-n903Hs

[KBB]

So they only did half of his compubox and compared it to Floyd's full career? And that's your fair assessment? Dumbass

Here read it for yourself Idiot:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1135 ... x-at-least

[KBB]

That is not true, there is footage of robinson in his welterweight prime - I've watched it myself. It's easily found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41A4-n903Hs

Quoted from the article above:


The one fighter who many consider to be the best ever, Sugar Ray Robinson, didn't have any film of fights in his prime so he did not receive a number.

[koolkc107]

Both are great. Era comparisons are stupid. People always pick the athlete from the era they revere more ... so Jordan > Lebron, even though Lebron is more skilled and athletic than Jordan ever was.

Also, if we are going to say that Floyd has ATG defense, then it's contradictory to say some fighter completely destroys him. His defense is all-time great status because it supposedly is supposed to hold up against all-time greats.

No huge disagreement with this take except for the LeBron vs Jordan thing.

Jordan, right now, is better. Lebron has a chance to surpass him.

But he has to do at least some of the things Mike did.

Mike would have made the HOF if he never scored a point, being a 1st team all defensive guy a record 9 times (LeBron has 5 such selections).

Mike has 6 rings to LeBron's 2; and has 6 Finals MVPs as well. Jordan never lost a Final.

But most of all, I need to see LeBron's Scotty Pippens, BJ Armstrongs, and steve Kerrs.

I need to see LeBron take a good player and make him into an all-star; or a great player into a HOFer.

When I see that, I will agree that James is as good or better than Jordan.

[Ricky_]

Ray schooled Joey Maxim in a World LightHeavyweight Title fight. That would be today's equivalent of Mayweather vs Kovalev or Stevenson. The comparison is insulting.

[KBB]

Both are great. Era comparisons are stupid. People always pick the athlete from the era they revere more ... so Jordan > Lebron, even though Lebron is more skilled and athletic than Jordan ever was.

Also, if we are going to say that Floyd has ATG defense, then it's contradictory to say some fighter completely destroys him. His defense is all-time great status because it supposedly is supposed to hold up against all-time greats.

I disagree with you on Jordan vs LeBron, the stats speaks for themselves:

http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_ ... jordan.htm

[KBB]

Ray schooled Joey Maxim in a World LightHeavyweight Title fight. That would be today's equivalent of Mayweather vs Kovalev or Stevenson. The comparison is insulting.

So all one has to do is school one fighter and that automatically makes them better, talk about insulting.

[IKSRTFO]

Manny can say he's the only 8 division champ. And it's still BS just like Floyd claiming his punch stats make him the best. Floyd relying on stats that only been counted in the last what, 25 years?

Whose to say Robinson's stats don't look better? Go find his punch stats and compare them to Floyd's

8 divisions, you mean that bogus one you counted with him and the Cheater Margo?? LOL

SRR has no video footage of him available in his prime but CompuBox did do footage of all his other stuff and they measured the results and still Mayweather came out MILES ahead of him.

That is not true, there is footage of robinson in his welterweight prime - I've watched it myself. It's easily found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41A4-n903Hs

"Footage" I'm talking about ALL of his fights. You can't compare Floyd's career statistics to pieces of Robinson or Armstrong's career.