PACQUIAO WAS BORING

[KBB]

A lot of talk is being made about how Floyd was supposedly running (though I'm not sure how he was able to do that and still throw more and land more than Manny did), the onus was on Pacquiao to make the fight exciting and he didn't.

Manny never really pressed the attack enough, in fact I had about 30 people at my house for the fight and they were all screaming for Pacquiao to do something, anything but just attack him and he just simply rocked side to side as though he was trying to outbox Floyd.

If anyone who was the culprit in making it a boring fight then I'd say it was Manny, there were many instances in the bout where Floyd was coming forward and walking him down and yet the SORE LOSERS here are still saying Mayweather was running.

So the question is, if this fight was so boring, why didn't Manny do anything to change the way he was fighting to make it exciting, he supposedly had the excellent gameplan by the supposed Best Trainer in Boxing on how to cut off the ring and for MP to throw multiple combos and win easily with one hand tied behind his back with a KO??

Manny made the fight boring!!

[Impractical Poster]

Simple... Manny could not mount an effective offense against Floyd because Floyd is one of the best defensive fighters in history.

You are obsessed Brut.

All you have to do is look at their body of work. This fight played out like most of Floyd's fights. If people thought it was boring, then they think most of his fights are boring. Manny needs someone to engage him in order to look spectacular. He is one of the best offensive fighters of all time.

Like they say about football... A great offense wins games. A great defense wins championships.

Seems to work well here.

Mayweather boxed brilliantly. It depends on what you like. If you are a fan of the hit and don't get hit aspect of boxing, Mayweather showcased a clinic for you and you loved it. But, if you are a fan of blood and guts, back and forth action, Mayweather is not really really your guy. Just the way it is.

I like a mix of both.

Stop being so sore that people think your beloved Floyd is boring. Most people just prefer a more action, less efficient style.

[NateJR]

How dare Floyd fight from the outside against the shorter opponent. How dare Floyd not stand in the pocket and trade punches with a guy he was comfortably out boxing. How dare the judges score the fight for the guy clearly landing and throwing more punches. How dare these people blame Pacquiao for a lack luster performance, blame Mayweather. How dare people blame Pacquiao for hiding a injury from the public. How dare anyone question Pacquiaos injury. How dare Floyd go into a fight with injuries as well, but still perform at a high level unlike Pacquiao was able to do. How dare anyone give Floyd the close rounds and how dare Kenny Bayless allow Floyd to hold a few times in the fight and not deduct 3 points from him. How dare Floyd to cover up after getting hit with a good shot. How dare score Floyd countless jabs landing but not score Mannys missed flurries.. How dare they rob the public of finally hearing Floyd losing the scorecards in a fight he clearly won. It's just horrible!! Horrible!!

[Ricky_]

Manny needs someone to engage him in order to look spectacular.

Indeed, but that's more true of Floyd.

[Impractical Poster]

Manny needs someone to engage him in order to look spectacular.

Indeed, but that's more true of Floyd.

He's great at countering, but he can also lead with pot shots from the outside. His footwork and counters limit almost every opponent he has ever faced. The only opponents who really troubled Floyd were fighters who engaged him aggressively, per Castillo, Maidana.

I guess what I should have said about Manny is that he needs someone if front of him... not so much engaging, but a more stationary target.

I thought it was a bit funny, but sad, when Manny stated that he couldn't hit Mayweather because he wouldn't stay still.....LOL. No crap Manny! What where you expecting??

[Freedom2013]

A Mayweather fan calling another fighter boring?

Pacquiao was injured, yet still tried to make a fight of it.

Compare Mayweather-Cotto to Pacquiao-Cotto. Who is the more exciting boxer? KBB, be FAIR and not racist for once.

[KBB]

A Mayweather fan calling another fighter boring?

Pacquiao was injured, yet still tried to make a fight of it.

Compare Mayweather-Cotto to Pacquiao-Cotto. Who is the more exciting boxer? KBB, be FAIR and not racist for once.

I am being fair, dude threw less punches and landed less. Why has everything has to be a matter of race with you? Oh nevermind, I just realized I was addressing the King of the Skinheads, get out of my thread trying to pull the race card you racist bastard.

[hhaehre]

A lot of talk is being made about how Floyd was supposedly running (though I'm not sure how he was able to do that and still throw more and land more than Manny did), the onus was on Pacquiao to make the fight exciting and he didn't.

Manny never really pressed the attack enough, in fact I had about 30 people at my house for the fight and they were all screaming for Pacquiao to do something, anything but just attack him and he just simply rocked side to side as though he was trying to outbox Floyd.

If anyone who was the culprit in making it a boring fight then I'd say it was Manny, there were many instances in the bout where Floyd was coming forward and walking him down and yet the SORE LOSERS here are still saying Mayweather was running.

So the question is, if this fight was so boring, why didn't Manny do anything to change the way he was fighting to make it exciting, he supposedly had the excellent gameplan by the supposed Best Trainer in Boxing on how to cut off the ring and for MP to throw multiple combos and win easily with one hand tied behind his back with a KO??

Manny made the fight boring!!

It really kills you that your guy is one of the most boring fighters of all time doesn't it?
Hey, maybe if Floyd could fight Ward time would stop. We'd live forever but would it really be worth it?

[KBB]

It really kills you that your guy is one of the most boring fighters of all time doesn't it?
Hey, maybe if Floyd could fight Ward time would stop. We'd live forever but would it really be worth it?

It doesn't bother me at all, what you call boring, I call "skills" that shut his opponents down just as it did to your action superhero Manny. Seems you're the butthurt one coming here not addressing the topic.

Manny was boring as hell, he did nothing, even his own fans were displeased but instead because of their own confusion they blame Floyd.

[Chepppaaa]

A Mayweather fan calling another fighter boring?

Pacquiao was injured, yet still tried to make a fight of it.

Compare Mayweather-Cotto to Pacquiao-Cotto. Who is the more exciting boxer? KBB, be FAIR and not racist for once.

I am being fair, dude threw less punches and landed less. Why has everything has to be a matter of race with you? Oh nevermind, I just realized I was addressing the King of the Skinheads, get out of my thread trying to pull the race card you racist bastard.

answering a question without answering a question, bruts specialty

[hhaehre]

It really kills you that your guy is one of the most boring fighters of all time doesn't it?
Hey, maybe if Floyd could fight Ward time would stop. We'd live forever but would it really be worth it?

It doesn't bother me at all

Really? Is that why you started your own thread whining about it?
Listen, most people here agree with the decision but you can't force people to love the guy. Outside the ring he appears to be a real pos and inside it he will bore people to tears, your man-love for the guy notwithstanding.

[KBB]

It really kills you that your guy is one of the most boring fighters of all time doesn't it?
Hey, maybe if Floyd could fight Ward time would stop. We'd live forever but would it really be worth it?

It doesn't bother me at all

Really? Is that why you started your own thread whining about it?
Listen, most people here agree with the decision but you can't force people to love the guy. Outside the ring he appears to be a real pos and inside it he will bore people to tears, your man-love for the guy notwithstanding.

No, I started it to watch turds whine about it like you.

[hhaehre]

It doesn't bother me at all

Really? Is that why you started your own thread whining about it?
Listen, most people here agree with the decision but you can't force people to love the guy. Outside the ring he appears to be a real pos and inside it he will bore people to tears, your man-love for the guy notwithstanding.

No, I started it to watch turds whine about it like you.

So you started to whine about people not loving Floyd enough so that others could whine about how insanely boring he is to watch?

[Ricky_]

Manny needs someone to engage him in order to look spectacular.

Indeed, but that's more true of Floyd.

He's great at countering, but he can also lead with pot shots from the outside. His footwork and counters limit almost every opponent he has ever faced. The only opponents who really troubled Floyd were fighters who engaged him aggressively, per Castillo, Maidana.

I guess what I should have said about Manny is that he needs someone if front of him... not so much engaging, but a more stationary target.

I thought it was a bit funny, but sad, when Manny stated that he couldn't hit Mayweather because he wouldn't stay still.....LOL. No crap Manny! What where you expecting??

Imo Pacman's real talent is that he's a come forward counter-puncher. I guess he's fast enough to throw first and still slip/counter, Ricky Hatton was a 6-minute master-class in this regard.

My point is though that Floyd does a whole lot of nothing, his true weapon is his reach allowing him to tag guys with arm shots while he's well out their reach. But when has Floyd ever faught a runner and someone not willing to come to him? Pac's faught JMM x4, Bradley x2 & recently Algieri, (throw in Mosley & Clottey) while his best performances have included Morales, Barrera, Cotto, etc.

Give Floyd a rangy runner like Lara or Trout n see how the fight pans out.

[KBB]

Imo Pacman's real talent is that he's a come forward counter-puncher. I guess he's fast enough to throw first and still slip/counter, Ricky Hatton was a 6-minute master-class in this regard.

My point is though that Floyd does a whole lot of nothing, his true weapon is his reach allowing him to tag guys with arm shots while he's well out their reach. But when has Floyd ever faught a runner and someone not willing to come to him? Pac's faught JMM x4, Bradley x2 & recently Algieri, (throw in Mosley & Clottey) while his best performances have included Morales, Barrera, Cotto, etc.

Give Floyd a rangy runner like Lara or Trout n see how the fight pans out.

The difference is, Floyd knows how to cut off the ring so he won't have to complain why they weren't just standing right in front of him waiting to be hit like Manny did of Mayweather.

[Impractical Poster]

When was the last time you saw Floyd cut off the ring? And against who?

I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just drawing a blank. Early in his career maybe, but recently?

[jamesmcdonnell]

When was the last time you saw Floyd cut off the ring? And against who?

I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just drawing a blank. Early in his career maybe, but recently?

Corralles?

[ClivePatrickLyons]

So what are you trying to say that it just wasn't Floyd who was BORING............

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Simple... Manny could not mount an effective offense against Floyd because Floyd is one of the best defensive fighters in history.

You are obsessed Brut.

All you have to do is look at their body of work. This fight played out like most of Floyd's fights. If people thought it was boring, then they think most of his fights are boring. Manny needs someone to engage him in order to look spectacular. He is one of the best offensive fighters of all time.

Like they say about football... A great offense wins games. A great defense wins championships.

Seems to work well here.

Mayweather boxed brilliantly. It depends on what you like. If you are a fan of the hit and don't get hit aspect of boxing, Mayweather showcased a clinic for you and you loved it. But, if you are a fan of blood and guts, back and forth action, Mayweather is not really really your guy. Just the way it is.

I like a mix of both.

Stop being so sore that people think your beloved Floyd is boring. Most people just prefer a more action, less efficient style.

I LOVE boxing and I LOVE a fighter that style is that of a boxer on your toe's sticken the jab to set up some shot that are fast/sharp/hard
with great balance a fighter that is aware at all time's and knows how important distance is in boxing fighter's like ALI/LEONARD/PEP
just to name a few so please don't include me in your assessment by claiming that I LOVED what panned out the other night because
Mayweather chose the road to victory that he took [because he could have won a fan friendly fight and try to really put on a clinic] run/hold/run/hold/pot shot then wait for the ten second warning then try steal the round and what about all the PHYSICAL advantage's he hold's and the other night he fought a very similar style to the late great Hector Comacho sr when he was labelled a runner back in the 80's/90's
Did anyone else hear someone on the commentary team say they heard Mayweather sr tell Floyd he was Fighting scared well he was spot on.

[Chepppaaa]

So what are you trying to say that it just wasn't Floyd who was BORING............

great, so not only floyd was boring, but also manny, a night to remember DD

[KBB]

So what are you trying to say that it just wasn't Floyd who was BORING............

great, so not only floyd was boring, but also manny, a night to remember DD

Yes, I can't believe you thought he was exciting. Many of his fans over my house watching this bout was screaming at Packy to attack, to do something, to do anything and he simply wasn't. He flurried a little bit but mostly he just followed around moving side to side and taking shots.

If you didn't see that then I'm not sure what fight you were watching but it was totally silent at my house with the majority being MP fans, the only times they cheered was twice once in the 4th and another time when MP had MM on the ropes flurrying. Outside of that, it was crickets from the Pacquiao crowd.

Manny was boring as hell, he was supposed to have the gameplan by Roach, the footspeed, the KO power and he was the guy you all said would put Floyd out on his back but now that it didn't happen the way you envisioned it you are so filled with hate that it clouds your vision into seeing the truth as I've stated exactly what happened in this fight.

Manny got shut down and limited to one of Floyd's easiest opponents ever, many others have done far better.

[Ricky_]

When was the last time you saw Floyd cut off the ring? And against who?

I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just drawing a blank. Early in his career maybe, but recently?

Yup, what a dumb ass Brut really is. He fought DeLaHoya in 2007. He hasn't fought anyone since then that commits to the outside half as much as he does, and if they did, both men would circle each other for 12 rounds. That's why Floyd needs guys to come to him for him to look good. His true talent is shutting down a fight, if there isn't one to shutdown you get a whole lot of nothing. Imagine Bhop was small enough to face Floyd...

[caldo2025]

The OP was a joke and clearly created by a Floyd rump swab. Manny was the only one wanting to exchange...why am i even writing this? Dumb. Anyone dumb enough to make those comments is clearly just trying to be annoying and see what he can drub up for comments. Go away.

[KBB]

The OP was a joke and clearly created by a Floyd rump swab. Manny was the only one wanting to exchange...why am i even writing this? Dumb. Anyone dumb enough to make those comments is clearly just trying to be annoying and see what he can drub up for comments. Go away. .

You're writing this because you intend on doing exactly what Manny is doing; making excuses. This is boxing not brawling, it was up to Packy to cut off the ring and force the exchanges but unfortunately for the little dumb man he doesn't have the intellect on how to cut the ring off properly.

Maidana could probably teach him how to cut off the ring. Cotto could definitely teach him how to cut off the ring.

Do you know what they both have in common? They're both supposedly slower than MP with their footwork but somehow they had the intelligence to cut off the ring against Floyd (at least Chino did in their 1st fight).

Yes, MP was ineffectively boring, he did Nothing, a few flurries and that was it. Floyd made it look easy and you guys are still here crying like little girls and making pathetic excuses while exposing yourselves for how BUTTHURT you really are.

It is truly a sad and fun sight to see.

[KBB]

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/spor ... 520a7.html

Posted: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 8:15 am

By DAVID WEINBERG, Staff Writer

Rather than provide a detailed account of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao megafight, I'll rely on the analysis provided by the Foster's-guzzling boxing fan seated next to me at Borgata Hotel, Casino & Spa's Music Box last Saturday night.

"Floyd beat (him)," the fan said. "He (messed) Manny up." Her boyfriend agreed. So did I.

And just in case you don't remember, I predicted a week ago that Mayweather would dominate the fight, which he did with a dazzling display of boxing skill, defense and ring generalship. It wasn't close, despite Pacquiao's feeble protest and the clueless claims from ESPN host Skip Bayless.

People who accused Mayweather of running weren't paying attention. According to CompuBox statistics, Mayweather landed 148 total punches to Pacquiao's 81 and held an 81-63 edge in power punches.

"This is boxing," Mayweather told ESPN after the fight. "This isn't brawling. It's not a slugfest. It's boxing." And he's better at it than anyone.
Folks who were expecting another version of Hagler-Hearns or even Gatti-Ward III evidently had never watched any of Mayweather's previous 47 fights.

Mayweather did what he always does, which is rely on his quickness, hand speed and savvy to take control of the fight. After the 10th round, it was clear that Pacquiao needed a knockout to win, but the expected rally never happened.

Anyone who shelled out $100 to watch on pay-per-view and was angered or disappointed with the lack of toe-to-toe action, blame Pacquiao for not taking the fight to Mayweather.

And I don't want to hear any excuses about his shoulder injury. Pacquiao, trainer Freddie Roach and promoter Bob Arum have all been around the sport long enough to know you don't show up the night of the fight asking for an injection without ever mentioning any injury to the Nevada Commission.

You want to see an exciting, bloody, action-packed fight that will almost certainly end with someone counting ceiling lights? You have two choices.

If you want to watch in person, buy a ticket to Friday night's Amir Mansour vs. Joey Dawejko heavyweight fight at the 2300 Arena in South Philadelphia. Mansour (21-1, 16 KOs) is 12-1 with 10 knockouts in his last 13 fights. Several of those opponents left the ring on stretchers. Dawejko (14-3-2, 7 KOs) has notched four straight first-round knockouts.

If you don't want to make the trip, Saturday night tune in to HBO for the super-welterweight clash between Canelo Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) and James Kirkland (32-1, 28 KOs) from Houston's Minute Maid Park. Alvarez's only loss was to Mayweather. Local boxing fans may remember Kirkland's last fight in which he punished formerly unbeaten prospect Glen Tapia en route to a sixth-round TKO at Boardwalk Hall's Adrian Phillips Ballroom in Atlantic City.

Speaking of which, it's extremely disappointing that neither fight is being held in Atlantic City. Once regarded as one of the country's premier boxing towns, it's now a ghost town.

There hasn't been a single pro bout held there since Sergey Kovalev-Bernard Hopkins at Boardwalk Hall last Nov. 8, a span of six months.

There's a mid-level card scheduled for May 22 at the Claridge Hotel, but that's it as far as boxing is concerned for 2015.

Don't count on a Mayweather-Pacquiao rematch happening in Atlantic City, Las Vegas or anywhere else. What's the point?

The outcome would be the same. And don't bother watching the replay of last Saturday's fight on HBO or Showtime this week.

Not unless you have plenty of Foster's on hand. Contact David Weinberg: 609-272-7201 [email protected]

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