GGG’s next opponent after Willie Monroe Jr?

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Lemieux-N'dam is only a month away, so I don't think either of them should be ruled out due to having fights scheduled. Perhaps a good offer could tempt the winner of that fight, something which I think would be more likely if N'dam prevails, as he seems to have fewer reasons to be protected given that he's nearly 5 years older than DL and is less of a draw.

It is looking barren though.
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I notice that after I mentioned N'dam-Lemieux you edited your first post to include that Lemieux was stopped by Rubio, but he was only 22 at the time and I think he'd generally be accepted as a credible opponent if he fairly beats N'dam.
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I think he might well fight someone like Les Sherrington next and then more solid opponent at the end of the year/January, possibly the Lemieux/N'Jikam winner. If Monroe doesn't pull the upset of course!

Taking a further look at the rankings on here, could be someone like Heiland, or the 20-0 Polish fighter Maciej Sulecki, instead of Sherrington who may be a little too low down on the pecking order to be accepted as a credible opponent; no disrepect to him.
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I think this thread says all we need to know about Monroe's chances. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Lee is his next opponent.
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GGG next opponent is suppose to be Cotto. If Cotto chooses to fight Alvarez, then he will have to vacate his WBC Belt.
Honestly I feel like for Cotto it would be better to get his a$$ beat by GGG rather than Canelo, because at least he wouldn't disappoint his Puerto Rican fans that he got executed by a Mexican.

If Cotto vacates, then GGG probably will fight Tureano Johnson as a stay busy fight.
Although I heard Daniel Jacobs calling GGG out. If it's real and Haymon is ok with it, then maybe GGG-Jacobs, who knows.
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He could always take a non title fight at or around 168lbs (testing the waters so to speak) shame 'Smigga' is busy with the Ward fight.
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Galvanised Clout wrote:He could always take a non title fight at or around 168lbs (testing the waters so to speak) shame 'Smigga' is busy with the Ward fight.
Jack, Chudinov, Abraham, Chavez would be great targets. I am wondering if one of them would have balls to fight GGG.
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Lemieux vs Njikam winner seems like a good match against Golovkin
Peter Quillin is also good option.
Beat one of these guys and then set up a megafight with Alvarez. I love boxing :box:
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ikorolev wrote:
Galvanised Clout wrote:He could always take a non title fight at or around 168lbs (testing the waters so to speak) shame 'Smigga' is busy with the Ward fight.
Jack, Chudinov, Abraham, Chavez would be great targets. I am wondering if one of them would have balls to fight GGG.
Jack, Chudinov COULD be competitive, but I dread to think what GGG would do to Abraham and Chavez
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One thing GGG has to do is stop signing contracts for his next fight less than a week after his last one.

I understand what Fergusg is saying about GGG not fighting Haymon's guys.

But, I think fights with some in Al's stable CAN be made.

However, it is going to take more negotiation time than he allows in between fights.

I see it happening as a quid pro quo thing, where GGG goes on the PBC against a lesser known Haymon guy, then with a win there you'd have the real test/showdown on HBO against Quillen or Jacobs.
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Galvanised Clout wrote:Jack, Chudinov COULD be competitive, but I dread to think what GGG would do to Abraham and Chavez
Chavez is tailor made for GGG, it would be nice to see him get pancaked by Golovkin.
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TheWigwam wrote:I think he might well fight someone like Les Sherrington next and then more solid opponent at the end of the year/January, possibly the Lemieux/N'Jikam winner. If Monroe doesn't pull the upset of course!

Taking a further look at the rankings on here, could be someone like Heiland, or the 20-0 Polish fighter Maciej Sulecki, instead of Sherrington who may be a little too low down on the pecking order to be accepted as a credible opponent; no disrepect to him.
I doubt that GGG would fight an opponent like Sherrington, but Heiland, whom fergus omitted from his long list, seems like a realistic possibility and he was a rumored front-runner before Monroe was announced as GGG's next opponent.
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The contract he signed was for a "minimum of 4 fights".

Well, Monroe IS the 4th fight.

Stuff can be worked out, especially if HBO is given the "big" fight.
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koolkc107 wrote:One thing GGG has to do is stop signing contracts for his next fight less than a week after his last one.

I understand what Fergusg is saying about GGG not fighting Haymon's guys.

But, I think fights with some in Al's stable CAN be made.

However, it is going to take more negotiation time than he allows in between fights.

I see it happening as a quid pro quo thing, where GGG goes on the PBC against a lesser known Haymon guy, then with a win there you'd have the real test/showdown on HBO against Quillen or Jacobs.
If they can make Floyd vs Pac happen then there is absolutely no excuse(s) for any other fight in this sport to happen ever again!!
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fergusg wrote:
KBB wrote:If they can make Floyd vs Pac happen then there is absolutely no excuse(s) for any other fight in this sport to happen ever again!!
Apart from money.
What makes more sense money-wise than for GGG to face the best in his division?

And what makes more sense for GGG to go one the PBC and get exposed to millions of casual fans who wouldn't see him otherwise?

If folks don't know, they should realize something.

The PBC is being watched by an awful lot of folks who never tune into HBO or ShowTime for a fight.

Just the other day, I was speaking to a co-worker (a non sports fan, nevermind boxing) and she was talking about how she and her husband (a NASCAR fan) watched and were pleasantly surprised.

The PBC is working. It is bring back boxing to the mainstream.

If they keep this up, watching fights will be as normal and usual as tuning into a baseball game.

And that is a good thing for our sport.

Gennady can take advantage of this.
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What HBO has to realize is what Showtime has already reconciled itself to.

The PBC can be a tool to hype it's own fights.

You put good, eliminator style fights on the PBC.

Then you put the showdown fight on cable.

Everybody wins.
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Golovkin-Monroe Jr might turn out to be a bit of a frustrating night for Gennady,I think there's very little chance of Willie pulling off the upset but he is a slippery customer,Golovkin is more than just a crude puncher so I expect him to be able to cut the ring off effectively without being made to look pondorous ah la Mayweather/Alvarez but still it could be something we've not seen GGG have to do before,like struggle to pin Monroe Jr down and made to miss while get countered by meaningless pot shots

I think Monroe's a good fighter and a respectable opponent considering Golovkin's activity but I think him running will play into Golovkin's hands and the champ will catch up with him in the second half of the fight
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Assuming he beats Monroe, I would think Lee,Quillin, or the winner of Lemieux/N'Jikam would be the next target. I don't know a lot about the whole promotional situation though, so I'm not aware of specific obstacles that would be there.

I figure Alvarez will wind up fighting Cotto, should he beat Geale.
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Bobbyptsd wrote:Assuming he beats Monroe, I would think Lee,Quillin, or the winner of Lemieux/N'Jikam would be the next target. I don't know a lot about the whole promotional situation though, so I'm not aware of specific obstacles that would be there.

I figure Alvarez will wind up fighting Cotto, should he beat Geale.
I think Canelo is wanting to fight in September already, so really doubt if he fights Cotto next. Cotto needs to get past Geale too, which is not a lock, imo. I might even go out on a limb to predict Geale wins by split. Trout beat Cotto fairly handily, remember...
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Badhusker wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:Assuming he beats Monroe, I would think Lee,Quillin, or the winner of Lemieux/N'Jikam would be the next target. I don't know a lot about the whole promotional situation though, so I'm not aware of specific obstacles that would be there.

I figure Alvarez will wind up fighting Cotto, should he beat Geale.
I think Canelo is wanting to fight in September already, so really doubt if he fights Cotto next. Cotto needs to get past Geale too, which is not a lock, imo. I might even go out on a limb to predict Geale wins by split. Trout beat Cotto fairly handily, remember...
No it certainly isn't. He's a tough guy who can make things really difficult. But I have to say, I have a weird feeling he won't come out of there with a decision. Call me cynical, but Daniel Geale as "lineal" middleweight champion? Some people are losing a lot of potential money in that scenario.

I'd like to be wrong and that this will just be a well conducted and fairly judged sporting event though, but yeah, if it's close.....
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crusader wrote:
TheWigwam wrote:I think he might well fight someone like Les Sherrington next and then more solid opponent at the end of the year/January, possibly the Lemieux/N'Jikam winner. If Monroe doesn't pull the upset of course!

Taking a further look at the rankings on here, could be someone like Heiland, or the 20-0 Polish fighter Maciej Sulecki, instead of Sherrington who may be a little too low down on the pecking order to be accepted as a credible opponent; no disrepect to him.
I doubt that GGG would fight an opponent like Sherrington, but Heiland, whom fergus omitted from his long list, seems like a realistic possibility and he was a rumored front-runner before Monroe was announced as GGG's next opponent.
Yeah I agree, as soon as I typed 'Les' I thought 'nah probably not', but Heiland wouldn't be an awful match :box:
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Bobbyptsd wrote: No it certainly isn't. He's a tough guy who can make things really difficult. But I have to say, I have a weird feeling he won't come out of there with a decision. Call me cynical, but Daniel Geale as "lineal" middleweight champion? Some people are losing a lot of potential money in that scenario.

I'd like to be wrong and that this will just be a well conducted and fairly judged sporting event though, but yeah, if it's close.....
Geale would need to be a very clear winner to get a decision. He better stop the little guy.

Speaking about a "lineal" middleweight champion, the title has already been compromised by Martinez being half-disabled when fighting Cotto. Everybody sues Pacquiao now, but Martinez clearly deceived the public by saying that his knees were fine.
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ikorolev wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:Geale would need to be a very clear winner to get a decision. He better stop the little guy.

Speaking about a "lineal" middleweight champion, the title has already been compromised by Martinez being half-disabled when fighting Cotto. Everybody sues Pacquiao now, but Martinez clearly deceived the public by saying that his knees were fine.
If Martinez's knees were so shot then why not postpone the fight? Manny just flat out used his as an excuse because he has been fighting that way since 2008 and then soon as he lost then it came out as an excuse.

Both guys just flat out lost the way I see it, Sergio wasn't so busted in his knees when he was winning in the Chavez fight or any other for that matter but soon as Cotto manhandled him like a little boy then he came out with "oh my knees hurt".

Sounds eerily like Manny; "oh my right shoulder hurt".

BULLSH*T!!
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KBB wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:Geale would need to be a very clear winner to get a decision. He better stop the little guy.

Speaking about a "lineal" middleweight champion, the title has already been compromised by Martinez being half-disabled when fighting Cotto. Everybody sues Pacquiao now, but Martinez clearly deceived the public by saying that his knees were fine.
If Martinez's knees were so shot then why not postpone the fight? Manny just flat out used his as an excuse because he has been fighting that way since 2008 and then soon as he lost then it came out as an excuse.

Both guys just flat out lost the way I see it, Sergio wasn't so busted in his knees when he was winning in the Chavez fight or any other for that matter but soon as Cotto manhandled him like a little boy then he came out with "oh my knees hurt".

Sounds eerily like Manny; "oh my right shoulder hurt".

BULLSH*T!!
It was common knowledge for a long time that Martinez had knee problems. Pacquiao's shoulder injury was a revelation after his "fight" with Mayweather. There's a big difference in the two scenarios.
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david1963 wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Geale would need to be a very clear winner to get a decision. He better stop the little guy.

Speaking about a "lineal" middleweight champion, the title has already been compromised by Martinez being half-disabled when fighting Cotto. Everybody sues Pacquiao now, but Martinez clearly deceived the public by saying that his knees were fine.
It was common knowledge for a long time that Martinez had knee problems. Pacquiao's shoulder injury was a revelation after his "fight" with Mayweather. There's a big difference in the two scenarios.
Martinez was saying that surgeries were successful and he is fully ready.

Returning to the "lineal" title, we would have Rubio as a lineal champ if Martinez did his mandatory defense instead of fighting Cotto.
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