British Top 30 P4P October 2015

[Horse]

1. (1.) Kell Brook
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) Amir Khan
4. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
5. (4.) James DeGale
6. (5.) Scott Quigg
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (9.) Lee Selby
9. (10.) Andy Lee (Irish)
10. (11.) Martin Murray

11. (8.) George Groves
12. (12.) Lee Haskins
13. (13.) Ola Afolabi
14. (14.) Ricky Burns
15. (15.) Tony Bellew
16. (16.) Billy Joe Saunders
17. (17.) Liam Walsh
18. (18.) Dereck Chisora
19. (19.) Stuart Hall
20. (20.) Paul Butler

21. (21.) Chris Eubank Jr
22. (22.) Anthony Crolla
23. (RE.) Josh Warrington
24. (RE.) Stephen Smith
25. (23.) Paul Smith
26. (24.) Kevin Mitchell
27. (30.) Anthony Joshua
28. (25.) Callum Smith
29. (26.) Terry Flanagan
30. (27.) Luke Campbell

Out - (28.) Frankie Gavin
Out - (29.) Derry Mathews

[Horse]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[tiny_acres]

Ok I have my popcorn a cold can of Mt.Dew
Let the Horse bashing begin

[Horse]

Ok I have my popcorn a cold can of Mt.Dew
Let the Horse bashing begin

Indeed.

[davie]

29th seems terribly low for Terry Flanagan, especially looking at some of the names in that middle section

No place for Brian Rose or Rocky Fielding?



It will be interesting to see how high a new entry Ovill will be if he wins tomorrow?

[digzee]

Callum Smiths dominant win over Rebrasse is better then anything his brother Paul has ever done he must be higher.

[digzee]

29th seems terribly low for Terry Flanagan, especially looking at some of the names in that middle section

No place for Brian Rose or Rocky Fielding?



It will be interesting to see how high a new entry Ovill will be if he wins tomorrow?

Yeah Flanagan would be top 20 for me.

[Stuarty]

Good list Flanagan too low though and Chisora too high. I wouldn't even have him in the list tbh.

[Boxerbeetle]

Yeah Chisora is shot - how much worse does he need to be before getting moved down? Crolla should definitely be higher than Chisora & Eubank Jr imo.

[Batley18]

Eubank Jr has an interim title. As bollocks as a title like that is, it still sits him above Liam Walsh and Tony Bellew imo.

[Horse]

29th seems terribly low for Terry Flanagan, especially looking at some of the names in that middle section

Yes, the unsatisfying nature of his world title win meant I didn't re-enter him very high after that victory. He'll move a lot higher next month if he beats Magdaleno next week.

No place for Brian Rose or Rocky Fielding?

Fielding is close to a place, but I didn't think the Vera win was quite enough to enter the list the last time he fought.

Rose exchanging wins with Jones in his last two fights isn't enough for a place on the list at the moment. The quality is too high at the bottom of the rankings.

It will be interesting to see how high a new entry Ovill will be if he wins tomorrow?

I'd think he'd at least have to be higher than Afolabi.

[Horse]

Callum Smiths dominant win over Rebrasse is better then anything his brother Paul has ever done he must be higher.

Losing a close fight against Abraham is a lot better than beating Rebrasse.

[expe]

McDonnell too high, Fury shouldn't be above Selby, Butler beat Hall and is somehow below him, Chisora is too high considering his dire performance at the weekend and Flanagan is far too low, he might not have beaten Zepeda in the way he would have liked but beating Ormond should be enough to have him above several of those above him, especially Warrington who shouldn't really be in the top 30 IMO when you look at the fighters below him.

[digzee]

Callum Smiths dominant win over Rebrasse is better then anything his brother Paul has ever done he must be higher.

Losing a close fight against Abraham is a lot better than beating Rebrasse.

In Paul Smiths entire 12 year career he doesn't have 1 win better then Rebrasse surely that says it all, losing to an unmotivated and lazy Abraham is nothing to write home about as Rebrasse or any average Euro level guy could have done that. Good top 10 though.

[Horse]

Good list Flanagan too low though and Chisora too high. I wouldn't even have him in the list tbh.

Chisora has looked bad in the past and then gone on to get decent wins.

Chisora is still a consensus top 15 ranked heavyweight and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[Horse]

Yeah Chisora is shot - how much worse does he need to be before getting moved down? Crolla should definitely be higher than Chisora & Eubank Jr imo.

Yes, I probably should have moved Crolla higher after his draw against Perez.

If he beats Perez in the rematch next month then I will move him a fair bit up the list.

[Horse]

Eubank Jr has an interim title. As bollocks as a title like that is, it still sits him above Liam Walsh and Tony Bellew imo.

The title itself isn't worth very much. The guy he beat for it was okay, but clearly far from world class.

Eubank Jr has a very shallow record by the standards of this list and I don't think that he should be any higher at this point.

[johnswan1]

Paul Smith out. Campbell and AJ too low.

Where will Ovil be on next months list if he wins a world title this weekend?

[Horse]

McDonnell too high, Fury shouldn't be above Selby,

McDonnell has been doing very well recently. I think he deserves his high ranking.

I don't think Selby is as good as most people do.

Butler beat Hall and is somehow below him,

Butler beat Hall very narrowly and then got destroyed by Tete a few months after. Hall did better in his world title fight against Caballero, so I thought he deserved to be higher.

Chisora is too high considering his dire performance at the weekend and Flanagan is far too low, he might not have beaten Zepeda in the way he would have liked but beating Ormond should be enough to have him above several of those above him, especially Warrington who shouldn't really be in the top 30 IMO when you look at the fighters below him.

Ormond was a good win, but it wasn't anything special. It was 8 months ago now and a win like that isn't enough to maintain a place in the rankings for long.

Warrinton is a talented fighter with a decent record. It's very competitive at the bottom of the list, but I don't think he looks out of place.

[Horse]

In Paul Smiths entire 12 year career he doesn't have 1 win better then Rebrasse surely that says it all, losing to an unmotivated and lazy Abraham is nothing to write home about as Rebrasse or any average Euro level guy could have done that.

They might have, but they didn't. Smith did, so he gets the kudos.

Good top 10 though.

[Horse]

Paul Smith out. Campbell and AJ too low.

Campbell and Joshua have only just started fighting opponents that are at domestic level, so I don't think they deserve to be much higher at this point.

They'll probably both be a lot higher in a year's time.

Where will Ovil be on next months list if he wins a world title this weekend?

That depends on his performance, but he'd probably be around about No. 13.

[CMDY]

Good list.

[Horse]

Good list.

[davie]

29th seems terribly low for Terry Flanagan, especially looking at some of the names in that middle section

Yes, the unsatisfying nature of his world title win meant I didn't re-enter him very high after that victory. He'll move a lot higher next month if he beats Magdaleno next week.

Fair enough, but I still feel he merits being above some of the guys who rank higher

No place for Brian Rose or Rocky Fielding?

Fielding is close to a place, but I didn't think the Vera win was quite enough to enter the list the last time he fought.

Rose exchanging wins with Jones in his last two fights isn't enough for a place on the list at the moment. The quality is too high at the bottom of the rankings.

I'd be tempted to have them somewhere in the lower places of the list, but I neither are stand out candidate.

It will be interesting to see how high a new entry Ovill will be if he wins tomorrow?

I'd think he'd at least have to be higher than Afolabi.

Agreed, Afolabi at 13 and Bellew at 15 would have to drop a slot to accomodate him

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Derry Matthews should be in front of Josh Warrington IMO.