Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 19:33
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Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
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Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 19:46
Tyson Fury?
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 20:43
Fury should be honoured really? what's Frampton done? probably because he is big in Belfast and he's Barry's mate ;;-)
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 20:48
There was uproar when Tyson Fury got nominated for BBC Sports Personality of the Year; the backlash for an MBE would be absolutely hilarious.Horse wrote:Tyson Fury?
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 20:56
Boxerbeetle wrote:There was uproar when Tyson Fury got nominated for BBC Sports Personality of the Year; the backlash for an MBE would be absolutely hilarious.Horse wrote:Tyson Fury?
And Fury still came 4th
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 05:41
You joke but there's truth in there. Frampton gets in because of his contacts and background. I'd like to think Fury would tell them what to do with an "honour" bestowed by the ruling class to "lesser" people for "doing well"Rexob wrote:Fury should be honoured really? what's Frampton done? probably because he is big in Belfast and he's Barry's mate ;;-)
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 05:55
I don't want to criticise Frampton in any way because someone else in authority will have recommended him for the award, but how can Carl and Gary Nevilles sister get awards like this when there are hundreds of volunteers running youth clubs, boxing clubs , scouts etc for decades with no financial reward and they never get recognised. I could go on all day about this. Why should anyone who gets paid to do a job get awarded for doing that job?
Do bricklayers get an OBE for 30 years service to bricklaying?
I start a rant about this every year and the wife batters me, but I just think it's ridiculous.
Do bricklayers get an OBE for 30 years service to bricklaying?
I start a rant about this every year and the wife batters me, but I just think it's ridiculous.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 06:20
Don't let it bother you. The whole honours thing is just a nice reminder of the class divide. Massively outdated.dalcumly wrote:I don't want to criticise Frampton in any way because someone else in authority will have recommended him for the award, but how can Carl and Gary Nevilles sister get awards like this when there are hundreds of volunteers running youth clubs, boxing clubs , scouts etc for decades with no financial reward and they never get recognised. I could go on all day about this. Why should anyone who gets paid to do a job get awarded for doing that job?
Do bricklayers get an OBE for 30 years service to bricklaying?
I start a rant about this every year and the wife batters me, but I just think it's ridiculous.
When I learn of people refusing any honour offered to them by the establishment, my respect for them shoots up.
Of course it isn't always about honouring lesser people, the toffs love giving their own pals an honour or 3 whenever the chance arises. Check out Jacqueline Gold, daughter of David Gold, a man who just happens to donate huge amounts of money to the Tories!
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 07:23
It's the pc awards that infuriate me.
Francis Lee and Denis Law need to wait til pensioner age for their stellar football careers as well as their charity work to be rightly recognized whereas a couple of cloggers from the world of womens football get gongs thrown at them. Jacqui Oatley, a shrieking commentator, with little insight or even understanding of sport was also honoured.
The world's fucked.
Francis Lee and Denis Law need to wait til pensioner age for their stellar football careers as well as their charity work to be rightly recognized whereas a couple of cloggers from the world of womens football get gongs thrown at them. Jacqui Oatley, a shrieking commentator, with little insight or even understanding of sport was also honoured.
The world's fucked.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 08:34
I started a thread a couple of years ago asking why Hoy,Holmes etc all got Knighthoods/Dame for doing well at 1 Olympic games yet Joshua,Campbell,Adams dont
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 08:45
Because the likes of Hoy and Holmes would have had sponsors flashing their cash towards the establishment in return for an honour.handsofstone wrote:I started a thread a couple of years ago asking why Hoy,Holmes etc all got Knighthoods/Dame for doing well at 1 Olympic games yet Joshua,Campbell,Adams dont
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 08:45
personally i don't think anyone should be awarded for doing a job they get paid for,charity work, unpaid work, helping the community that kind of thing deserves an award.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 08:52
To be fair, the idea of having a professional boxer being introduced into the ring as 'Sir' is a bit ridiculous.banjo wrote:Because the likes of Hoy and Holmes would have had sponsors flashing their cash towards the establishment in return for an honour.handsofstone wrote:I started a thread a couple of years ago asking why Hoy,Holmes etc all got Knighthoods/Dame for doing well at 1 Olympic games yet Joshua,Campbell,Adams dont
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 09:04
The idea of "honouring" them mid way through their careers is a bit ridiculous too, kind of like when a sportsman brings out an autobiography at the age of 21.Boxerbeetle wrote:To be fair, the idea of having a professional boxer being introduced into the ring as 'Sir' is a bit ridiculous.banjo wrote:Because the likes of Hoy and Holmes would have had sponsors flashing their cash towards the establishment in return for an honour.handsofstone wrote:I started a thread a couple of years ago asking why Hoy,Holmes etc all got Knighthoods/Dame for doing well at 1 Olympic games yet Joshua,Campbell,Adams dont
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 09:10
Because they hate the working class, I hope he was offered something and told them to fcuk off! Absolute bs these awards and whenever I see some idiot, in his Sunday best, with his mum ,grinning from ear to ear after recieving one, I loose respect for them.handsofstone wrote:I started a thread a couple of years ago asking why Hoy,Holmes etc all got Knighthoods/Dame for doing well at 1 Olympic games yet Joshua,Campbell,Adams dont
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 09:15
Plenty of working class people have been awarded them.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 09:17
Just shows what a load of bollocks MBEs are, especially at the sportsman/celebrity level.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 10:35
I agree athletes still competing shouldnt be awarded a knighthood
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 10:36
Why not?handsofstone wrote:I agree athletes still competing shouldnt be awarded a knighthood
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 10:46
Athletes only compete for a short space of time,let them finish their careers 1st then decide if its worthy of such honours,its like giving Fergie a knighthood after winning the European cup with Aberdeen or Connery after playing Bond for 1st timeHorse wrote:Why not?handsofstone wrote:I agree athletes still competing shouldnt be awarded a knighthood
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 10:54
If they've already established themselves as great then I don't see the point in waiting for them to retire.handsofstone wrote:Athletes only compete for a short space of time,let them finish their careers 1st then decide if its worthy of such honours,its like giving Fergie a knighthood after winning the European cup with Aberdeen or Connery after playing Bond for 1st time
Alex Ferguson was given a knighthood before he retired and it didn't seem that daft.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 11:01
I think the jury is out as to whether Frampton is a great fighter, I think it's come very quickly and agree with handsofstone - what if Quigg knocks him out, will they give Quigg a peerage?Horse wrote:If they've already established themselves as great then I don't see the point in waiting for them to retire.handsofstone wrote:Athletes only compete for a short space of time,let them finish their careers 1st then decide if its worthy of such honours,its like giving Fergie a knighthood after winning the European cup with Aberdeen or Connery after playing Bond for 1st time
Alex Ferguson was given a knighthood before he retired and it didn't seem that daft.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 11:05
Just give him an MBE as well.palooka wrote:I think the jury is out as to whether Frampton is a great fighter, I think it's come very quickly and agree with handsofstone - what if Quigg knocks him out, will they give Quigg a peerage?
I think all of our world champions deserve an MBE.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 11:25
Horse wrote:Just give him an MBE as well.palooka wrote:I think the jury is out as to whether Frampton is a great fighter, I think it's come very quickly and agree with handsofstone - what if Quigg knocks him out, will they give Quigg a peerage?
I think all of our world champions deserve an MBE.
Re: Carl Frampton awarded an MBE in New Year Honours list.
Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 11:35
Knighthoods for sporting achievements are ludicrous.