John Wilkinson Self promotion

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I have a 40 bouts amateur w 24 l 15 d 1
w/11 KO/Rsc/ret. Established weight: 156lb Light middleweight; Tournaments: 17 won 7; 2Nd 5x; Out-place 5x & boxed the tournament champion in four of those in brackets. (Three of those l 15 were Rsc/ or ret.)//USAREUR & New England's were my largest tournaments. My "strongest shadow" was Dan Schommer. I fought at least nine Ne champions thru out my pro & amateur.
Pro: I would say I have a "good/bad" record. One I'm natural welterweight. I was there for four years Oct to Oct '88 - '92. If you did a "back-que" record on my first eight opp., the w-l-d gonna come to 94-4-2 (Opp at their career height). I have never seen any "great" with numbers close to that (though, Muhammad Ali AND Joe Louis have "very nice" stats themselves..)//those first eight I faced/ three (3) of them come into a top 4 world rating (WBC WBA IBF WBO). Lines (by seq.) sm* m m sm jm m lh m *record isn't truly accurate.
I've started a comeback and have been trying to find a match now for 2 1/2 years****(I've been in the GYM quite a bit). [dob: 07/06/56][pob: Falmouth, Ma. Residence: New Britain, CT. BoxRec id - 1855] ****147/except if vs "Luis" will carry a contract to 168 n.p!
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1-12-0 as a Pro?
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N2 Shape wrote:1-12-0 as a Pro?

Yup! 01 John Scully 02/03 Tony Daley 04 Otis Grant (Pan Am silver) 05 Jose Torres 06/11 Sean Fitzgerald 07 Fred (Freddie) Suero 08 Frank Savannah (National Golden Gloves champ) 09 Terry Crawley 10 Tom (Tommy) Galipeau 12/13 Radik Chanyshev >>>the amateur designates ea. were contested for the prior middleweight settings (165lb)<<<

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Bring yourself to Auckland, New Zealand got fights for you here champ :TU:
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N2 Shape wrote:Bring yourself to Auckland, New Zealand got fights for you here champ :TU:
Dang N-2 you sound like a REAL FRIEND! : )
You read my detail(?)////My plan is to go Kansas to SCOUT a possible TRAINER. I only want four or three comeback matches. I have a complication here with a "Reverse LAW" situation.
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GodOfBoxing wrote:
N2 Shape wrote:Bring yourself to Auckland, New Zealand got fights for you here champ :TU:
Dang N-2 you sound like a REAL FRIEND! : )
You read my detail(?)////My plan is to go Kansas to SCOUT a possible TRAINER. I only want four or three comeback matches. I have a complication here with a "Reverse LAW" situation.
i don't get it. you're in your 50's with 1-12 pro record. yeah you have a bunch of
good names on your record and you only got stopped twice so you were probably
sturdy above your natural weight, but what would the 3 or 4 fights accomplish?
you wouldn't get paid much even if you could get licensed, which might require
an mri and other extra exams, and your trainer and other expenses probably
wouldn't be be free either. you could go down to tijuana and fight...
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sucracristo wrote:
GodOfBoxing wrote:
N2 Shape wrote:Bring yourself to Auckland, New Zealand got fights for you here champ :TU:
Dang N-2 you sound like a REAL FRIEND! : )
You read my detail(?)////My plan is to go Kansas to SCOUT a possible TRAINER. I only want four or three comeback matches. I have a complication here with a "Reverse LAW" situation.
i don't get it. you're in your 50's with 1-12 pro record. yeah you have a bunch of
good names on your record and you only got stopped twice so you were probably
sturdy above your natural weight, but what would the 3 or 4 fights accomplish?
you wouldn't get paid much even if you could get licensed, which might require
an mri and other extra exams, and your trainer and other expenses probably
wouldn't be be free either. you could go down to tijuana and fight...
sucracristo, OH I KNOW/wouldn't be about the $. And the TESTING, YES it is always! I been trying 2 1/2 years to get A -match in. Thank you for your detail observation!
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Unless my math is wrong, you'll be 60 in a few months? For your own health, please stop trying to fight professionally. Sparring/training is cool to stay in shape, but there is nowhere that should give you a license. I'm just being honest. You were 1-12 in your prime, and I'm sure decades later you haven't improved on your skill set.
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armageto wrote:Unless my math is wrong, you'll be 60 in a few months? For your own health, please stop trying to fight professionally. Sparring/training is cool to stay in shape, but there is nowhere that should give you a license. I'm just being honest. You were 1-12 in your prime, and I'm sure decades later you haven't improved on your skill set.
Armageto.. your are right on the AGE! But I FEEL GOOD for my AGE! And.. I don't know about the flat & stuff I'm not sure! Couple of people older than me when they fought. One likely scenario I can see for myself would be to do a 4r "real fight" with Charlie Z. //hold him to a real contract. Make him put a retainer down so he doesn't "FOUL OUT" w/o a pentalty. And I see some people I can FIGHT. 147lbs my natural weight. Easy.
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I knew it was Bill :lol:
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boxingya wrote:I knew it was Bill :lol:
Yeah. The Bus Exclusion case situation. & that HAS NOT SETTLED/YET!
BoxRec took that profile and deleted all content. You have SOME Individuals in here who -really- have more authority than they have the responsibility to exercise.
We like BoxRec even though a couple of areas they COULD "HIP- UP"... [World wide results USE WHOLE OF NAME; how ever do they rate Floyd Patterson so highly a.t?][How is it Billy Backus EX welterweight champ rated above my FRIEND Marlon Starling?]
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Don't take this the wrong way Bill- however as others have alluded to, trying to revive a pro career at nearly 60 years of age is a wise move. You could end up seriously hurt.
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boxingya wrote:Don't take this the wrong way Bill- however as others have alluded to, trying to revive a pro career at nearly 60 years of age is a wise move. You could end up seriously hurt.
You ever go thru the first six pages of the BoxRec 147lb? IF YOU WITNESS ME WORKING OUT SOME TIMES YOU MIGHT REALLY SEE IT BETTER FOR MY SIde!
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Well good luck fighting Thurman, Porter, Brook, etc, lol.
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boxingya wrote:Well good luck fighting Thurman, Porter, Brook, etc, lol.
Jose Mendoza of Mexico a good one for me to BOX. 147. Mexico native. 9(5)-9(5)-0 record guy ISN'T SOME "bum"/you look at his inside. Started 7-0-0.
I need ten weeks ONCE THE CONTRACT "agreed to". I don't BOX in Casino locations. Frank Cicero ("Big Frank") had talked to me business before & one time had me lined up to go to SPAIN to compete [I been there before R&R] but after couple days he called me back and cancel for me because of that. Told me a little story. I was in MAINE at the time and had just started some work outs.
If it is in USA/some stuff I NEED TO KNOW. And it should be in US or Canada (I've fought twice in Canada once at each coast). No one knows what is good for the Sport like I do. That is what I NEED TO PROTECT!
I'll go look at his record some more make sure I have his name right and stuff. I think it's "respectable" opp. I would know exactly what I have to do. Boxingya! FRIEND! : )
[you know about this "case" I have? "Illegal censorship by a Public Utility"? I'm looking to hide a bow & arrow now....PISS ME OFF!][My Opponent I'm gonna go thru everything with a serious attitude and be "polite"/that's the end of it! I KNOW/the OPP wish to win it as much as I do]
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I've been offered two (2) matches from highly *calibrated pros both bit SR like me....but younger some. This came one maybe four years ago and the other one within past one year. The second "offer" was only in a hint- hint and welould be a 90% chances of a loss. I think...I way "brush" that. I already have actually. Give it like a three month prep. Admin In Order. < Very important.....
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I've been offered two (2) matches from highly *calibrated pros both bit SR like me....but younger some. This came one maybe four years ago and the other one within past one year. The second "offer" was only in a hint- hint and welould be a 90% chances of a loss. I think...I way "brush" that. I already have actually. Give it like a three month prep. Admin In Order. < Very important.....
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I already have a record. I think it'll be CUTE..adding to my numbers. Though I am very, very, VERY concerned to "WIN" only! ("Ha ha"!)// I've lost 16 of my last 17 [& the "win" is practically meaningless coming on dq. though...4 r fight and it-WAS 2-0 in rounds (4-4pro who went in against Larry Barnes soon coming #1 (147) in his next start three weeks later....)] but if that looked at closely//pretty much they were situations I wasn't expected to win any of them. Always matched very well. So...their are things to look at in any record that are just as important/ even of "greater importance" than the statistical. But....unless you know what a name means, that gonna be amiss to you.
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I understand 1-12 guys can sometimes be a hell of a lot better than guys 15-0. It's all who you fought and other factors like the judges and experience at the time.

But if you're 50 or 60, maybe one "comeback," fight I understand just to say you did it, but do you really want to start a second career at this stage? This ain't singing.
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If your 50 or 60, why dont you write proper :bag:
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Tony1244 wrote:I understand 1-12 guys can sometimes be a hell of a lot better than guys 15-0. It's all who you fought and other factors like the judges and experience at the time.

But if you're 50 or 60, maybe one "comeback," fight I understand just to say you did it, but do you really want to start a second career at this stage? This ain't singing.
Tony that is cute what you say! I have a good 53 battles behind me.. SO..I know it "ain't singing"!ha ha! Four or three fights. Hopefully can notch "wins". Yup..sometimes (depends)/a 15-0 person builds up on weak line. My record their isn't any "super-stars" but.. it's quite respectable. (I one time sat-with the fame boxing man from England. What is his name? He had Honeyghan before.. Anyway, told him the people I had fought in my "few" fights (pro) & he really *notice!
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:bag:
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Yup. Looking to get that first match in. Then I'll be thinking about the second one.
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ImranSarwar wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:I understand 1-12 guys can sometimes be a hell of a lot better than guys 15-0. It's all who you fought and other factors like the judges and experience at the time.

But if you're 50 or 60, maybe one "comeback," fight I understand just to say you did it, but do you really want to start a second career at this stage? This ain't singing.
Tony that is cute what you say! I have a good 53 battles behind me.. SO..I know it "ain't singing"!ha ha! Four or three fights. Hopefully can notch "wins". Yup..sometimes (depends)/a 15-0 person builds up on weak line. My record their isn't any "super-stars" but.. it's quite respectable. (I one time sat-with the fame boxing man from England. What is his name? He had Honeyghan before.. Anyway, told him the people I had fought in my "few" fights (pro) & he really *notice!

John, don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for anyone who ever climbed into a ring or an octagon. I'm comparatively a huge wimp, I've only done some friendly sparring.

My points are that you are much better than your record and regarding singing, if Bob Dylan's voice is shot or Billy Joel is too drunk, they're not getting hit in the head.
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John, don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for anyone who ever climbed into a ring or an octagon. I'm comparatively a huge wimp, I've only done some friendly sparring.

My points are that you are much better than your record and regarding singing, if Bob Dylan's voice is shot or Billy Joel is too drunk, they're not getting hit in the head.
Well Thank you, Tony (invite you to our small circle at The Jerry Quarry Foundation ~LETTERS~)\\\\Boxing it is always going to be a "SCARE" and bit "chancy". I've had PERSONS --DIE-- ALL AROUND ME/in this SPORT! I "KNOW"! but, like the LOTTERY YOU CAN'tWIN IF YOU DON'T PLAY! I'm a "player" in that respect! ("smile")
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